Thanos with heart of universe vs darkseid with ALE

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I made a mistake on the name. sue me. Thanos only absorbed one universe. The story isn't cannon to the 616 universe. But it's a copy of it. So it's part of the 616 multiverse. There is a 616 multiverse. I.E. earth x universe, the what if universes, the xombie universe, are all alternate universes in the 616 multiverse.

So, based on your logic, the 616 multiverse holds every universe in Marvel?
Hmm... the numbers aren't really needed then, are they?
Multiverse, because why would the multiverse be based on one universe? Even have it's multiverse based on the name of one universe?
Really makes no sense.

Plus, this other universe, is supposed to be based on 616, an exact copy, but it still contradicts the mere fact that if it isn't canon, then practically no story in Marvel is canon now...

A fact you so eagerly ignore.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
I know, which has nothing to do with anything.

So, based on your logic, the 616 multiverse holds every universe in Marvel?
Hmm... the numbers aren't really needed then, are they?
Multiverse, because why would the multiverse be based on one universe? Even have it's multiverse based on the name of one universe?
Really makes no sense.

Plus, this other universe, is supposed to be based on 616, an exact copy, but it still contradicts the mere fact that if it isn't canon, then practically no story in Marvel is canon now...

A fact you so eagerly ignore.

And yet i never said the story wasn't canon. A fact you so eagerly ignore. i said it wasn't the 616 universe and it wasn't in continuity. Try to read with understanding.

Originally posted by quanchi112
i dont care what guy says if its referenced in thanos series what else can u say. u come up with some weirdo theries in ur mind u idiot.

I stated a fact. Disagree, if u like.

Andy has recently left Marvel

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And yet i never said the story wasn't canon. A fact you so eagerly ignore. i said it wasn't the 616 universe and it wasn't in continuity. Try to read with understanding.

And yet, it did happen in 616, because continuity comics address it, and as I'll repeat, these comics also make newer stories of Marvel non-canon, if The End wasn't in continuity.

I hardly need understanding, since you have completely been oblivious to how obvious the point is.
So, let me simplify it for you.
If The End = non-canon (not in continuity), then:

Thanos mini = non-canon (not in continuity).
Annihilation = non-canon (not in continuity).
Cival War = non-canon (not in continuity).
Capt's death = non-canon (not in continuity).
Heralds of Galactus = non-canon (not in continuity).
Fantastic Four (current) = non-canon (not in continuity).
Etc.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Everything. Lucifer is God's will. That ain't going no where. Any aspect of God isn't going anywhere. So the question is moot.

So Mxy lied when he said he destroyed everything, because he didn't destroy at least 5 beings. GEB, Presence, Michael, Lucifer, and Spectre.

Why did he run from the Ultimator if he had the power to destroy him like nothing?

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
And yet, I already addressed this a while ago...
Actually, if the story didn't happen in 616, it isn't canon to the context of a thread.
So, I am arguing about this, in case you need to actually know what the argument is about.

And yet, it did happen in 616, because continuity comics address it, and as I'll repeat, these comics also make newer stories of Marvel non-canon, if The End wasn't in continuity.

I hardly need understanding, since you have completely been oblivious to how obvious the point is.
So, let me simplify it for you.
If The End = non-canon (not in continuity), then:

Thanos mini = non-canon (not in continuity).
Annihilation = non-canon (not in continuity).
Cival War = non-canon (not in continuity).
Capt's death = non-canon (not in continuity).
Heralds of Galactus = non-canon (not in continuity).
Fantastic Four (current) = non-canon (not in continuity).
Etc.

I agree. There is absolutely zero evidence to support that Thanos in one universe is somehow mentally or spiritually linked to other Thanosi in other universes. There's also nothing supporting Thanos in The End letting all other Thanosi remember the events of The End.

The only possible for the 616 (canon) Thanos and Warlock to remember The End is if it actually happened to them.

Thanos even states that he resurrected the universe with no memory of what had happened with the hope of everyone thinking he was gone. But Warlock knew otherwise.

that all sounds great, except . . . marvel itself refutes the fact. 😬 there is an entire thread dedicated to this topic in the comicbook forum. marvel says that some similar event, that was never chronicaled, happened in 616.

i stand by the idea that thanos did NOT destroy the multiverse. there are a number of issues that THAT assumption raises that cannot be easily dealt with. others disagree. 🙂

for thanos to remember it means it happened. i dont know how people disagree with that. that opends the door to questions a lot of other canoned things inother comics. if he remmebers it it happend. that simple, to me anyways.

Originally posted by quanchi112
for thanos to remember it means it happened. i dont know how people disagree with that. that opends the door to questions a lot of other canoned things inother comics. if he remmebers it it happend. that simple, to me anyways.

LMAO. All that aruing you did and the liar you called me and now you have to eat your words. Punk.

