Is ANYONE in favor of Partial Birth Abortions?

Normal abortions don't bother me, but this shit is crazy. They kill the baby when the baby is fully develped. It could survive on its own out of the womb.

They basically wait until the woman goes into labor, pull the fully grown baby out feet first until it's totally out except its head. They then jab a metal rod through its spine and into its brain, killing it.

I mean, this is a fully mature baby FFS. How is that NOT murder?

Originally posted by long pig
Normal abortions don't bother me, but this shit is crazy. They kill the baby when the baby is fully develped. It could survive on its own out of the womb.

They basically wait until the woman goes into labor, pull the fully grown baby out feet first until it's totally out except its head. They then jab a metal rod through its spine and into its brain, killing it.

I mean, this is a fully mature baby FFS. How is that NOT murder?

A clump of cells does not justify as a 'living being' thus murder doesn't apply. THAT on the other-hand IS blatant murder, why aren't any of the crazy christians arguing against this instead of pre-developed abortion ?

Not an expert on the subject, but I've heard that they are sometimes medically necessary

Originally posted by Strangelove
Not an expert on the subject, but I've heard that they are sometimes medically necessary

What THE F*CK justifies THAT !

Originally posted by grey fox
A clump of cells does not justify as a 'living being' thus murder doesn't apply.

Sigh, we are all a "clump of cells." That argument never goes anywhere and does nothing in the end but devalue the meaning of life.

Originally posted by Strangelove
Not an expert on the subject, but I've heard that they are sometimes medically necessary

... To save the mother

Originally posted by grey fox
What THE F*CK justifies THAT !

He didn't say justify. In the cases he is talking about the case if often either the mother will die attempting to have the baby, or both are very unlikely to come out alive. These scenarios are more prevalent than one might think.

Originally posted by long pig
Normal abortions don't bother me, but this shit is crazy. They kill the baby when the baby is fully develped. It could survive on its own out of the womb.

They basically wait until the woman goes into labor, pull the fully grown baby out feet first until it's totally out except its head. They then jab a metal rod through its spine and into its brain, killing it.

I mean, this is a fully mature baby FFS. How is that NOT murder?

And to be clear this is normally not the process. This method is not the one I even know about. I didn't even look at the pictures. That one is pretty.... yea.

Partial abortions often occur before the delivery and full development. Too lazy to find pics but someone not so lazy will do it

Originally posted by grey fox
What THE F*CK justifies THAT !

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
As far as I'm aware post-viability abortion is only legal under the condition of medical necessity.

Yeah but that method in particular is never necessary though... Can someone show another example before full development?

Originally posted by grey fox
A clump of cells does not justify as a 'living being' thus murder doesn't apply. THAT on the other-hand IS blatant murder, why aren't any of the crazy christians arguing against this instead of pre-developed abortion ?

That being said...

I masturbate to pictures of partial-birth abortions. It's hot.

😑 ^

this is just wrong. - referring to Partial-birth abortion

Abortion in itself is murder IMHO, and this one is worse.

As long as it only happens with medical necessity's then it's fine with me. Otherwise the woman should just shut up, the baby can take care of itself now, she should have just had an abortion sooner if she wanted to remove it.

Originally posted by chithappens
... To save the mother

He didn't say justify. In the cases he is talking about the case if often either the mother will die attempting to have the baby, or both are very unlikely to come out alive. These scenarios are more prevalent than one might think.

Looking at that diagram it seems the baby would be near enough to being fully out...

Muriding the baby at that stage wouldn't help the mother in any way.

Why not just take the baby out and you know.. let it live?

A doctor would NEVER kill a baby.

And this monopoly on language is abominable. The proper terminology is "late term abortion". Partial-birth causes the exact knee-jerk reaction that the anti-choice crowd wants.

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Is anyone in favour of late-term abortion?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

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Is anyone in favour of late-term abortion?

Only if having the child would create a large chance that the mother would die, I don't see how that's possible, but I'm not a doctor so I'm sure there are situations where it's either killing the baby or killing the mother.

Originally posted by Boris
Looking at that diagram it seems the baby would be near enough to being fully out...

Muriding the baby at that stage wouldn't help the mother in any way.

Why not just take the baby out and you know.. let it live?

A doctor would NEVER kill a baby.

Thats my view point EXACTLY.

I've never been in favor of that. At that late stage a baby feels serious pain. Only in very rare circumstances should if be used.

thas not abortion, thas murder. and one that provides NO USE, whatsoever. if the baby was still in the womb and killed BEFORE it got out, then maybe, u cud justify it as bing medically necessary as a natural delivery is too dangerous. howevern once the whole body is ALREADY OUT, i see no way in which just pulling the head out will kill the mother{either way the head is pulled out anyway, alive or dead}.

on the other hand, i do believe that abortion is okay as long as the baby has not developed any basic human nervous system/brain, as then there is no conciounce in the baby{this is probably before three months and definately can be done a little while after fertilisation when you are nothing more than stem cell}. thas alos why im probably pro most stem cell research.

For clarification purposes...

This procedure is performed predominantly for late second trimester abortions and is used in a minority of those cases. Current evidence supports that fetal nociception has yet to develop fully.

And, no. Fetal CNS development does not reach the point of what would be defined as consciousness by the third month of pregnancy.