Pre-Crisis Validus versus Thanos

Started by darthgoober11 pages

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
1. So you're basically becoming a more literate clone of Quanchi? haermm

2. Was it Xmeat or someone else who tried to claim that? 😕


No I'm becoming a variation of nvr. Did you miss this part...

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Yes Thanos's career is all PIS. pretty much. wrapped it up in a nutshell.

The guy's trying to say that EVERY major feat preformed by Thanos since his inception is nothing more than PIS.

Originally posted by darthgoober
No I'm becoming a variation of nvr. Did you miss this part...

The guy's trying to say that EVERY major feat preformed by Thanos since his inception is nothing more than PIS.

I know you meant Nvr. But Quanchi has come out and claimed exactly what you just said. Hell, he said Power Gem Thor could beat the LSH.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I know you meant Nvr. But Quanchi has come out and claimed exactly what you just said. Hell, he said Power Gem Thor could beat the LSH.

Well I don't know a lot about the Legion, but unless they're pretty damn uber PG Thor could definitely take a quite a few of them at the same time. The guy DID take down Drax, Maxim, Surfer, Warlock, and Dr. Strange in the same fight.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Well I don't know a lot about the Legion, but unless they're pretty damn uber PG Thor could definitely take a quite a few of them at the same time. The guy DID take down Drax, Maxim, Surfer, Warlock, and Dr. Strange in the same fight.

Um.......I'm gonna pass this one to Validus if he's on. He's the expert on the Legion here.

And Quanchi meant the ENTIRE Legion. 🤨 That's over 50 heroes.......

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Why I haven't gotten these things is becuz it's a freaking debate forum and I'm entitled to my opinion. Or don't you think we should just all except things as status quo. what is the point of debate then? Huh? why not all just make a list and stick to it and leave the debates for those who have free thought. I think thanos's showings are pis. No Way Thanos can beat a full on going Thor, Gladiator, Beta Ray, Silver Surfer, and Jack of hearts the way Tyrant did. which means Tyrant was playing with Thanos or Jobbing hard. Odin should have left Thanos a stain. Period. nothing left to discuss on that one. And for you to say what the orb didn't or did do is speculative. We were never told what it did. All we know is Thanos required it to battle Tyrant.
its just that u hate marvel and claim thanos whole career is pis. that is one of the funniest biased statements i have ever heard. no one takes ur opinion serioulsy becuz u even admit ur biased as hell. thanos career is fantastic and superior than darkseids feats. call it what u will but thanos has done more in every way than darkseid. him taking on thor with power gem shows how powerful he is. case closed he beats validus.

Originally posted by quanchi112
its just that u hate marvel and claim thanos whole career is pis. that is one of the funniest biased statements i have ever heard. no one takes ur opinion serioulsy becuz u even admit ur biased as hell. thanos career is fantastic and superior than darkseids feats. call it what u will but thanos has done more in every way than darkseid. him taking on thor with power gem shows how powerful he is. case closed he beats validus.

^Case in point. See what I mean, Goober? 😛

Originally posted by darthgoober
Well I don't know a lot about the Legion, but unless they're pretty damn uber PG Thor could definitely take a quite a few of them at the same time. The guy DID take down Drax, Maxim, Surfer, Warlock, and Dr. Strange in the same fight.
Yes they're verrrrrrryyyyyyyyyy uber.

Originally posted by darthgoober
So basically what you're saying nvr, is that you're going to ignore f Thanos's ENTIRE history to keep him at the level you'd prefer he be? In that case...

1. I've decided that EVERY major feat of DS's is PIS and he's not really anymore than a mid herald level character.

2. And every strength feat that would put WW at anything over a class 90 or speed feat that is faster than the speed of sound is PIS too.

