What Will Go Through Your Mind When You See Jesus?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
When you say:

are you serious or joking? 😐

I am definitely not joking; therefore I must be serious (that's the only other alternative). Yes, I meant every word.

Originally posted by Versyn Gaul
JesusIsAlive is a perfect example of being brought up in a church; a product of Brainwashing. Don't be too hard on him. He is spewing the same old tired Church rhetoric we have all heard over and over, And he thinks he is revealing something. Its not his fault.

First of all, you don't know where I was brought up (it certainly was not in a church). Second, you claim that I am a product of brainwashing (whatever that means), as if you are not. You have been brainwashed by your parents, teachers, news media, and society. Do you believe in the theory of evolution Versyn Gaul? If so then you have been brainwashed. Do you believe that you descended from an ape? Then you have been brainwashed. Do you believe that you are a product of random, chance occurrence? Then you have been brainwashed. Do you believe that the life spontaneously generated from non-living substances? Then you have been brainwashed. Do you realize that you have been brainwashed? No. Question: if this earth is a product of chance then is you brain also a product of chance? Then that presupposes that your thoughts are also a product of chance. Question: why do things "need" to live? Isn't this the premise of natural selection, that the most fit organism beats out the less fit organism and then passes on its superior genes to its posterity? So why do organisms need to survive in the first place? What is the reason why an organism has this need? Furthermore, if there is no God (I am presuming that you are atheist until you let me know otherwise) then there is no right or wrong because there are no absolutes right? So then how do you explain conscience? How do you explain why every single human being on the planet has a conscience if there is no God and no right and wrong? Who says that murder is wrong? Who says that stealing is wrong if there are no absolutes? I thought the only law that mattered was the law of survival of the fittest? So then If I am more fit than you to survive then shouldn't I be able to take whatever you own by any means necessary? If there are no absolutes then why is crime wrong?

Why does every single circumstance vitally essential to support life on this planet exist in precise amounts? Everything that is needed for life to thrive (both in the plant kingdom, animal kingdom, insect kingdom, and in tems of human beings) exists in the proper balance. You believe that all of this happenstance just occurred without design? There are nine vital systems in the human body that are all necessary for the human body to function optimally. If you just remove one of those complicated systems the human body becomes impaired and/or handicapped. Yet you believe that those nine systems are a product of random, chance occurrence? The human body is so complicated that it takes an individual four years of college, three years of medical school, and two years on residency just to be able to treat it. But here is the kicker: you don't get to treat the entire body because it is so complicated that even after nine long years, and hours of study, homework, exams, you are only qualified to specialize in one area of that human body. Yet, this is the same human body that you believe just happened, on its own, without any purpose or design? Why do you think that doctors have to specialize in the medical field? Doctors must specialize in the human body because it is so complicated, there is no way that they can ever no how all of it works, and how to treat it. Even General Practitioners must undergo rigorous education and training (four years undergraduate school, four years of medical school, three more years of specialized medical residency training in Family Medicine, plus a written examination periodically to remain Board-certified, and three hundred hours of continuing medical education within the prior six years is mandatory just to be eligible to take the exam.)

Yet you believe that this complicated organism just came into being without an intelligent Designer? You probably own that the personal computer with all of its complication had to have a designer because it is so complex right? So then explain to me why you abandon all logic, common sense, and reason with respect to the human body and conclude that it did not need an intelligent Designer? The human brain just by itself is exceedingly more complicated than a computer (thousands of neuroscientists have admitted that even with all our technology that there is still much more to learn about the brain.) In fact, there is more that they do not know about the brain than what they do know about the brain. Computers are not even capable of thought, they simply do what they are programmed to do. Yet your brain thinks independent of any computer program, you don't need any hard rive, software, video card, sound card, mouse, monitor, printer, scanner, or keyboard to think, imagine, dream, invent, rationalize, express compassion, love, kindness, mercy, and reason. These characteristics are extremely more advanced than anything that a personal computer can do. Complicated human organisms created every single advance, complex, technological device and machine that exists on this earth and yet you believe that we have no intelligent Designer? Since when is a thing that has been created more intelligent than the one who created it?

