Black Bolt's Scream vs. Superman

Started by UniOmni24 pages

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
The way it's portrayed in comics... BB will catch Superman unaware at first...and send him flying somewhere...Superman will get up with his cape tattered. After a little while BB will do his best and a pissed Superman will go through it (like just about everything else) and KO Blackbolt.

Then people would come in these forums and whine and moan about Superman being too powerful while stroking SS and Thanos in another thread for being powerful.

Who do you know in comics who's taken a scream and fallen, only to get up and get the victory?

Cuz this isn't about a whisper.

It's about the scream.

Superman would likely take a whisper, fall and get up bloodied and take the win, likely due to nostalgia or for being the original.

Superman would not take a scream, only to get up pissed and take the victory.

That just isn't happening.

Look at the damage done by whispers and loud words, and imagine it amplified by the scream.

Hell, even in the noncanon MU, he's taken on Celestials with his power.

Dude is respected, and likely the most powerful and consistent conventional top tier pound for pound in Marvel.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
The way it's portrayed in comics... BB will catch Superman unaware at first...and send him flying somewhere...Superman will get up with his cape tattered. After a little while BB will do his best and a pissed Superman will go through it (like just about everything else) and KO Blackbolt.

Then people would come in these forums and whine and moan about Superman being too powerful while stroking SS and Thanos in another thread for being powerful.

😆 supes would do good to get up after a whisper.....but a scream ..........

Originally posted by UniOmni
Who do you know in comics who's taken a scream and fallen, only to get up and get the victory?

Cuz this isn't about a whisper.

It's about the scream.

Superman would likely take a whisper, fall and get up bloodied and take the win, likely due to nostalgia or for being the original.

Superman would not take a scream, only to get up pissed and take the victory.

That just isn't happening.

Look at the damage done by whispers and loud words, and imagine it amplified by the scream.

Hell, even in the noncanon MU, he's taken on Celestials with his power.

Dude is respected, and likely the most powerful and consistent conventional top tier pound for pound in Marvel.

Your opinion...and we both know that isn't what would happen in a comic or with Superman not jobbing.

Many an unstoppable attack or force has been stopped by Superman before...and even you have stated it. He's consistent with this type of thing. Now if you can prove that it's more powerful than other things Superman has survived and gone though.. fine. Otherwise, taking down Hulk and Glads is not exactly viable proof either.

By the way...you aren't bringing up the celestials...now your bringing them down. They're starting to sound like probes.

And by the way..this would only be in the scenario that Superman wasn't fighting back.

I never said he defeated Celestials tho.

I said he took them on.

Earth X iirc, and he was stated to be their best chance against them.

He got wiped out in short order, but the fact that he went up against them is telling.

It's not Ironman vs Superman here.

And the only unbeatable attack that i know Superman has taken and prevailed against, with any kind of record of uber showings, was Darky and the OE.

And it was beaten by a peer of Superman years before he did it himself.

Precedent and all that.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
The weird thing is, this fight starts with Black Bolt screaming, and Superman being a foot away from him...

I really fail to see this actually.
Whispers have put down some of the most powerful heroes that he has fought...
And, he has never screamed, and all we know is that a scream if way more powerful than a whisper.

What exactly has she done to prove that she's even comparable to Black Bolt?
Other than show the capability to scream, that is.

THANKYOU!!!

Why is this debate turning into somehow giving superman the ability to "stop" It? And as far as the white noise thing goes? Well, im not denying some sort of "white noise" has been used against BB (though, im not fimiliar with it so i would appreciate it if someone could explain that.. becuase i dont recall his voice ever being completely nullified past infant age)

On the other hand, IF we are going by what has been established for black bolt, His scream has nothing to do with sound and as im sure you all are aware, rather visciously tears all molecuels & atoms apart on an incredibly destructive level. NOt to mention black bolt has never unleashed a full scream -- and we've seen his whispers doing justice on rather durable characters. Again, im not going to say superman would be ko'ed by a full scream becuase im aware of supermans "strange" tippy top showings

However, to deny that it would do serious harm is a blatant error in gaugeing the true extent of blackbolts scream or rather, to exzadurate (sp?) supermans ability to absorb damage (given this scneario)

Originally posted by UniOmni
Lmao.

His whisper has dropped top tiers before, and yet a Scream from him wouldn't reduce Superman to ash?

Lemme guess.

You think Superman would take the godblast and be severely hurt, but not dead OR Koed, right?

You make me laugh.


No.

they wouldn't,.

None of those attacks would destroy Superman.

Originally posted by UniOmni
I never said he defeated Celestials tho.

I said he took them on.

Earth X iirc, and he was stated to be their best chance against them.

He got wiped out in short order, but the fact that he went up against them is telling.

It's not Ironman vs Superman here.

And the only unbeatable attack that i know Superman has taken and prevailed against, with any kind of record of uber showings, was Darky and the OE.