Now how reasonable where those two statements?

finally people are seeing how ridicuolus nvers claims are about thanos. he wants to discount his whole career. rewrite comics. and say darkseid is great and when thanos wins every single time its pis. IT REALLY IS THE WORST ARGUMENT I HAVE EVER HEARD. DISCOUNT SOMEONES WHOLE HISTORY. I CANT BELIEVE ITS REALLY BEING POSTED. its like me saying the only time to me to count darkseid is postcriis. that precriss stuff was so unreal and this is the real darkseid. that other stuff was pis and crap. we have to count things as they have always been written. if we dont we have n argument and are lost in our fantasy world of whats real and what isnt. but its the only way he can claim darkseid is superior is to say that doesnt count becuz he knows thanos to be that much more successful.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thanos has a few low showings. Like a black hole and smog taking him out. he isn't absolutely invulnerable so it's rediculous to think he can stand up to an angry Odin, tyrant or anyone skyfather lvl. just too much power.
He survived the black hole, actually I think he survived two in his career (not sure though, I'll check)...
Not to mention he has really no way to get out, like fliers... so...
Ya.

The smog was nano-bots attacking his insides, that Reed created that could practically make anything.
Not to forget of course, that it was Pre-Hat Thanos...

Galactus isn't completely invulnerable either, so I guess any Skyfather can take him out...
Your logic is absolute...

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
^Case in point. See what I mean, Goober? 😛
thats my opinion. i neevr said darkseids feats dont count and when he wins its pis.. its totally different. i talk of thanos being superior becuz i think he is. i dont think thanos would crush darkseid or anything but i do think him to be superior to him. dont compare me to a guy who just said thanos whole history is pis and it shouldnt count.

Originally posted by quanchi112
finally people are seeing how ridicuolus nvers claims are about thanos. he wants to discount his whole career. rewrite comics. and say darkseid is great and when thanos wins every single time its pis. IT REALLY IS THE WORST ARGUMENT I HAVE EVER HEARD. DISCOUNT SOMEONES WHOLE HISTORY. I CANT BELIEVE ITS REALLY BEING POSTED. its like me saying the only time to me to count darkseid is postcriis. that precriss stuff was so unreal and this is the real darkseid. that other stuff was pis and crap. we have to count things as they have always been written. if we dont we have n argument and are lost in our fantasy world of whats real and what isnt. but its the only way he can claim darkseid is superior is to say that doesnt count becuz he knows thanos to be that much more successful.
So one person agrees with you, and we're all owned? Yeah right. Thanos standing up to Odin is really, the greatest showing he's ever had. And the plausibility of that showing is questionable. Galactus had Thanos begging like a horny prison *****, and Tyrant was still superior even when Thanos had a power up. Pre-crisis showings still count for Ds. Hell, the guy has performed feats during post-crisis, that suggest he's still at that level. And I don't think Thanos would be that successful, if he had an ungodly powerful planet of skyfather level beings, on his ass.

Originally posted by starking
So one person agrees with you, and we're all owned? Yeah right. Thanos standing up to Odin is really, the greatest showing he's ever had. And the plausibility of that showing is questionable.
Actually... quanchi agreed with Darth...

I don't know about that, but I still don't see why people seem to think that the feat is questionable.
It hardly contradicts Thanos, or Odin, but yet, when other people do worse, it's liek omg teh gretest showin evah!

Because a lot of people on this board don't like Thanos, that brings his consistent feats into question?

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Actually... quanchi agreed with Darth...

I don't know about that, but I still don't see why people seem to think that the feat is questionable.
It hardly contradicts Thanos, or Odin, but yet, when other people do worse, it's liek omg teh gretest showin evah!

Because a lot of people on this board don't like Thanos, that brings his consistent feats into question?

I have a question for you. Do you think Odin was going all out on Thanos? Just curious.

Originally posted by starking
So one person agrees with you, and we're all owned? Yeah right. Thanos standing up to Odin is really, the greatest showing he's ever had. And the plausibility of that showing is questionable. Galactus had Thanos begging like a horny prison *****, and Tyrant was still superior even when Thanos had a power up. Pre-crisis showings still count for Ds. Hell, the guy has performed feats during post-crisis, that suggest he's still at that level. And I don't think Thanos would be that successful, if he had an ungodly powerful planet of skyfather level beings, on his ass.
ok first off i was respond to nver and his ever loving fanboyism of darkseid. its grown to the point where he calls thanos whole history pis. i was responding to that. and galctus wasnt begging. beging and fear is what darkseid did when his dad showed up. he was freaking out while desaad loved it. embarrassing you better believe it. thanos onwed all the delder of the universe and has beaten all the abstracts in his universe. when thanos wants to he conquers the uinverse. he wouldnt be content with just taking on the skyfathers hes more than that with prep. darkseid cant overcome his polar opposite. its not proven thanos had a power up with that orb. everytime something is speculation u always go against thanos. u say when he fought odin that odin was holding back. u always go against him. when its not proven. u pull for things, well cuz u have to. i dont blame u. and as regards to postcrisis those feats do count. darkseid isnt as powerful as he was back then. hes not invincible like kirby tried portraying him. he loses now. darkseid has changed and not for the better.

