Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Absolute Happiness is happiness that you created for yourself, indepedent of external influence. It is being happy with yourself, no longer desiring anything else.
And anyone who can achieve this is a person I never want to be around. No one can "not desire." Even those who say they "do not want desire" anything have to "desire to not want to desire" by default.
That is a very, very dangerous person. A nice number of people who get to this point are sociopaths.
Edit: To clarify, absolute happiness is not possible. "Absolute" seems to mean "infinite" or "non-changing." I'm just too lazy to explain fully and I just got a phone call. I will come back LOL
Originally posted by chithappens
And anyone who can achieve this is a person I never want to be around. No one can "not desire." Even those who say they "do not want desire" anything have to "desire to not want to desire" by default.That is a very, very dangerous person. A nice number of people who get to this point are sociopaths.
Edit: To clarify, absolute happiness is not possible. "Absolute" seems to mean "infinite" or "non-changing." I'm just too lazy to explain fully and I just got a phone call. I will come back LOL
Chit, read this:
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Well, Buddhism helps me shape my beliefs, and the Ten Worlds can be applicable to any situation and any religion. I do not beleive in a literal mythological version of Heaven and Hell, but I do beleive in the philosophical versions of Heaven and Hell...You basically have your world of intense agony, and your world of intense joy. Everyone has experienced both. Everyone can relate. There is nothing exclusive about the Buddhist Concept of Heaven and Hell, the way Christianity's versions are exclusive.
However, what many fail to realize is that those worlds are both fragile, and dependent on other forces. Niether of them are self-created, in fact, we have to lose ourselves in order to live in those worlds.
They exist with our permission, but we do not create those realms for ourselves. We only walk the paths to the realms.
When we "create our own Hell" we surround ourself in suffering. We may cause suffering, or allow ourselves to suffer over things that are not worth suffering over. However, the suffering we experience is created by external factors which we give power to.
Same with Heaven...we seek out pleasures, we depend on other people, we plan certain desirable outcomes, and when things go our way we experience intense happiness. However, that happiness is fragile, and can be short-lived, because the happiness is completely dependent on and only fueled by the object of our passion.
Bodhisvattva is the realm in which we look past ourselves....for we already realize the truth of Heaven and Hell, we realize that we have control over our paths and may enter and leave those worlds as we wish, and then we only desire for others to find the same freedom we have.
Bodhisvattva is something we all experience, because we have all cared about the happiness and safety of another person more than our own, at one time or another.
You misunderstand what I say. Bodhisattva is not freedom from desire, it is freedom from poisonous and mind comsuming passions, the realization that we are in control of our behavior, outlook, and mentality. We do not have to suffer if we do not want to.
1) When you have the power to decide what's worth suffering, and what's not, your joy increases.
2) When you learn to be happy with yourself, and realize that you do not NEED more, you only want more, those desires have less control over your mind. You realize that a feeling is just a feeling, a desire is just a desire, and does not need to be fulfilled.
3) You eventually begin to see the suffering in others, how needless that suffering is. You see men and women suffering through heartbreak. You seem men and women who have self esteem issues, or who are ruled by fears of loneliness, failure, etc. You see right through thier suffering, and know that they haven't acquired the personal power to overcome thier suffering.
4) You eventually find joy only in helping others strengthen themselves and achieve thier own happiness. It is a cycle of sorts. You do not desire for them to like you, because that is selfish and superficial. You only desire that they are happy....and realize the same power you have.
Do you now understand what I am saying ?