Originally posted by UniOmni
Fair enough.Superman irks me, though i consistently read and enjoy his stuff.
Maybe it's because he tends to beat up other heroes more than any other mainstream character aside from Hulk.
Maybe it's because of the forcefed nature of his position.
I do think that any character introduced into the DCU proper doesn't have a legit chance at Superstardom, and it does bother me.
Well, then that's your own prerogative, I guess.
Originally posted by UniOmni
I don't look for a top tier to dominate him.
Sure you don't. vin
Originally posted by UniOmni
I do think there are top tiers can take him for a majority, but i concede that the list is short.
Okay then.
Originally posted by UniOmni
And BB doesn't get stomped against Superman.
He does when his best attack can be nullified by Superman.
Originally posted by UniOmni
He might not win the majority,(which i feel isn't nearly out of reach) but he's not Ironman vs Superman here batsy.
Really? 'Cause that's exactly what I thought it was. You sure showed me. dur
Originally posted by UniOmni
And i lol at the Superman stopping BB with white noise thing, because i see it as laughable.
There's really nothing laughable about it.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Doctor Polaris emps Superman and robs him of his hv, due to hv being minature nanobots resting on the inside of Supermans eyelids firing intense infared rays.The collective comic community says WTF because everyone knows that Superman internally generates his hv, and nanobots have nothing to do with it.
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This has shit to do with shit.
Originally posted by UniOmni
BB's voice isn't a sonic attack.
Yep, you're correct about that one. 🙂
However, we've seen how white noise makes his voice completely void.
Why the hell do you think he had spent the first eighteen years of his life in a SOUND PROOF room?
As you would say... "Debunked."
Originally posted by UniOmni
Those two might be more powerful than him, but neither are more consistent.
And yet... Superman is probably the most consistent top tier in DC.
Originally posted by UniOmni
That's why i feel he can at least stalemate Superman.
AT LEAST stalemate Superman? haermm
Eh... no.
Originally posted by UniOmni
IF versatility alone made for more power, Hulk would be less powerful than Ironman.
Uh huh. Versatility isn't everything.
Alright Batsy....
Who's dominated BlackBolt to such a degree that you feel Superman would own him the way Thor would own Ironman?
Superman is the most consistent top tier in DC.
BB is likely the most consistent top tier in Marvel.
Unless you feel that DC>Marvel in powah, i can't see how it's a stomping in either direction.
Not to mention, this thread has Superman taking a scream from BB, which i really doubt would only KO him, but ehh.
And while i've defended the recent Superman feat, it can be interpreted as he took the blast, or he got saved from the blast by Pa.
Meh.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Alright Batsy....Who's dominated BlackBolt to such a degree that you feel Superman would own him the way Thor would own Ironman?
Superman is the most consistent top tier in DC.
BB is likely the most consistent top tier in Marvel.
Unless you feel that DC>Marvel in powah, i can't see how it's a stomping in either direction.
Not to mention, this thread has Superman taking a scream from BB, which i really doubt would only KO him, but ehh.
And while i've defended the recent Superman feat, it can be interpreted as he took the blast, or he got saved from the blast by Pa.
Meh.
Who in Marvel has ever used white noise against him in a battle to nullify his voice?
DEBUNKED!!!
Besides... I seem to remember both Apocalypse and Magneto giving him fits.
Originally posted by batdude123Who?
Who in Marvel has ever used white noise against him in a battle to nullify his voice?DEBUNKED!!!
Besides... I seem to remember both Apocalypse and Magneto giving him fits.
Apocalypse was with his only real prep showing, and it only looked like BB was breathing at him. Cyke cracked him open like a tin can.
Magneto only had his shield stand up to a whisper, as I recall...
Plus, I really, really don't see why Superman beating, or bringing up a plot device is relevant to this thread...
As thread is titled "Black Bolt's scream vs Superman", meaning he's getting off that scream...
Plus, how exactly would Superman find the time to stop his voice anyway?
Originally posted by UniOmni
I'm sure BB can hit harder than the kid from JLA😛ain of the Gods who koed Superman with one hit.I mean, the kid didn't even knock him around the block, just into the next building.
I mean Maggy and Apoc give BB fits, but mere children put Superman to sleep.
