What Will Go Through Your Mind When You See Jesus?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No, you have not gotten it right. In the beginning God was Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Here in the year 2007 God is still Father, Son, Holy Spirit. In the future and throughout eternity God will be Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

Jesus has [B]always been the Son of God (i.e. the uncreated, second Person in the triune God).

The Holy Spirit has always been God (i.e. the uncreated, third Person in the triune God). They all think in harmony and agreement because they are one God (remember my Board example? One Board, more than one member in that Board, separate and distinct, but yet in agreement about how the corporation should be run. Again, this is just an illustration, don't become fixated on it and miss the point of the illustration which is to expound the triune nature of God and how They function).

Main Entry: 2 triune
Function: adjective
Date: 1632
: three in one: a: of or relating to the Trinity <the triune God> b: consisting of three parts, members, or aspects

The triune God is one God, consisting of more than one member in that trinity, separate an distinct Persons, yet in agreement about how the universe and everything in it should be run. [/B]

yawn

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I'm just defending my good buddy Jesusisalive...after all the **** he gives me, I owe him atleast that much

😱 Now stop that... Oh! my virgin eyes. 😱 😆

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
😱 Now stop that... Oh! my virgin eyes. 😱 😆

droolio

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I'm just defending my good buddy Jesusisalive...after all the **** he gives me, I owe him atleast that much

Thanks but don't expect me to defend you (if you are not correct about a topic that may be under discussion in the future).

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Thanks but don't expect me to defend you (if you are not correct about a topic that may be under discussion in the future).

I don't think he was really defending you. He's a back door man in that way. 😂

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No, you have not gotten it right. In the beginning God was Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Here in the year 2007 God is [b]still Father, Son, Holy Spirit. In the future and throughout eternity God will be Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

Jesus has always been the Son of God (i.e. the uncreated, second Person in the triune God).

The Holy Spirit has always been God (i.e. the uncreated, third Person in the triune God). They all think in harmony and agreement because they are one God (remember my Board example? One Board, more than one member in that Board, separate and distinct, but yet in agreement about how the corporation should be run. Again, this is just an illustration, don't become fixated on it and miss the point of the illustration which is to expound the triune nature of God and how They function).

Main Entry: 2 triune
Function: adjective
Date: 1632
: three in one: a: of or relating to the Trinity <the triune God> b: consisting of three parts, members, or aspects

The triune God is one God, consisting of more than one member in that trinity, separate an distinct Persons, yet in agreement about how the universe and everything in it should be run. [/B]

You really need to leave that board analogy because it doesn’t even fit to what you are trying to say because a board of directors is made up of individuals that think and act differently and from what you are saying the trinity all think, feel and act the same. So is one more powerful than the other?

God's a Quintesson?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Thanks but don't expect me to defend you (if you are not correct about a topic that may be under discussion in the future).

Why didn't you call me back last night ? cry

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Why didn't you call me back last night ? cry

Because he doesn't like sloppy seconds?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[COLOR=darkblue]The Holy Spirit has [B]always been God (i.e. the uncreated, third Person in the triune God). They all think in harmony and agreement because they are [[/B]

There's several passages in the Bible where Jesus would essentially be speaking in the 3rd person if he, God and the Spirit are one entity. Sounds a little odd to me, didn't Napoleon speak in the 3rd person as well?

I think Jesus was probably quoting OT scripture. Can you find the verses you are talking about?

Originally posted by debbiejo
I think Jesus was probably quoting OT scripture. Can you find the verses you are talking about?

Luke 23:34

When he asks his "father" (aka God, aka himself) to forgive those who would condemn him... I can look for more, I don't remember them off the top of my head.

Originally posted by Devil King
He's explaining, poorly, how the three are one but distinct. Yeah, we all get that. But why would Jesus shrug off the responsability of forgiving the people who crucified him, unless it wasn't his place to do so?

How in the world can you construe Jesus' action on the cross as shrugging responsibility? Jesus has forgiven sins on more than one occasion:

Luke 5:19-24
And when they could not find how they might bring him in, because of the crowd, they went up on the housetop and let him down with his bed through the tiling into the midst before Jesus . When He saw their faith, He said to him, “Man, your sins are forgiven you.” And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, “Who is this who speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins but God alone?” But when Jesus perceived their thoughts, He answered and said to them, “Why are you reasoning in your hearts? Which is easier, to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven you,’ or to say, ‘Rise up and walk’? But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins”—He said to the man who was paralyzed, “I say to you, arise, take up your bed, and go to your house.”

Luke 7:48-49
Then He said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.” And those who sat at the table with Him began to say to themselves, “Who is this who even forgives sins?”

