Black Bolt's Scream vs. Superman

Originally posted by batdude123
Oh, I'm sorry too. I must have forgotten that Superman can sense the slightest changes in atmospheric pressure, can see electrons shift in the air, can see in all different wavelengths, can hear on all different frequencies, has near Flash level reflexes (in other words... damn near instantaneous), etc. I don't know what I was thinking. ermmhappy

I wouldn't even say it's a stretch for Superman to start using a frequency with a flat power spectral density before BB's scream comes out.

So, you'll have to excuse me for laughing at the statement that Superman couldn't find the time to make Black Bolt's scream null.

A foot away? No doubt in my mind Superman could pull that off easily.

And yet, he has to react to a massive blast, which would be very wide in radius, very fast, and a weaker blast has taken out Watcher Doom.

Also, I don't see Superman dodging fast enough, or react fast enough to completely dodge/null the voice, but that's besides the point.
I really don't see Superman standing after a full scream by BB...

I'm not saying BB could beat him in a fight, but under the circumstances of this fight...
BB takes him out.
Hell, his voice destroyed something that a Skull nuke, and Thor's hammer couldn't scratch.

Plus, you'll have to explain to me, what a white noise will do here. And when Superman used it, when he had less than a second to use it...
I'm not reading this entire thread.

Also, didn't Avalon just show Superman getting hit by Silver Banshee a page back?

Plus, what do you think would happen if the blast hit Superman?
No white noise, no plot devices.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Of course, of course.

And yet, he has to react to a massive blast, which would be very wide in radius, very fast, and a weaker blast has taken out Watcher Doom.

Also, I don't see Superman dodging fast enough, or react fast enough to completely dodge/null the voice, but that's besides the point.

I don't see why not. He has all the tools to.

And it's not like he has to reverse the sound AFTER Black Bolt yells. He could hear his heart rate change, listen to his jaw muscle tensing and getting ready to open, hear Black Bolt take a breath in order to yell, etc etc.

Regardless, if Black Bolt did get the scream out... Superman can easily see electron shifts in the air. It would just be a matter of reversing the process from there.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
I really don't see Superman standing after a full scream by BB...

I'm not saying BB could beat him in a fight, but under the circumstances of this fight...
BB takes him out.
Hell, his voice destroyed something that a Skull nuke, and Thor's hammer couldn't scratch.

I don't believe I said anything different. That should answer your edited post.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Plus, you'll have to explain to me, what a white noise will do here. And when Superman used it, when he had less than a second to use it...
I'm not reading this entire thread...

It nulls sound waves ala a sound proof room. Just like what BB had to reside in for a large portion of his life.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Also, didn't Avalon just show Superman getting hit by Silver Banshee a page back?

Your point? He didn't do anything fancy because he knows what she's capable of, and because he can take her scream effortlessly.

Originally posted by batdude123
I don't see why not. He has all the tools to.

And it's not like he has to reverse the sound AFTER Black Bolt yells. He could hear his heart rate change, listen to his jaw muscle tensing and getting ready to open, hear Black Bolt take a breath in order to yell, etc etc.

Regardless, if Black Bolt did get the scream out... Superman can easily see electron shifts in the air. It would just be a matter of reversing the process from there.

I don't believe I said anything different.

It nulls sound waves ala a sound proof room. Just like what BB had to reside in for a large portion of his life.

Your point? He didn't do anything fancy because he knows what she's capable of, and because he can take her scream effortlessly.

Also, from the looks of the first post, it seems like Black Bolt gets out his scream before anything happens...

Now, I really don't believe this... at all.
Reverse the electrons after he screams? How exactly?
And how does he do this, in less than a second?

BB was trained as a child not to make sounds...
It's not like the rooms would help any.
Hell, he destroyed his city with a whisper before...
As a baby, he reached the center of the city, and made it crumble by screaming...
I don't remember him ever screaming, or making noise in sound proof rooms...

So... what if I used a first time meeting, or something where Superman gets smoked?
Would that be acceptable, since it would seem that any time Superman gets hit (by someone he fought before), it wouldn't be an accurate portrayal of this fight (judging solely off of one comment of course, but still)...
Even though, him using ridicules powers would be more sane than him getting hit by an extremely powerful/fast blast a foot away.

Keep in mind he's not dodging or reversing Hulk, or dodging a punch.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
You know... for every exotic power that Superman has used against someone as fast as Black Bolt... there are about a hundred other showings, where he never even attempts anything of the sort.

Eh, it really all depends on the writer. He's been given plenty of plot device powers since his resurrection.

T-Vo anyone?

Although, I will say that Superman has been able to project his voice on any frequency for awhile now.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Also, from the looks of the first post, it seems like Black Bolt gets out his scream before anything happens...

By the intentions of the thread, it appears that Superman has to just stand there and take the scream without doing anything.