Criticisms
Numerous criticisms have been levelled against Austen's writing. The story features an underpowered Superman, in order to act as a key plot device. On occasion, Superman and Wonder Woman both behave as surprisingly inexperienced heroes, despite being two of the most battle-hardened superheroes in the DC universe. Some fans feel both of these are clear continuity errors. Some critics also dislike the portrayal of the Martian Manhunter, J'onn J'onzz. Austen chooses to emphasise J'onn's upbringing in a long dead alien culture, portraying J'onn as someone who acts in a truly alien manner, totally out of character with his normal portrayal. Other critics believe the premise of the entire story has already been widely explored in other comics (e.g. a regular theme in Superman comics is Superman's anguish over his inability to save everyone).
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And you're still avoiding the fact that BB's voice is as good as useless here. 🙂
Originally posted by batdude123And, they start the battle... a planet away from each other or something?
Find the time? Once Black Bolt starts singin'... Superman uses his voice to create a counter-frequency wavelength. Or... white noise.There's nothing complicated about the matter.
Oh wait, Superman can counter Black Bolt's scream a foot away from his face... I forgot.
Originally posted by batdude123
Find the time? Once Black Bolt starts singin'... Superman uses his voice to create a counter-frequency wavelength. Or... white noise.There's nothing complicated about the matter.
Or he can shoot HV down his throat.
Or he can take it. Superman's durability is >>>>>BB's scream.
Silver Banshees wail did nothing but annoy him...and that scream can suck life energy out of you.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindThe weird thing is, this fight starts with Black Bolt screaming, and Superman being a foot away from him...
Or he can shoot HV down his throat.Or he can take it. Superman's durability is >>>>>BB's scream.
Silver Banshees wail did nothing but annoy him...and that scream can suck life energy out of you.
I really fail to see this actually.
Whispers have put down some of the most powerful heroes that he has fought...
And, he has never screamed, and all we know is that a scream if way more powerful than a whisper.
What exactly has she done to prove that she's even comparable to Black Bolt?
Other than show the capability to scream, that is.
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
The weird thing is, this fight starts with Black Bolt screaming, and Superman being a foot away from him...I really fail to see this actually.
Whispers have put down some of the most powerful heroes that he has fought...
And, he has never screamed, and all we know is that a scream if way more powerful than a whisper.
Never denied that BB's scream is powerful...but unless it could truly be compared to some of the things Supes has endured without issue...then it's pretty moot.
And Glads is a notorious jobber. This is the same guy that was knocked down by Gambits cards, and had problems with Colossus, and couldn't stop a tidal wave.
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
What exactly has she done to prove that she's even comparable to Black Bolt?
Other than show the capability to scream, that is.
Her wail is magical in nature to both be destructive and has the ability to turn living beings to husks from draining their life force.
As she is a magical being...her wail should have more of an effect..and he's taken it just fine.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindDoesn't take away that he is portrayed like a champ against BB.
Never denied that BB's scream is powerful...but unless it could truly be compared to some of the things Supes has endured without issue...then it's pretty moot.And Glads is a notorious jobber. This is the same guy that was knocked down by Gambits cards, and had problems with Colossus, and couldn't stop a tidal wave.
I'm just comparing it to the top tier durability people in Marvel, for now.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindHaha, Jeph Loeb...
Her wail is magical in nature to both be destructive and has the ability to turn living beings to husks from draining their life force.As she is a magical being...her wail should have more of an effect..and he's taken it just fine.
Anyway, yes it's magical, good, I also remember some people arguing how well Superman takes his weaknesses...
Also, I asked how powerful it was.
What has it done to compare?
Because, I remember Capt Marvel like breaking Superman's face with magic, and something that is being comparable to Black Bolt, which is also magical...
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
And, they start the battle... a planet away from each other or something?Oh wait, Superman can counter Black Bolt's scream a foot away from his face... I forgot.
Oh, I'm sorry too. I must have forgotten that Superman can sense the slightest changes in atmospheric pressure, can see electrons shift in the air, can see in all different wavelengths, can hear on all different frequencies, has near Flash level reflexes (in other words... damn near instantaneous), etc. I don't know what I was thinking. ermmhappy
I wouldn't even say it's a stretch for Superman to start using a frequency with a flat power spectral density before BB's scream comes out.
So, you'll have to excuse me for laughing at the statement that Superman couldn't find the time to make Black Bolt's scream null.
A foot away? No doubt in my mind Superman could pull that off easily. With the white noise, I mean.