Thanos with heart of universe vs darkseid with ALE

Originally posted by celestialdemon
So then we have to question if the ALE would even work on all abstracts in general.

But I don't think Lucifer is an abstract. The Endless are abstract. Lucifer seems like he's just an extremely powerful angel (and one of the most powerful characters in DC).

Originally posted by quanchi112
ok u adreesed the batman thing. but what about how he doesnt crush shazam. u only answer that u want to. u dodge questions. spectre regardless is not as powerful as living tribunal. thanos crushed living tribunal.

And yet the Spectre has the ability to merge with Everything and be extremely more powerful than The LT. it's generally known that the Spectre is as powerful as he needs to be.

Originally posted by quanchi112
all nver has is speculation, he has never seen the ale used but we have seen the heart used and it was damn impressive. i have never witnessed more power displayed on comics. while the ale only works on living beings, but not all we dont know if it would owrk on all. we dont know if it works on abstracts either. he doesnt know anything. he knows though what thanos has done with the heart. that is fact whereas he has his own twsited sort of logic.

You've never witnessed a more impressive display of power? LMAO. Mxy displayed more on panel in World's Funnest. Erasing the Entire DC and even other multiverses and then setting them back. Thanos erased one universe. The beyonder also was more impressive Than thanos with the heart.

spectre can be maniuplated by ouside beings. he was tricked into destroying all magic users. living tribunal isnt manipultaed by other beings like spectre can be. again ur dc fanboyism comes out. shazam gave him a run for his money. imagine living tribunal battling odin. i cant can u. cuz hes s o powerful there would be no confrontation. meanwhile u have dcs powerhouse being hostless and cluelss as it gets manipultaed. i remember when asmodel merged in there and used apectre as he saw fit. face it its easy to trick spectre but it doesnt happen to living tribunal.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You've never witnessed a more impressive display of power? LMAO. Mxy displayed more on panel in World's Funnest. Erasing the Entire DC and even other multiverses and then setting them back. Thanos erased one universe. The beyonder also was more impressive Than thanos with the heart.

didnt the beyonder get owned by victor von doom. wasnt beyonder retconed as weaker than tribunal, didnt thanos beat everyone at once.

Originally posted by quanchi112
spectre can be maniuplated by ouside beings. he was tricked into destroying all magic users. living tribunal isnt manipultaed by other beings like spectre can be. again ur dc fanboyism comes out. shazam gave him a run for his money. imagine living tribunal battling odin. i cant can u. cuz hes s o powerful there would be no confrontation. meanwhile u have dcs powerhouse being hostless and cluelss as it gets manipultaed. i remember when asmodel merged in there and used apectre as he saw fit. face it its easy to trick spectre but it doesnt happen to living tribunal.

Let me break it down to you lil boy. IT was a hostless Spectre that fought Shazam. And Shazam>>Odin. Shazam is an abstract being. Odin is not. He's a skyfather.

The living Tribunal has been tricked by Reed Richards, A human. And The LT got pwned by a man made machine.

The LT also couldn't even kill Korvak. Stop being an ass. The Spectre and the LT are equals. They both have high showings and low showings.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You've never witnessed a more impressive display of power? LMAO. Mxy displayed more on panel in World's Funnest. Erasing the Entire DC and even other multiverses and then setting them back. Thanos erased one universe. The beyonder also was more impressive Than thanos with the heart.

About that, that's the other question you never answered. Since Mxy said he erased everything except for himself and Batmite in World's Funniest, does that mean he erased Michael, Lucifer, Spectre, Elaine, GEB, and the Presence?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
About that, that's the other question you never answered. Since Mxy said he erased everything except for himself and Batmite in World's Funniest, does that mean he erased Michael, Lucifer, Spectre, Elaine, GEB, and the Presence?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
That's why the issue isnt taken seriously, one Multiverse btw.

Actually the infinite earths is one multiverse. he went to the kingdome as well as the dcu animated. More than one multiverse. It's still cannon. Taken seriously or not. Every time mxy shows up, it's full of hijinks. Now stop with your non dc knowlege ass.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
About that, that's the other question you never answered. Since Mxy said he erased everything except for himself and Batmite in World's Funniest, does that mean he erased Michael, Lucifer, Spectre, Elaine, GEB, and the Presence?

