The Son Of Man.

Who is the Son of man?
Let us look what the bible say.
The bible says that God calls his word/spoken word, THE SON OF GOD.
If God calls his word/voice of words, His Son, what would you then call the voice of words of human??
It is so simple a grade 5 can understand this; you will call your voice of words THE SON OF MAN.
We have followed the lie; we said Jesus the visible man = the Son of God, which is a blatant lie. However that was our mission to believe the lie to the glory of God Almighty.
twe followed Lusifer the bearer of light/word of God.
the meaning of Lucifer is; bearer of light or bearer of the word of God.
Jesus said he is the morning star.

Why would you believe in the bible? 😕

Julius Caesar was the Morning Star before Jesus.

Talk about a shallow rip-off.

We are all the sons of god since we came from that source what ever you want to call it. BTW the Morning Star is referring to Venus actually. The symbolic meaning for Venus is love.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Why would you believe in the bible? 😕

the bible has been proven to be true as an example;
jesus said he came to bring confusion and fire, not peace. nobody can dispute that this is not true.
one other thing; you get what you ask for, you also become what you say.

Originally posted by johannes
the bible has been proven to be true as an example;
jesus said he came to bring confusion and fire, not peace. nobody can dispute that this is not true.
one other thing; you get what you ask for, you also become what you say.

Many things in the bible have been disproved.

Originally posted by johannes
the bible has been proven to be true as an example;
jesus said he came to bring confusion and fire, not peace. nobody can dispute that this is not true.
one other thing; you get what you ask for, you also become what you say.

Interesting... are you saying that Jesus was actually Satan? That he came to deceive us?

Originally posted by johannes
the bible has been proven to be true as an example;
jesus said he came to bring confusion and fire, not peace. nobody can dispute that this is not true.
one other thing; you get what you ask for, you also become what you say.

One thing i have always thought to be interesting . In the Bible it said that Jesus impressed the Rabbis with his knowledge of the Torah(old Testament) And New Testament said that Jesus was the fulfilment of prophecy because he lived up to all the prophetic writing i.e. riding into town on an Ass with the palm etc. Well wouldn't Jesus be very understanding of what it would take to fulfil the prophecies and just make sure to do everything that he had read about to make sure he was seen as the Messiah?

Originally posted by Versyn Gaul
One thing i have always thought to be interesting . In the Bible it said that Jesus impressed the Rabbis with his knowledge of the Torah(old Testament) And New Testament said that Jesus was the fulfilment of prophecy because he lived up to all the prophetic writing i.e. riding into town on an Ass with the palm etc. Well wouldn't Jesus be very understanding of what it would take to fulfil the prophecies and just make sure to do everything that he had read about to make sure he was seen as the Messiah?

We don't really know what Jesus did or didn't do, because nothing was written down for 60 to 90 years later. That is like no one writing anything about the JFK assassination until now. We would probably not get it right and conspiracy ideas would be written as fact.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Many things in the bible have been disproved.

like? two or three things.

Originally posted by johannes
like? two or three things.

is that, like, really a challenge? to actually come up with only two or three things that the bible is wrong about?

Originally posted by johannes
like? two or three things.

If even one thing is not true, then it is not a book of absolute truth.

Originally posted by johannes
the bible has been proven to be true as an example;
jesus said he came to bring confusion and fire, not peace. nobody can dispute that this is not true.
one other thing; you get what you ask for, you also become what you say.

that damn near made my head explode. I'm at a loss for words...

"proven true......example...."

he then goes on to list something supposedly said by a being that has never been proven to have even existed........and tops it off with "nobody can dispute that this is not true".

Jesus Christ on a stick.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
We don't really know what Jesus did or didn't do, because nothing was written down for 60 to 90 years later. That is like no one writing anything about the JFK assassination until now. We would probably not get it right and conspiracy ideas would be written as fact.

Which strengthens my case further that fulfilling prophecy with the knowledge after the fact is not fulfilling prophecy . So (In regard to your comment ) the apostles could have simply wrote that in. I think all should believe all have the right to see God as they choose but, it kills me when people say the Bible is irrefutable proof. Its blows my mind

Originally posted by Versyn Gaul
Which strengthens my case further that fulfilling prophecy with the knowledge after the fact is not fulfilling prophecy . So (In regard to your comment ) the apostles could have simply wrote that in. I think all should believe all have the right to see God as they choose but, it kills me when people say the Bible is irrefutable proof. Its blows my mind

Well, if you want to get people to join your new church, telling stories about miracles will do it.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
Jesus Christ on a stick.

Originally posted by 2D_MASTER
Interesting... are you saying that Jesus was actually Satan? That he came to deceive us?

well this will bring an uproar; the human = the devil, his spirit = Satan.
when Judas took the sop from Jesus the Satan entered into him immediately. the sop that Jesus gave him is a symbol of the so-called Lords supper which is a symbol of the visible. the meaning of the word sop = to bribe someone. therefore you can read it; jesus gave judas a bribe and judas took the bribe and as a result the satan entered into him and that is how satan were born. the purpose of Jesus was to deceive the "stupid" human to take the bribe/ the deceiving fruit in a manner that the human became the guilty one and not God. you were part of these decisions before you came to earth.

God have seven spirits of which six belongs to Satan created on earth and from the perseption.
Satan is the spirit of mortals and the spirit of all visible things. the idea to create the devil/human was to give the visible things spirit in other words to make them alive. once this is done the devil/human will disappear for ever.

we are currently in the second heaven the heaven of imagination.
the first heaven is for the senses. the next heaven is the third heaven where we will recieve an immortal body together with the quickening spirit that will keep you alive for ever. you will have the perfect atoms which will keep itself alive.

if I had said "Jesus titty f-cking christ"...........would you have posted a pic for that aswell?

ps. If you find one, please share it with me......even by PM if necissary.

Originally posted by johannes
well this will bring an uproar; the human = the devil, his spirit = Satan.
when Judas took the sop from Jesus the Satan entered into him immediately. the sop that Jesus gave him is a symbol of the so-called Lords supper which is a symbol of the visible. the meaning of the word sop = to bribe someone. therefore you can read it; jesus gave judas a bribe and judas took the bribe and as a result the satan entered into him and that is how satan were born. the purpose of Jesus was to deceive the "stupid" human to take the bribe/ the deceiving fruit in a manner that the human became the guilty one and not God. you were part of these decisions before you came to earth.

God have seven spirits of which six belongs to Satan created on earth and from the perseption.
Satan is the spirit of mortals and the spirit of all visible things. the idea to create the devil/human was to give the visible things spirit in other words to make them alive. once this is done the devil/human will disappear for ever.

we are currently in the second heaven the heaven of imagination.
the first heaven is for the senses. the next heaven is the third heaven where we will recieve an immortal body together with the quickening spirit that will keep you alive for ever. you will have the perfect atoms which will keep itself alive.

This is interesting. You have blended several beliefs together for form your ideas.

Originally posted by Devil King

the thruth is you are the stick. you are the cross, your body are and you die on this cross, you are the one suffering. what you see on the stick is in fact an mirrored image of yourself of how you have suffered and bear sickness, pain and death. if we preach that the one we proclaim to have bear all our sickness and pain, then the question is for onstance; when did he suffer a motor accident, or when did he had aids or cancer?
but you and me did suffer, you are the body of Christ who had been sold to suffer insted of ......