Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
God is not one entity (haven't you understood anything that I have explained?). God is triune (three Persons equally divine or equally in that God class if you would).
So God is three people?
Who are the three Gods?
I thought the Born Again Boyz were a monotheistic religion?
Originally posted by Robtard
He is correct though; it boils down to faith, as it is factually impossible to prove that Jesus was/is indeed God made flesh.
It is no different than the faith that you have in evolution (actually it takes less faith to believe in the existence of God than it does to believe that this universe and all of its seeming coincidental benefits, laws, and other complicated systems just happen to make sense and complement one another, to seemingly know that we were coming, to be conducive to and to support all of the millions of organisims. There just isn't this amount of happenstance except in fairy tales. Belief in evolution is like believing that a mixed up Rubix cube just suddenly solved itself without any cause or deliberate purpose and for no reason. Robtard, the emperor of evolution has no clothes (tell me what this means to you).
Originally posted by Burning thought
😂 if theres such a place as heaven theres bound to be thousands of mangy, rottenised believers from ancients times going along the streetseww heaven and hell sound just about as bad as eachother to me, eternal life itself makes me 😘 , what could you possibly do for eternity....as soon as you try and have some good old sex god will give you a slap over the head, at least in hell its madness and sin left right and center, and you get all those sinful porn girls
Your misconceptions are very warped and convoluted, are you Stephen King?
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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
When you use the word delusional to describe me are you serious or joking?
When you say:
According to the Bible, I am no longer classified as a sinner. I am classified as righteous. Why? Well, I have humbled myself in prayer and asked Jesus Christ to save me (a wretched sinner) from all of my sins. The moment that I did this God declared me righteous. He gave me credit for righteousness because my faith is in His Son Who is righteous, not in myself or in my own rigteousness (because apart from Christ I am not righteous even though I do good works). Righteousness is a state that God declares you once you confess Jesus Christ as your Lord, and stop being your own lord. I am no longer lord of my life. Jesus is Lord of my life now. Hence, God has looked upon my humility and faith and declared me righteous. Righteousness comes from faith in Jesus Christ, not from doing rigteous acts per se. This is why so many people are so self-righteous and prideful. They think that rigteousness comes from being nice, and doing good deeds. That is why so many people can't understand how a good person (who is not trusting in Jesus Christ for salvation from their sins) can end up in Hell. Our righteousness or rigteous acts apart from faith in Christ are like filthy rags. We don't get credit for them until we make Jesus the Lord of our lives. Besides, our good works don't get us into Heaven, they simply the basis of any rewards that we have coming to us once we get to Heaven. The foundation of our salvation and entrance into Heaven is simply this: our faith in Jesus Christ apart from any good works. Now, if you have faith in Jesus Christ you should be careful to maintain good works, but not to stay saved or to get into Heaven. You should be careful to maintain good works for reward sake, but mainly so that people can benefit from your good work and then glorify God.
are you serious or joking? 😐
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It is no different than the faith that You have in evolution (actually it takes less faith to believe in the existence of God than it does to believe that this universe and all of its seeming coincidental benefits, laws, and other complicated systems just happen to make sense and complement one another, to seemingly know that we were coming, to be conducive to and to support all of the millions of organisims. There just isn't this amount of happenstance except in fairy tales. Belief in evolution is like believing that a mixed up Rubix cube just suddenly solved itself without any cause or deliberate purpose and for no reason. Robtard, the emperor of evolution has no clothes (tell me what this means to You).
But like your quote implies, BELIEF. You do not know. So how can You shout this from the mountain tops as if it were fact. By definition of BELIEF, You DO NOT KNOW. You are not wrong , You are not right. Do not condemn the millions who do not believe as You do. Christianity is the only religion that has an Eternal Hell. All others have penalty for sin and a time served in a "Hell" but all eventually are forgiven. AS I believe, that makes your God the most evil. Just my opinion , but i am nobody.
Originally posted by debbiejo
They don't think in harmony. Why did Jesus say "If possible take this cup from me?" He was questioning or asking the Father.
Yes they do think in harmony and agreement. Jesus did not say "if possible take this cup from me." Here is a record of what Jesus said
Matthew 26:39
He went a little farther and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, “O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as You will.” Again, a second time, He went away and prayed, saying, “O My Father, if this cup cannot pass away from Me unless I drink it, Your will be done.”
Mark 14:36
And He said, “Abba, Father, all things [COLOR=purple]are possible for You. Take[/color] this cup away from Me; nevertheless, not what I will, but what You will.”
Luke 22:42
saying, “Father, if it is Your will, take this cup away from Me; nevertheless not My will, but Yours, be done.”
I have highlighted the nuances of what the Gospels record Jesus as saying. Not one instance of it is worded the way that you worded it.
You omitted what Jesus did actually say.
Jesus said,
"...Your will be done,"
"...nevertheless, not what I will, but what You will,”
"...nevertheless not My will, Yours, be done."
Jesus was in agreement with His Father's plan insofar that no matter what--He was going through with it (and He did). You ask why did Jesus ask His Father to take the cup. The cup was a metaphor for becoming sin (so that His Father could condemn it). It was not just the prospect of becoming sin that was so repulsive to Jesus (which was traumatic in itself), but it was the consequences of such an act because for the first time in Jesus' eternal existence He was about to be separated from His Father's fellowship, acceptance, and love. Jesus did not want to experience separation from His Father. It was not the prospect of being beaten or crucified that repulsed Jesus so much as the expectation of being separated from His Father.
The wages of sin is death. Up until that moment in the garden of Gethsemane Jesus was not capable of dying because He had no sin in Him and He never committed sin. Jesus became sin (but He never committed sin), He became sin. At that moment Jesus entered in as it were into His mission as the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. Again, up until that point Jesus was not capable of dying because He had no sin in Him (neither by inheritance nor by commission). But now, after Jesus accepted the cup which symbolized sin (or rather Him becoming sin), Jesus was at the mercy of death (i.e. now Jesus could die as the Lamb of God Who takes away the sin of the world). Now they could kill Him. The innocent, guiltless, sinless Lamb of God could now be slain to pay for the sins of the world. The Father had to treat His only Son like a wretched sinner and turn His back on Him (this is what the Father would have had to do to each and everyone of us had Jesus not willingly accepted the cup that was presented to Him). This is why Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying,
“Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?” that is, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”
The Father cannot abide sin, He is of purer eyes purer eyes than to behold evil, and cannot look on wickedness (i.e. sin). Jesus became sin for us so that His Father could condemn sin in Jesus' flesh. Once sin was condemned through the death of Jesus, the Father could remit our sins (i.e. send them away so that we would not suffer for them in the Lake of Fire for eternity). But again, it is not automatic we must ask Jesus for eternal life otherwise we will not receive it. The Father will not allow sinners to enter into Heaven, His holy habitation.
So this debbiejoe is what Jesus actually said and why He said it.