Originally posted by Versyn Gaul
But like your quote implies, BELIEF. You do not know. So how can You shout this from the mountain tops as if it were fact. By definition of BELIEF, You DO NOT KNOW. You are not wrong , You are not right. Do not condemn the millions who do not believe as You do. Christianity is the only religion that has an Eternal Hell. All others have penalty for sin and a time served in a "Hell" but all eventually are forgiven. AS I believe, that makes your God the most evil. Just my opinion , but i am nobody.

I have the Bible, the evidence around me that supports the Biblical origin of life, and my own common sense. Based on all of this, I know for a fact that God exists.

I haven't condemned anyone I have simply refuted and debunked Robtard's comments.

Christianity is not a religion, Christianity is a Man.

First, God did not make Hell for you, God made Hell for the devil and his angels. Second God provided a way for you to keep from going to Hell. So if you end up there don't blame God, blame your own foolishness. God did all of this for you an yet you conclude that He is evil? Your conclusion is rank asininity.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
"Their little universe is very young, and its god is still a child. But it is too soon to judge them; when WE return in the Last Days, We will consider what should be saved."

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LOL, man oh man, it must be nice living in that world of warped reality eh JIA?!?!

SO how do you justify someone who believes in GOD AND not the biblical origin of life ( ie evolution)

I see evolution as a product of God, the will of God,.............. and MY OWN COMMON SENCE , tells me this possible.

Dude, christianity is a religion that is supposed to follow the teachings of Christ................. but then again you people say that the only thing important about Jesus is that he died for our sins and NOT HIS TEACHINGS

So christianity is essentially about the death of a man? ...... wait I thought you said Christ was not man, but God? Which one is it? I am clear on what Christ is/was............ it looks like you are NOT.

So why do you quote from the bible that doesn't have Christ being quoted all the time? If Christianity is a man, then why bother with allllll those quotes you come here day after day with, when it has nothing to do with Christ?????? GET your facts RIGHT nah man.

Because it's Paulianity, not Christianity they worship.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I didn't say that They think, act, feel, and do everything the same (be careful not to put words in my mouth). I said that [B]the Father, Son Jesus, and Holy Spirit are in harmony and agreement (there's a difference).

For example, let's say that you, me, and Devil King are hungry but we want different cuisines. Let's say that you crave Oriental or Greek cuisine. I will go for American, Mexican, or Italian cuisine, and Devil King wants Filipino or Indian cuisine. As you can see from the illustration, we do not think the same. In conclusion, we all end up agreeing on Mexican cuisine. The fact that we agreed to eat Mexican food does not mean that we think, act, feel, and do everything the same, it just means that we are in agreement about what to eat. The Father, Son Jesus, and Holy Spirit are in agreement about their love for humanity and their desire to redeem us (i.e. buy us back from the clutches of sin and its eternal consequences with the precious Blood of Christ) so that we can have eternal life. [/B]

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I have the Bible, the evidence around me that supports the Biblical origin of life, and my own common sense. Based on all of this, I know for a fact that God exists.

I haven't condemned anyone I have simply refuted and debunked Robtard's comments.

Christianity is not a religion, Christianity is a Man.

First, God did not make Hell for you, God made Hell for the devil and his angels. Second God provided a way for you to keep from going to Hell. So if you end up there don't blame God, blame your own foolishness. God did all of this for you an yet you conclude that He is evil? Your conclusion is rank asininity.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I am definitely not joking; therefore I must be serious (that's the only other alternative). Yes, I meant every word.

