Black Bolt's Scream vs. Superman

Started by Avalonofthewind24 pages

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
He was forced back as well...
I don't think concrete breaking forces a person back.
Also:
Concrete not broke, Juggernaut stopped.

The difference here, is that Juggernaut was moving forward (which supposedly can not be stopped, ya'll mean), and Thor stopped him.
Gladiator is just durable, he's not "unstoppable".

It's hardly a comparison, but just that Thor's G Blast can overcome shit like that.

Yep. Stopped momentum. Momentarily.

Ground Broke. Juggy not hurt.

Would walk more but...

Ground broke.

Jugg fell.

BFR.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
I think it's obvious that it threw off his momentum and then the floor gave from under him hence the "krak" in the scan. Juggy was still on his feet.

As far as the blast with Glads...it wasn't implied that it was one but I never knew it had to be.

You don't struggle to regain your forward momentum, before the ground beneath you collapses...
Plus, I seem to remember Juggernaut moving forward, and getting moved back after the G blast...
So, based on the "ground collapsing stopped Juggernaut" argument, does that mean that Juggernaut was still moving forward even when he was getting moved backwards?

Hmm... either way you look at it, it seems that Juggernaut was sort of, you know, stopped.

So... basically, you thought that an attack that brought down Galactus, stopped Juggernaut, and blew through a Celestial dome, only managed to singe Glad's cape?

Seems like a fair observation...

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Yep. Stopped momentum. Momentarily.

Ground Broke. Juggy not hurt.

Would walk more but...

Ground broke.

Jugg fell.

BFR.

He was standing straight up before the ground broke... with his back slightly bent the other way...

Certainly doesn't seem like he's walking more... but more so fighting to get moving forward again...

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Yep. Stopped momentum. Momentarily.

Ground Broke. Juggy not hurt.

Would walk more but...

Ground broke.

Jugg fell.

BFR.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Speculation. It said Juggernaut was being forced backwards, and was struggling to regain his forward momentum (and thus had not succeeded).

For all we know, he could have never regained forward momentum.

Where is the next panel at? Juggy even says the foundation can't take the pressure. He was fine with it.

It says "strains to regain his forward momentum."

Semantically what does this imply?
1. He has lost forward momentum, ergo "regain."
2. He is in the process of trying to regain forward momentum, ergo present tense "strains."

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Where is the next panel at? Juggy even says the foundation can't take the pressure. He was fine with it.

Of course he was fine with it, Juggs pretty much IS durability. He was fine with it while he was being pushed back too, it doesn't mean that he wasn't BEING pushed back.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Of course he was fine with it, Juggs pretty much IS durability. He was fine with it while he was being pushed back too, it doesn't mean that he wasn't BEING pushed back.
Yea but if he was expecting it it might have been different. Juggy must have thought he could have gained back his momentum cause after the foundation broke he says "It's not fair! I would have WON!"

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yea but if he was expecting it it might have been different. Juggy must have thought he could have gained back his momentum cause after the foundation broke he says "It's not fair! I would have WON!"
Juggy also thought the blast wouldn't do jack in the first place... then it stopped him altogether, and forced him backwards.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Juggy also thought the blast wouldn't do jack in the first place... then it stopped him altogether, and forced him backwards.
True...but maybe he turned up the heat. He didn't seem to worried after the intial hit.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph

"I would have won"

Juggs was pretty sure he was going to keep going just fine.

Ground....

Broke....

Originally posted by snoopdogg
True...but maybe he turned up the heat. He didn't seem to worried after the intial hit.
Speculation.

Juggy's assessment of his own capabilities, and the capability of other forces is obviously limited and skewed... obviously not a reasonable argument anyhow.

What we see is that Juggy was forced backwards, and was unable to keep moving forwards.

That's about it.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind

"I would have won"

Juggs was pretty sure he was going to keep going just fine.

Ground....

Broke....

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Speculation.

Juggy's assessment of his own capabilities, and the capability of other forces is obviously limited and skewed... obviously not a reasonable argument anyhow.

What we see is that Juggy was forced backwards, and was unable to keep moving forwards.

That's about it.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yea but if he was expecting it it might have been different. Juggy must have thought he could have gained back his momentum cause after the foundation broke he says "It's not fair! I would have WON!"

So you're speculating using "Might have been's"? The only evidence on the subject is that the GB DID stop(and force back) the Juggernaut. Any number of things COULD have happened if the ground didn't break, but none of them actually did and they're therefor invalid.

And Thor said something about being able to take Supes if they fought again, does that make it true? Because it's just a valid of an example as Juggs statement.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by darthgoober
So you're speculating using "Might have been's"? The only evidence on the subject is that the GB DID stop(and force back) the Juggernaut. Any number of things COULD have happened if the ground didn't break, but none of them actually did and they're therefor invalid.

And Thor said something about being able to take Supes if they fought again, does that make it true? Because it's just a valid of an example as Juggs statement.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Storm could be potentially maybe possibly a Cosmic Goddess who eats universes.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Storm could be potentially maybe possibly a Cosmic Goddess who eats universes.
Did she say this on panel?

Because obviously that means it must be true. ermmhappy

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Did she say this on panel?

Because obviously that means it must be true. ermmhappy

Nah... but she would have in the next panel if a brick hadn't hit her in the back of the head. I know it.

Apocalypse is the strongest one of all. haermm

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Storm could be potentially maybe possibly a Cosmic Goddess who eats universes.

Yes...because that is just as relevant and as believable... just like a bullet could take out THO...

Oh wait. 😮

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Nah... but she would have in the next panel if a brick hadn't hit her in the back of the head. I know it.

Apocalypse is the strongest one of all. haermm

Well duh. I mean, she WAS confident that the brick wouldn't hurt her. I think it's safe to disregard any actual effect it had.

Hulk is the strongest one of all! Nobody can beat Hulk! ermmdur2