In which case, I agree he gets KO'd.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Now, I really don't believe this... at all.
Reverse the electrons after he screams? How exactly?
And how does he do this, in less than a second?

It's the power (or result) of his voice that interacts with ambient electrons in the air which is the outcome of the scream.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
BB was trained as a child not to make sounds...
It's not like the rooms would help any.
Hell, he destroyed his city with a whisper before...
As a baby, he reached the center of the city, and made it crumble by screaming...
I don't remember him ever screaming, or making noise in sound proof rooms...

Soundproofing uses white noise. It was proven in a comic that Black Bolt was a threat to the community unless he was in the sound proofed chamber. He was only released because he then understood that his voice = bad.

Revoke the sound, and you cancel the damage of his voice.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
So... what if I used a first time meeting, or something where Superman gets smoked?
Would that be acceptable, since it would seem that any time Superman gets hit (by someone he fought before), it wouldn't be an accurate portrayal of this fight (judging solely off of one comment of course, but still)...

How is the answer to that statement any different from saying Silver Surfer only uses a fraction of his powers in combat against most foes?

If you can use preventative or specific actions in order to cancel out an attack, it would completely dumb not to use that advantage.

However, I see your point. In a comic, a writer more than likely wouldn't think to do that for Supes.

But this is a forum fight, rather than a comic. Combatants are using everything at their disposal.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Even though, him using ridicules powers would be more sane than him getting hit by an extremely powerful/fast blast a foot away.

Or Superman getting himself into that kind of a position. 😂

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
He's not dodging or reversing Hulk, or dodging a punch.

Que? lol

Damn Batdude, you sound like me with Storm about seeing an opponets electrical signals and electrons.shocklaugh

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Damn Batdude, you sound like me with Storm about seeing an opponets electrical signals and electrons.shocklaugh

O rly? 313

Originally posted by batdude123
O rly? 313

MHMM.

Wouldn't seeing all those minute things only leave supes with like miliseconds to act??

Think about just all of sudden raising your voice to scream and all the little things that happend prior to that.

It's a REALLY small window of time.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
MHMM.

Wouldn't seeing all those minute things only leave supes with like miliseconds to act??

Think about just all of suddend rasing your voice to scream and all the little things that happend prior to that.

It's a REALLY small window of time.

Indeed. It's a good thing his reaction speed and reflexes are up to the task. 😖mart:

Originally posted by batdude123
Eh, it really all depends on the writer. He's been given plenty of plot device powers since his resurrection.

T-Vo anyone?

Although, I will say that Superman has been able to project his voice on any frequency for awhile now.

And Superman frequency will blot out his voice?
Sorry, but I'm not really buying it.

Originally posted by batdude123
By the intentions of the thread, it appears that Superman has to just stand there and take the scream without doing anything.

In which case, I agree he gets KO'd.

Basically stacking up what he can do.
Or in the thread starter's case:
"What can bring down Superman?"

Originally posted by batdude123
It's the power (or result) of his voice that interacts with ambient electrons in the air which is the outcome of the scream.

Originally posted by batdude123
Soundproofing uses white noise. It was proven in a comic that Black Bolt was a threat to the community unless he was in the sound proofed chamber. He was only released because he then understood that his voice = bad.

Revoke the sound, and you cancel the damage of his voice.

Originally posted by batdude123
How is the answer to that statement any different from saying Silver Surfer only uses a fraction of his powers in combat against most foes?

If you can use preventative or specific actions in order to cancel out an attack, it would completely dumb not to use that advantage.

However, I see your point. In a comic, a writer more than likely wouldn't think to do that for Supes.

But this is a forum fight, rather than a comic. Combatants are using everything at their disposal.

Yes, of course, but, I fail to see how exactly Superman would reverse or block it.
I kind of fail to see anyone blocking it, unless they were a massive energy manipulator (hell, I don't even think Surfer could do it).

I thought CIS applied in the forums...

Originally posted by batdude123
Or Superman getting himself into that kind of a position. 😂

Originally posted by batdude123
Que? lol

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
I know, but he hardly uses them enough to make me think he will think of them in this short of time.
Or even then, will be able to use them, in the intention for how long this thread will last.

And Superman frequency will blot out his voice?
Sorry, but I'm not really buying it.

I thought more along the lines of, Superman came into his reach, and Black Bolt let off his attack.

Basically stacking up what he can do.
Or in the thread starter's case:
"What can bring down Superman?"

Even then, Superman reverses this... how?

And, Black Bolt used his voice against these walls?
Plus, he has been able to control his voice since he was a kid...
Which, even if said room did work, his voice is plenty more powerful.

Difference:
Surfer uses these powers on a daily basis.

Yes, of course, but, I fail to see how exactly Superman would reverse or block it.
I kind of fail to see anyone blocking it, unless they were a massive energy manipulator (hell, I don't even think Surfer could do it).