The Bible does not expound every single facet about every situation in all instances, but here is what I believe concerning why Jesus asked His Father to forgive those who crucified Him instead of simply saying, "I forgive you all," personally. Jesus asking His Father to forgive those who treated Him with so much reproach and indignity is the epitome of unselfishness and love. Jesus has always been unselfish and giving (teaching in the synagogues, helping the hurting, healing the sick and diseased, delivering the demon-possessed, feeding the hungry, and raising the dead). Jesus selflessness culminated on the cross. The love of Jesus for humanity is so stark that its impression virtually emerges from the pages of Scripture and travels 2,000 years into the present to make its abode in the heart of all willing hearts. Jesus’ attention was always on others, even during His suffering on the cross. In the midst of Jesus' suffering He was thinking about the well-being of the barbarians who humiliated Him, lied on Him, and impaled Him to the cross (what would have been going through your mind if a group of people had done that to you Devil King?).

Jesus is Love in human flesh, the fact that Jesus Christ had the thoughtfulness and mindset to think about anything or anyone other than Himself, His intense agony, and His excruciating pain is a miracle in itself considering all of the events that led up to His crucifixion. Jesus hadn't eaten anything since the night that He was arrested. Jesus had been beaten beyond recognition (literally). Jesus had been tortured, mocked, ridiculed, buffeted, scourged with a flagrum (i.e. a cat-o'-nine-tails),

(This is a picture of a flagrum. Some flagrums had pieces of bone or other sharp objects attached to the end of the lash)

deprived of sleep, rest, food and not to mention the fact that Jesus had lost a lot of blood. Jesus was so badly beaten and weakened both mentally and physically from His ordeal that for Him to have the mindfulness and compassion to pity people who didn't pity Him (and who couldn't care less), to pray for them, and to ask His Father to forgive them nearly renders me speechless. I don't know about you Devil King but when I am sick or in any kind of pain that consider serious I am so preoccupied with my discomfort that I cannot think about someone else's problems. It is not because I do not love other people it is simply because I am so engrossed in my pain that I cannot focus on anything else at that time. Yet Jesus was in more pain than I have ever been in (in my life). In addition, Jesus' agony was compounded by the mental anguish of being mocked, ridiculed, and humiliated by being impaled naked to a cross by 8 inch nails in front of everyone that followed, believed in Him, cared for Him and loved Him (how do you imagine you would feel in that situation Devil King?). The trauma of becoming the sin of the world (i.e. the suffering object of the Father's wrath against sin in our place), and thus separated from His Father (a situation that Jesus had never experienced before). Jesus’ spiritual, mental, and physical distress that befell Jesus was more than has befallen any person, and yet despite all of Jesus' trauma He still had others on His mind. But what is so inexplicable is that Jesus did not just have those who loved Him on His mind: Jesus lovingly thought about those who had treated Him with absolute hatred and contempt. Instead of having a heart of anger towards those sadistic torturers who hated Him without cause, Jesus had a heart overflowing with kindness and love. It was out of this heart pervaded with love and compassion for his executioners that Jesus petitioned to His Father to forgive those who had subjected His only, innocent Son to barbarous cruelty and brutality.

I laughed at passion of the christ, will Jesus forgive me?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

(This is a picture of a flagrum. Some flagrums had pieces of bone or other sharp objects attached to the end of the lash)

Psh they used that on Jesus? Looks like daycare to me.

Originally posted by ThePittman
If they all think, act, feel and do everything the same then they are not separate but the same.
X = 1
Y = 1
Z = 1
Then X,Y and Z are all 1.

You really need to leave that board analogy because it doesn’t even fit to what you are trying to say because a board of directors is made up of individuals that think and act differently and from what you are saying the trinity all think, feel and act the same. So is one more powerful than the other?

I didn't say that They think, act, feel, and do everything the same (be careful not to put words in my mouth). I said that the Father, Son Jesus, and Holy Spirit are in harmony and agreement (there's a difference).

For example, let's say that you, me, and Devil King are hungry but we want different cuisines. Let's say that you crave Oriental or Greek cuisine. I will go for American, Mexican, or Italian cuisine, and Devil King wants Filipino or Indian cuisine. As you can see from the illustration, we do not think the same. In conclusion, we all end up agreeing on Mexican cuisine. The fact that we agreed to eat Mexican food does not mean that we think, act, feel, and do everything the same, it just means that we are in agreement about what to eat. The Father, Son Jesus, and Holy Spirit are in agreement about their love for humanity and their desire to redeem us (i.e. buy us back from the clutches of sin and its eternal consequences with the precious Blood of Christ) so that we can have eternal life.

Originally posted by Boris
I laughed at passion of the christ, will Jesus forgive me?

Do you want Jesus to forgive you?

Well, no not really, dead men can't do much.

Just wondering.

Will Satan forgive me?

Originally posted by Robtard
There's several passages in the Bible where Jesus would essentially be speaking in the 3rd person if he, God and the Spirit are one entity. Sounds a little odd to me, didn't Napoleon speak in the 3rd person as well?

God is not one entity (haven't you understood anything that I have explained?). God is triune (three Persons equally divine or equally in that God class if you would).