Then you are delusional.

so jesusIsalive.....who says the Bible is Gods word? just you....the Bible says itself that its Gods word?

its just a matter of believing in something..thats all, theres no proof, the bible is obviously written by people, theres no material evidence or reality that god inspired any scripture or that he even excists. If i had the patience and a little skill in book writing, anyone or I could easily write our own little bible and sell it to people in a poor country who have not seen the bible and say its the word of God....which ofc would be false

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I am definitely not joking; therefore I must be serious (that's the only other alternative). Yes, I meant every word.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
No God is three Persons.

One God (each Person is in the God-class).

Who are the Born Again Boyz?

God-Class? LOLOLOLO!

The Born Again Boyz are Bornies, Born again Christans.

Originally posted by Boris
God-Class? LOLOLOLO!

The Born Again Boyz are Bornies, Born again Christans.

You mean "Hahaha, lol, yeah."

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
How in the world can you construe Jesus' action on the cross as shrugging responsibility? Jesus has forgiven sins [B]on more than one occasion: [/B]

Well, if they're all the same guy, then he doesn't need pops to forgive them, but he leaves it to him. Also, he doesn't seem to agree with the plan god has in store for him, since he asks himself why he's has forsaken himself. Sounds to me like there was one dissenting opinion on that particular decision made the board of directors.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Luke 5:19-24
And when they could not find how they might bring him in, because of the crowd, they went up on the housetop and let him down with his bed through the tiling into the midst before [COLOR=blue]Jesus . When He saw their faith, He said to him, “Man, your sins are forgiven you.” And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, “Who is this who speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins but God alone?” But when Jesus perceived their thoughts, He answered and said to them, “Why are you reasoning in your hearts? Which is easier, to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven you,’ or to say, ‘Rise up and walk’? But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins”—He said to the man who was paralyzed, “I say to you, arise, take up your bed, and go to your house.”

Luke 7:48-49
Then He said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.” And those who sat at the table with Him began to say to themselves, “Who is this who even forgives sins?” [/COLOR] [/B]

That's a lot of fun!

But pointing out to me how he had forgiven people all the time doesn't add much to the conversation, as that would be my point from the beginning. Thanks though.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The Bible does not expound every single facet about every situation in all instances, but here is what [B]I believe concerning why Jesus asked His Father to forgive those who crucified Him instead of simply saying, "I forgive you all," personally. Jesus asking His Father to forgive those who treated Him with so much reproach and indignity is the epitome of unselfishness and love. Jesus has always been unselfish and giving (teaching in the synagogues, helping the hurting, healing the sick and diseased, delivering the demon-possessed, feeding the hungry, and raising the dead). Jesus selflessness culminated on the cross. The love of Jesus for humanity is so stark that its impression virtually emerges from the pages of Scripture and travels 2,000 years into the present to make its abode in the heart of all willing hearts. Jesus’ attention was always on others, even during His suffering on the cross. In the midst of Jesus' suffering He was thinking about the well-being of the barbarians who humiliated Him, lied on Him, and impaled Him to the cross (what would have been going through your mind if a group of people had done that to you Devil King?).

Jesus is Love in human flesh, the fact that Jesus Christ had the thoughtfulness and mindset to think about anything or anyone other than Himself, His intense agony, and His excruciating pain is a miracle in itself considering all of the events that led up to His crucifixion. Jesus hadn't eaten anything since the night that He was arrested. Jesus had been beaten beyond recognition (literally). Jesus had been tortured, mocked, ridiculed, buffeted, scourged with a flagrum (i.e. a cat-o'-nine-tails), [/B]

You pollute the conversation with what YOU BELIEVE. Either approach this discussion from a legitimate perspective, or don't bother.

