Black Bolt's Scream vs. Superman

Started by Symmetric Chaos24 pages
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Quiet you. doped

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
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Originally posted by darthgoober
See that's the reason I don't trust respect threads(notice that the page is cropped right after the word disbelief). Here's what REALLY happened...


True true... I owned that comic ages ago.. and remember that the blast didn't actually stop him. Odd that I didn't remember the ground breaking underneath him.

Another thing...a steel enclosure was more effective than the godblast?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I didn't see the word godblast there either . . .

They looked practically identical to me as well.

Didn't Galactus get knocked back by a scream from Black Bolt, not to mention a silent whisper killed Apocalyps in an instant.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
True true... I owned that comic ages ago.. and remember that the blast didn't actually stop him. Odd that I didn't remember the ground breaking underneath him.

Another thing...a steel enclosure was more effective than the godblast?

The blast did stop him though... and moved him back...

The steel enclosure was only there to serve as a stupid New Warriors way of stopping him, and then Thor used it to transport him away.
As you can plainly see, Juggernaut broke out of it with ease.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
They looked practically identical to me as well.
God Force?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
True true... I owned that comic ages ago.. and remember that the blast didn't actually stop him. Odd that I didn't remember the ground breaking underneath him.

Another thing...a steel enclosure was more effective than the godblast?

They looked practically identical to me as well.


Well it DID stop his forward momentum(which is an incredible feat that's only been accomplished one other time), and I'm pretty sure that's what bran was talking about.

And as for the steel enclosure, you have to remember that Juggs wasn't moving then so his breaking out was pure strength rather than his plot device "unstoppably".

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
The blast did stop him though... and moved him back...

The steel enclosure was only there to serve as a stupid New Warriors way of stopping him, and then Thor used it to transport him away.
As you can plainly see, Juggernaut broke out of it with ease.

If the ground would not have given way..he would have continued to walk through it....and simply...the steel enclosure was more effective in actually "stopping" Juggs.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
God Force?

Thor talked a few secs...did the same pose...shot the same energy. It's not a fighting game where he'll scream out his "SUPER" every time, is it?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
If the ground would not have given way..he would have continued to walk through it....and simply...the steel enclosure was more effective in actually "stopping" Juggs.
Speculation. It said Juggernaut was being forced backwards, and was struggling to regain his forward momentum (and thus had not succeeded).

For all we know, he could have never regained forward momentum.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Thor talked a few secs...did the same pose...shot the same energy. It's not a fighting game where he'll scream out his "SUPER" every time, is it?
Considering it's his ultimate attack, and only been used a handful of times throughout his entire career... it's kind of important that it's evidently a godblast, and not just a generic energy blast.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
If the ground would not have given way..he would have continued to walk through it....and simply...the steel enclosure was more effective in actually "stopping" Juggs.
The ground didn't give way, when it said he was forced back, from his forward momentum...
Or, when it said he struggled to regain his forward momentum...

Juggernaut wasn't moving, nor was he fighting back against it...
He just got put on his back in a hole.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Thor talked a few secs...did the same pose...shot the same energy. It's not a fighting game where he'll scream out his "SUPER" every time, is it?
It is actually...
Also, Thor never focused up his attack in the Gladiator fight.
He just stood, and shot.

It wasn't a Godblast, as a Godblast would have annihilated Glads...
Which would rule it out as pis, even if it was.
So, ya... either way, I don't see the relevancy.

Also, earlier in the comic, he did another blast, that had almost the same effect on Glads...
I hardly think he did it twice.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Thor talked a few secs...did the same pose...shot the same energy. It's not a fighting game where he'll scream out his "SUPER" every time, is it?

Does that mean we assume that everything that comes out of Darkseids eyes to be the OE with it's erase from reality effect? For that matter, Flash hitting with an IMP looks no different than a regular punch as far as he's concerned, so does that mean that the hundreds of people that he's punched have all survived a full force IMP?

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
It wasn't a Godblast, as a Godblast would have annihilated Glads...
Which would rule it out as pis, even if it was.
So, ya... either way, I don't see the relevancy.

Catch22 much?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Catch22 much?
I already explained that it wasn't... just wanted to throw that in.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
I already explained that it wasn't... just wanted to throw that in.

Oh . . . 😂

Originally posted by darthgoober
Does that mean we assume that everything that comes out of Darkseids eyes to be the OE with it's erase from reality effect? For that matter, Flash hitting with an IMP looks no different than a regular punch as far as he's concerned, so does that mean that the hundreds of people that he's punched have all survived a full force IMP?

So you agree that a character must yell out and explain their top move whenever they use it?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
So you agree that a character must yell out and explain their top move whenever they use it?

We have anime for that already.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
The ground didn't give way, when it said he was forced back, from his forward momentum...
Or, when it said he struggled to regain his forward momentum...

Juggernaut wasn't moving, nor was he fighting back against it...
He just got put on his back in a hole.

It threw off his momentum..didn't take him out or send him flying. The concrete broke. Had it not...he would have kept going.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
It is actually...
Also, Thor never focused up his attack in the Gladiator fight.
He just stood, and shot.

It wasn't a Godblast, as a Godblast would have annihilated Glads...
Which would rule it out as pis, even if it was.
So, ya... either way, I don't see the relevancy.

Also, earlier in the comic, he did another blast, that had almost the same effect on Glads...
I hardly think he did it twice.

This blast at least knocked Glads back..and made some stuff explode...instead of having concrete break apart.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
We have anime for that already.

And Psylocke in the 90's.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
So you agree that a character must yell out and explain their top move whenever they use it?

If it's a move that's not only rarely seen, but also their ultimate move absolutely. Thor's only used the GB 2 or 3 times to my knowledge because of it's power, so every time he does there's a big show surrounding it and it's specially noted that he's using it. By the same token, Flash hardly ever actually uses an IMP and when he does it's a pretty big deal, unless it's actually established somehow that he's using one then as far as I'm concerned he's not.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
It threw off his momentum..didn't take him out or send him flying. The concrete broke. Had it not...he would have kept going.

This blast at least knocked Glads back..and made some stuff explode...instead of having concrete break apart.

He was forced back as well...
I don't think concrete breaking forces a person back.
Also:
Concrete not broke, Juggernaut stopped.

The difference here, is that Juggernaut was moving forward (which supposedly can not be stopped, ya'll mean), and Thor stopped him.
Gladiator is just durable, he's not "unstoppable".

It's hardly a comparison, but just that Thor's G Blast can overcome shit like that.

I think it's obvious that it threw off his momentum and then the floor gave from under him hence the "krak" in the scan. Juggy was still on his feet.

As far as the blast with Glads...it wasn't implied that it was one but I never knew it had to be.