And it was beaten by a peer of Superman years before he did it himself.

Precedent and all that.

Earth X isn't canon and it's also not Ironman vs BB either.

What can BB's scream do that disintegration beams, Skyfather matter manip, Exploding Supernovas, Magical lighting, Red Suns, Entropy blasts, Mirror energy, Sun eaters blasts, and the OE can't do?

How do you think Superman would fare against a godblast?

Originally posted by His Airness
Has anyone besides me realized that through the duration of his history, the extent of Black Bolts powers have yet to be explored? We've witnessed him whisper and the destructive capability produced was or has been exceedingly impressive, but other than that what have we seen? Has anyone ever thought about what would happen if he spoke as normal humans do, such as speaking in whole sentences let alone actually yelling. Mere whispers have destroyed cities and brought top tier characters to their knees. Imagine what would happen if spoke this whole paragraph.

Exactly how I see it. I'm mean his voice literally ripped a hole in reality recently, and a mere word took out a Skrull ship and a large city. The power of the voice might not be the main factor, but the fact he can use it repeatedly.

Superman wouldn't even be ash, he'd be nothing.

Originally posted by panthergod
No.

they wouldn't,.

None of those attacks would destroy Superman.

Lol JellyBeans!

A godblast wouldn't destroy Superman, when it nearly dropped Galactus and broke the braincase of the top Celestial?

The same kind of Celestial that palmed the blast of the Uber Destroyer?

Superman wouldn't take the godblast in a comic, but if he did, he'd certainly be wasted beyond the point of death.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Lol JellyBeans!

A godblast wouldn't destroy Superman, when it nearly dropped Galactus and broke the braincase of the top Celestial?

The same kind of Celestial that palmed the blast of the Uber Destroyer?

Superman wouldn't take the godblast in a comic, but if he did, he'd certainly be wasted beyond the point of death.

Except Galdaiator has taken it, as has Juggeranught !

Originally posted by UniOmni
Superman wouldn't take the godblast in a comic, but if he did, he'd certainly be wasted beyond the point of death.

I seriously doubt that a godblast would kill Superman in a comic.

Originally posted by UniOmni
Lol JellyBeans!

A godblast wouldn't destroy Superman, when it nearly dropped Galactus and broke the braincase of the top Celestial?

The same kind of Celestial that palmed the blast of the Uber Destroyer?

Superman wouldn't take the godblast in a comic, but if he did, he'd certainly be wasted beyond the point of death.

FOR THE LAST TIME, STOP USING THE EXITAR FEAT! 😠 God damn, you're the only person who doesn't recoqnize that for the massive PIS it is. 🙄

Originally posted by UniOmni
Lol JellyBeans!

A godblast wouldn't destroy Superman, when it nearly dropped Galactus and broke the braincase of the top Celestial?


With the Belt of Strength wrapped around it, of course.

You mean the same Godblast that Juggernaut walked through?

the same Juggerneaut that Superman downed with one superspeed punch? 😛

No one said that it wouldn't hurt him.

But at his highest settings, it's NOT destroying Superman, no.


The same kind of Celestial that palmed the blast of the Uber Destroyer?

Superman wouldn't take the godblast in a comic, but if he did, he'd certainly be wasted beyond the point of death.


Since he literally walked though the full Omega Effect, I disagree.

I don't see a godblast killing Superman.

Maybe if his magic vulnerability were played up to explain it - played up a good deal.

Failing that, I imagine Superman'd be hurt, but certainly not killed.

Didn't Sentry take a decent shot from BlackBolt unharmed? I think it might have messed his hair up though.

Sentry didn't take the shot.

He caught the backwind, since he was in the air, whereas the Avengers on the ground caught it.

And to PG, Juggernauts schtick is invulnerability.

And why would his magical durability need to be excessively played up to have an uber attack kill him?

I'm not talking about one his Thors generic hammer blasts, i'm talking about his trump card.
Plus, wasn't he in his eighth day phase?

And to the people saying it wouldn't kill him in a comic.......no shit sherlocks.

It wouldn't get to that point, one or the other would be koed by the time it got that desperate.

Going by who it's dropped in a comic, the godblast would leave Superman smoking in a crater, unto or in death.

Lol at Uxas being brought into the debate.

He's been teleporting Superman around for years, but whenever his OE was tried, failure.

He couldn't even take him down with the OE tuned to his dna. Uxas is not a good example.

Who's taken the Godblast who's on the level of Superman, and didn't die?

Originally posted by UniOmni
Sentry didn't take the shot.

He caught the backwind, since he was in the air, whereas the Avengers on the ground caught it.

Not to mention, it was just a whisper, IIRC.

Just pointing out for Uni - it wasn't eighth day, as far as I know. It was just regular old Juggernaut that took the Godblast.