Now that you have taken the conversation from one end of it's possible spectrum, all the way to the opposite side (which is telling us about Jesus' suffering) where the original argument has been so far dilluted by your own distraction techniques.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
(This is a picture of a flagrum. Some flagrums had pieces of bone or other sharp objects attached to the end of the lash)

deprived of sleep, rest, food and not to mention the fact that Jesus had lost a lot of blood. Jesus was so badly beaten and weakened both mentally and physically from His ordeal that for Him to have the [b]mindfulness and compassion to pity people who didn't pity Him (and who couldn't care less), to pray for them, and to ask His Father to forgive them nearly renders me speechless. I don't know about you Devil King but when I am sick or in any kind of pain that consider serious I am so preoccupied with my discomfort that I cannot think about someone else's problems. It is not because I do not love other people it is simply because I am so engrossed in my pain that I cannot focus on anything else at that time. Yet Jesus was in more pain than I have ever been in (in my life). In addition, Jesus' agony was compounded by the mental anguish of being mocked, ridiculed, and humiliated by being impaled naked to a cross by 8 inch nails in front of everyone that followed, believed in Him, cared for Him and loved Him (how do you imagine you would feel in that situation Devil King?). The trauma of becoming the sin of the world (i.e. the suffering object of the Father's wrath against sin in our place), and thus separated from His Father (a situation that Jesus had never experienced before). Jesus’ spiritual, mental, and physical distress that befell Jesus was more than has befallen any person, and yet despite all of Jesus' trauma He still had others on His mind. But what is so inexplicable is that Jesus did not just have those who loved Him on His mind: Jesus lovingly thought about those who had treated Him with absolute hatred and contempt. Instead of having a heart of anger towards those sadistic torturers who hated Him without cause, Jesus had a heart overflowing with kindness and love. It was out of this heart pervaded with love and compassion for his executioners that Jesus petitioned to His Father to forgive those who had subjected His only, innocent Son to barbarous cruelty and brutality. [/B]

See, pointing out the sunday school story to us, ad nauseum, isn't much of an argument. Yeah, I saw the Jesus snuff film you call the 'Passion of the Christ'. And guess what? I still don't care what Jesus went through. Does that make sense? Sorry, I bet it sucked. But it doesn't have much to do with me.

You keep playing the "extreme sacrifice" card when it comes to the crucifixion and being god's only,beloved,cherished,well-rounded, handsome, blue-eyed,baby boy. HE's FU*KING GOD! GROW UP! You do god the greatest disservice by treating him like the spoilt, sentimental infant you make him out to be.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I am definitely not joking; therefore I must be serious (that's the only other alternative). Yes, I meant every word.

Originally posted by Devil King
Well, if they're all the same guy, then he doesn't need pops to forgive them, but he leaves it to him. Also, he doesn't seem to agree with the plan god has in store for him, since he asks himself why he's has forsaken himself. Sounds to me like there was one dissenting opinion on that particular decision made the board of directors.

That's a lot of fun!

But pointing out to me how he had forgiven people all the time doesn't add much to the conversation, as that would be my point from the beginning. Thanks though.

You pollute the conversation with what [b]YOU BELIEVE. Either approach this discussion from a legitimate perspective, or don't bother.

Now that you have taken the conversation from one end of it's possible spectrum, all the way to the opposite side (which is telling us about Jesus' suffering) where the original argument has been so far dilluted by your own distraction techniques.

See, pointing out the sunday school story to us, ad nauseum, isn't much of an argument. Yeah, I saw the Jesus snuff film you call the 'Passion of the Christ'. And guess what? I still don't care what Jesus went through. Does that make sense? Sorry, I bet it sucked. But it doesn't have much to do with me.

You keep playing the "extreme sacrifice" card when it comes to the crucifixion and being god's only,beloved,cherished,well-rounded, handsome, blue-eyed,baby boy. HE's FU*KING GOD! GROW UP! You do god the greatest disservice by treating him like the spoilt, sentimental infant you make him out to be. [/B]

Let me guess... He will not know what you are talking about. 😆

Why don't we all just put JIA on ignore ? Just for a lil while...n see what happens 😈

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Why don't we all just put JIA on ignore ? Just for a lil while...n see what happens 😈

He would just get a new sock. 😉

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
This is not relevant to the thread.

The thread isn't even relevant to the thread.

Edit: Double post. Pay it no mind.