I thought CIS applied in the forums...

Well he did.

Worded wrong, then reworded.
Long story short, Superman may be able to do this type of shit against Hulk, but Black Bolt is way faster, and more effective.

I'll respond tomorrow. Tired right now. 🙂

To Batdude and Avy.....

What do you think would realistically happen if BB just screamed at Superman as hard as he can?

Blink?

Smirk?
Redo his spitcurl?

Really??

Just going by the way it's portrayed in comics, i can't see any writer having him shrug off a whisper, let alone a scream.

But have fun on that river.

Originally posted by UniOmni
To Batdude and Avy.....

What do you think would realistically happen if BB just screamed at Superman as hard as he can?

Blink?

Smirk?
Redo his spitcurl?

Really??

Just going by the way it's portrayed in comics, i can't see any writer having him shrug off a whisper, let alone a scream.

But have fun on that river.

If and I say if Supes just stood there and let Black Bolt scream in his face, it would hurt. It wouldn't kill him. It wouldn't KO him, but he would feel it.

However in a fight, Black Bolt would never get the chance to scream. And yes, as Batdude said, it's entirely possible, and within Superman's powers, that he can negate BB's voice. doped

Has anyone besides me realized that through the duration of his history, the extent of Black Bolts powers have yet to be explored? We've witnessed him whisper and the destructive capability produced was or has been exceedingly impressive, but other than that what have we seen? Has anyone ever thought about what would happen if he spoke as normal humans do, such as speaking in whole sentences let alone actually yelling. Mere whispers have destroyed cities and brought top tier characters to their knees. Imagine what would happen if spoke this whole paragraph.

.......

It takes Superman time to identify the frequency of a noise,as showed when he fought Z and had to stall,he would have to stand there listening to BB scream for like a minute for it to work.

he wouldn't last a minute.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
[b]If and I say if Supes just stood there and let Black Bolt scream in his face, it would hurt. It wouldn't kill him. It wouldn't KO him, but he would feel it.

However in a fight, Black Bolt would never get the chance to scream. And yes, as Batdude said, it's entirely possible, and within Superman's powers, that he can negate BB's voice. doped [/B]

Lmao.

His whisper has dropped top tiers before, and yet a Scream from him wouldn't reduce Superman to ash?

Lemme guess.

You think Superman would take the godblast and be severely hurt, but not dead OR Koed, right?

You make me laugh.

Originally posted by His Airness
Has anyone besides me realized that through the duration of his history, the extent of Black Bolts powers have yet to be explored? We've witnessed him whisper and the destructive capability produced was or has been exceedingly impressive, but other than that what have we seen? Has anyone ever thought about what would happen if he spoke as normal humans do, such as speaking in whole sentences let alone actually yelling. Mere whispers have destroyed cities and brought top tier characters to their knees. Imagine what would happen if spoke this whole paragraph.

He did speak when he powered Reed's device to open a hole in reality or what ever.

Didn't he use his scream when he was very young? (hence the training so he wouldn't kill people accidentally)

Originally posted by UniOmni
Lmao.

His whisper has dropped top tiers before, and yet a Scream from him wouldn't reduce Superman to ash?

Lemme guess.

You think Superman would take the godblast and be severely hurt, but not dead OR Koed, right?

You make me laugh.

He makes us all laugh Uni.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
[b]If and I say if Supes just stood there and let Black Bolt scream in his face, it would hurt. It wouldn't kill him. It wouldn't KO him, but he would feel it.

However in a fight, Black Bolt would never get the chance to scream. And yes, as Batdude said, it's entirely possible, and within Superman's powers, that he can negate BB's voice. doped [/B]

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
[b]If and I say if Supes just stood there and let Black Bolt scream in his face, it would hurt. It wouldn't kill him. It wouldn't KO him, but he would feel it.

However in a fight, Black Bolt would never get the chance to scream. And yes, as Batdude said, it's entirely possible, and within Superman's powers, that he can negate BB's voice. doped [/B]

No need to stress it buddy. According to most Marvelites, just about anything drops Superman. To hell with the fact that he survives much worse on a regular basis.

Make a Marvel character who throws toothpicks and they'll argue to the death that will take Superman out.

Originally posted by UniOmni
To Batdude and Avy.....

What do you think would realistically happen if BB just screamed at Superman as hard as he can?

Blink?

Smirk?
Redo his spitcurl?

Really??

Just going by the way it's portrayed in comics, i can't see any writer having him shrug off a whisper, let alone a scream.

But have fun on that river.

The way it's portrayed in comics... BB will catch Superman unaware at first...and send him flying somewhere...Superman will get up with his cape tattered. After a little while BB will do his best and a pissed Superman will go through it (like just about everything else) and KO Blackbolt.

Then people would come in these forums and whine and moan about Superman being too powerful while stroking SS and Thanos in another thread for being powerful.