Originally posted by leonidas
that all sounds great, except . . . marvel itself refutes the fact. 😬 there is an entire thread dedicated to this topic in the comicbook forum. marvel says that some similar event, that was never chronicaled, happened in 616.

i stand by the idea that thanos did NOT destroy the multiverse. there are a number of issues that THAT assumption raises that cannot be easily dealt with. others disagree. 🙂

It's basically the same as World's Funniest in DC being or not being canon. DC clearly states that Elseworlds aren't canon. However, going by what Nvr said, since characters in Hypertime now exist in canon DC, that makes WF canon.

Same situation here. Marvel said The End wasn't canon. However, canon Thanos and Warlock recall the incident happening.

So, either both Elseworlds and The End aren't canon or they both are.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
It's basically the same as World's Funniest in DC being or not being canon. DC clearly states that Elseworlds aren't canon. However, going by what Nvr said, since characters in Hypertime now exist in canon DC, that makes WF canon.

Same situation here. Marvel said The End wasn't canon. However, canon Thanos and Warlock recall the incident happening.

So, either both Elseworlds and The End aren't canon or they both are.

Except DC said Elseworld's weren't cannon BEFORE the invention of Hypertime. They then cannonized every Else world into an actual story with Hypertime AND IC.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LMAO. All that aruing you did and the liar you called me and now you have to eat your words. Punk.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Except DC said Elseworld's weren't cannon BEFORE the invention of Hypertime. They then cannonized every Else world into an actual story with Hypertime AND IC.

So they retconned Elseworlds. Marvel doesn't have the right to retcon The End?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
So they retconned Elseworlds. Marvel doesn't have the right to retcon The End?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
who the hell knows.

We know you don't.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
We know for sure it wasn't the 616.

Bull shit

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
the writer says that it's a story of what it would be like IF it were the end. it's not the 616 universe.

Always with the bull shit ey Nvr.

I was the one who found and posted that article,

I've been through this with you before, so you're nothing but a bucket of bull shit

Jim said, that at FIRST the story was going to be non-canon,

because Jim was going to destroy ALL of MARVEL, for good,

not just a Universe or Multiverse but ALL of it.

So he was given an option to place the story in a Twin Marvel Reality that represents everything Marvel is, but wasn't really because it was a copy of Marvel.

Jim did NOT LIKE this idea, and Jim wanted his story the END to be CANON,

so Jim decided to destroy and recreate the Prime Multiverse instead,

this way keeping the story CANON.

Originally posted by Mr Master
We know you don't.

Bull shit

Always with the bull shit ey Nvr.

I was the one who found and posted that article,

I've been through this with you before, so you're nothing but a bucket of bull shit

Jim said, that at FIRST the story was going to be non-canon,

because Jim was going to destroy ALL of MARVEL, for good,

not just a Universe or Multiverse but ALL of it.

So he was given an option to place the story in a Twin Marvel Reality that represents everything Marvel is, but wasn't really because it was a copy of Marvel.

Jim did NOT LIKE this idea, and Jim wanted his story the END to be CANON,

so Jim decided to destroy and recreate the Prime Multiverse instead,

this way keeping the story CANON.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's not the 616. It may be cannon to Thanos and the LT.

but it's not the 616.

it seems thanos may have some connection to his other selves. who knows.

But it wasn't the 616.

If that isn't 616, why is Thanos reminiscing about his time with the Cosmic Cube?

If that isn't 616, why is Thanos reminiscing about his time with the Infinity Gauntlet?

If that isn't 616, why is Thanos reminiscing about his time when he died and became Death's servant?

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4321 concerns Akhenaten's origin in specific,

HE came from Reality 4321, not the Arc itself.

In issue #2 there are cut scenes of AK's beginnings taking place and how he ended up working for the Celestial Order, that story takes place in another time, another place, hence Reality 4321.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/akhenaton.htm

This is further proven in the actual HOTI and Celestial Order Bios they provide,

now the entire story revolves around the THOTI,

why wasn't it designated to Reality 4321?

In fact,

4321 is not even mentioned.

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/celestialorderthanos.htm#Heart

Originally posted by Mr Master
If that isn't 616, why is Thanos reminiscing about his time with the Cosmic Cube?

If that isn't 616, why is Thanos reminiscing about his time with the Infinity Gauntlet?

If that isn't 616, why is Thanos reminiscing about his time when he died and became Death's servant?

Not that I think it is, but that's a possible explanation.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Because it's a divergent timeline?

Not that I think it is, but that's a possible explanation.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Not a wierdo theory.

The series was not the 616.

Sorry you hate that so much and you can't get that thru your head.

maybe people should do thier research before they put thier feet in thier mouths.

What a hypocrite,

dude, I have no respect for you. (you've forced me to feel this way)

You posted over ten posts claiming the End was not in 616,

you even had the odacity to give explanations, (LIES that is)

bringing up what Starlin said, and you don't even know what the article entailed.

I don't believe one word that's typed under your screen name. 🙂