Everything. Lucifer is God's will. That ain't going no where. Any aspect of God isn't going anywhere. So the question is moot.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Micheal IS the power. And Lucifer IS the will.

I'm interested to see the exact depiction. Where was it stated by the way.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Let me break it down to you lil boy. IT was a hostless Spectre that fought Shazam. And Shazam>>Odin. Shazam is an abstract being. Odin is not. He's a skyfather.

The living Tribunal has been tricked by Reed Richards, A human. And The LT got pwned by a man made machine.

The LT also couldn't even kill Korvak. Stop being an ass. The Spectre and the LT are equals. They both have high showings and low showings.

Spectre struggles in every other fight he is in. I'm not impressed.

LT getting shot by Reed is (with 20 years worth or preparation, though) is about as valid as Spectre getting batkicked. Also, LT NEVER attacked Korvac himself. If he did, Korvac would have seized to exist the very same moment.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You are truly pathetic and silly. The Spectre alone can beat everyone in DC and Michael and Lucifer both have already proven to be his superior. ANd mike and lucifer together are superior to thanos with the heart. Thanos didn't have God's power and he certainly didn't have God's omnicience and will, which is basically what makes God, God.

Originally posted by breeze85
Spectre struggles in every other fight he is in. I'm not impressed.

LT getting shot by Reed is (with 20 years worth or preparation, though) is about as valid as Spectre getting batkicked. Also, LT NEVER attacked Korvac himself. If he did, Korvac would have seized to exist the very same moment.

Should have could have would have. What ever the LT didn't manage to kill Korvak. So much for that.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Let me break it down to you lil boy. IT was a hostless Spectre that fought Shazam. And Shazam>>Odin. Shazam is an abstract being. Odin is not. He's a skyfather.

The living Tribunal has been tricked by Reed Richards, A human. And The LT got pwned by a man made machine.

The LT also couldn't even kill Korvak. Stop being an ass. The Spectre and the LT are equals. They both have high showings and low showings.

MC2

What If

I have the scans as well. LT was in She Hulk #12. Scans also

In regards to Richards. Look up his win/loss record. Does Richards safeguard the ommiverse? He's a human with vast intelligence.

Living Tribunal destroys Michael Korvac

Other forums disagree about LT and Spectre. Its simple, Marvel has TOAA/LT. DC has Presence/Spectre

Originally posted by guy222
MC2

What If

I have the scans as well. LT was in She Hulk #12. Scans also

In regards to Richards. Look up his win/loss record. Does Richards safeguard the ommiverse? He's a human with vast intelligence.

Living Tribunal destroys Michael Korvac

Other forums disagree about LT and Spectre. Its simple, Marvel has TOAA/LT. DC has Presence/Spectre

Correction

DC has Presence/Elaine,Lucifer,Michael,Source, The Word, The Spectre

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Correction

DC has Presence/Elaine,Lucifer,Michael,Source, The Word, The Spectre

🙂

I know my DC

Of ur list, who's the most powerful

Originally posted by guy222
🙂

I know my DC

Of ur list, who's the most powerful

Originally posted by quanchi112
thats nvers problem when u ask him for his order of dc heavyweights, he never answers anyone. he just rattles off numbers of beings that could beat thanos. when he said spectre and living tribunal are equa.l did u catch that nver. u slipped up. by ur own admonition u think thanos is more powerful than spectre than. he beat tribunal who ccording to u is euqal to spectre. uve been duped by ur own twisted version of lies. now give an order and answer guys question.

Actually, it's plainly obvious that Spectre is more powerful than LT, at least potentially. Spectre at full power is basically LT's peer. Not really much to dispute. But here's where he sets himself apart from the tribunal. Spectre can tap more than his own power. Spectre can tap the full power of the presence via the logoz. Which means, that Spectre can exceed LT in power.

Which means, Spectre can stop the HOTU. 😎