Originally posted by starking
I have a question for you. Do you think Odin was going all out on Thanos? Just curious.
odin was going all out. he wasnt holding back at all.

Originally posted by starking
I have a question for you. Do you think Odin was going all out on Thanos? Just curious.
No, but neither were though.
The thing is, Odin wanted to fight Thanos (and defend Asgard of Thanos), Thanos just wanted him to listen.

I also don't think either was really holding back though also.

I mean, it's not like Odin was toying with him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
ok first off i was respond to nver and his ever loving fanboyism of darkseid. its grown to the point where he calls thanos whole history pis. i was responding to that. and galctus wasnt begging. beging and fear is what darkseid did when his dad showed up. he was freaking out while desaad loved it. embarrassing you better believe it. thanos onwed all the delder of the universe and has beaten all the abstracts in his universe. when thanos wants to he conquers the uinverse. he wouldnt be content with just taking on the skyfathers hes more than that with prep. darkseid cant overcome his polar opposite. its not proven thanos had a power up with that orb. everytime something is speculation u always go against thanos. u say when he fought odin that odin was holding back. u always go against him. when its not proven. u pull for things, well cuz u have to. i dont blame u. and as regards to postcrisis those feats do count. darkseid isnt as powerful as he was back then. hes not invincible like kirby tried portraying him. he loses now. darkseid has changed and not for the better.
Did I say Galactus was begging? I said THANOS was begging, heck he even ran away from him. Darkseid being afraid Yuga Khan isn't that bad, it was HUGE suprise for Ds, and don't you think Thanos would be a little shacked up, if a being more powerful than him, showed up when he wasn't anticipating his arrival? I sure do. Besides Ds planned his way out of that, so that should be put to rest.

Originally posted by starking
Did I say Galactus was begging? I said THANOS was begging, heck he even ran away from him. Darkseid being afraid Yuga Khan isn't that bad, it was HUGE suprise for Ds, and don't you think Thanos would be a little shacked up, if a being more powerful than him, showed up when he wasn't anticipating his arrival? I sure do. Besides Ds planned his way out of that, so that should be put to rest.
he wasnt begging. get over it.. darkseid wasnt shocked by yuga khan. do ur homewrok, he knew he was free from the source wall and that he was coming. please if even i know that its sad that u dont. when did darkseid plan his way outta what. yuga khan is his own worst enemy. darksied is the fearful son. nothing more to daddy.

read the issue with yuga khan or have someone scan it for u. cuz if u think darkseid didnt know he was coming then u obvioulsy havent read it.

What the hell does Yuga Khan scaring Darkseid have to do with a fight? What if Galactus, was afraid of a being more powerful than himself? Does that mean Thanos can beat him, because he's braver. Hell, Darkseid has stood up to the Spectre, somebody who would assrape Odin, but you don't see me using that, as an excuse to talk my way out of a debate. I guess characters who fear characters more powerful than themselfs, are all pussies, right?

Let me use your retarded logic. Thanos was shocked(which is the same thing as being scared) when he saw Adam Warlock's ghost. I could start using Thanos losing to a character he already defeated as a excuse, but I don't, because IT'S WEAK.

You can be the bravest person on the face of the earth, but do you honestly think that will help you, if a bear attacked you or something? Nope, your ass will be ripped apart. Fear is a natural trait among living beings. It's not like Darkseid's some coward who wusses out on every fight. I mean for christ sake's, it was his FATHER.

Your arguement is nothing but a cheap excuse, to take attention off of the topic. Unless Thanos has greater power feats, then he is not taking out Validus, let alone Darkseid himself.