Originally posted by johannes
i didnt say i am a prophet, i didnt say i am better than anybody else, how can i be if i bear the same cross/body than you?
in fact i am many times ashamed of myself.
however, the bible is a prophetic book and once you can decipher the mirrored images, hypothesis, and parables you can understand the prophesies of the bible.
The bible is not a prophetic book, and you have not deciphered anything.
Originally posted by johannes
70% of the people in south africa are christians, there is no indigoes religions anymore.
What a shame! That is one of the things I do not like about Christianity; they have destroyed so much.
Originally posted by johannes
i dont mind to be the one who are asleep. but why do you say that?
I was being sarcastic.
Originally posted by johannes
i an happy if you could find something with which you relate. there is a lot more to say and to discuss about his. if there is something specific you want to ask or know you are welcome to ask. johan.
I didn't say I beleived you, because I do not beleive in Christianity at all, but I do admire your independent nature of taking a legend and making your own intepretation of it, rather than following someone else's.
Also your theory is one that I never heard of before, it is QUITE original.
Originally posted by johannes
where in the world is Bodhisattva, it seems like a place in south africa which we call pofadder, nobody really knows where it is.
Bodhisattva is not a country, town, or physical locale. It is a Buddhist Concept, part of the Concept of The Ten Worlds.
Hell is the lowest world on Earth, it can be a mental world as well as a physical world. Hell is any place, time, or state in which you suffer greatly for no justified reason (i.e. heartbreak, loss of a loved one, death of a family member, a moment of torture, etc.)
Heaven is the 6th world on Earth, it can be a mental world as well as a physical world. Heaven is any place, time, or state in which you experience intense joy for some particular reason (i.e. being in love, having a child, getting rich, etc.)
Both of those worlds are dependent on external circumstances. Both of those worlds can lead to a cycle of suffering.
Bodhisvattva is the world before the final world of Buddhahood. It is a mental/emotional state of being in which we care more for the happiness and safety of overs than for our own happiness and safety. It is one of the highest realms possible.
We experience these worlds all the time in our lives. You do not have to be Buddhist to experience the world of Bodhisvattva. But you do have to be Buddhist to experience Buddhahood....which in simplified version, is permanent Bodhisvattva.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
...We experience these worlds all the time in our lives. You do not have to be Buddhist to experience the world of Bodhisvattva. But you do have to be Buddhist to experience Buddhahood....which in simplified version, is permanent Bodhisvattva.
I don't think you have to be a Buddhist to experience Buddhahood. All living things and non-living things experience the ten worlds.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't think you have to be a Buddhist to experience Buddhahood. All living things and non-living things experience the ten worlds.
To stay in Buddhahood, however takes practice.
The states from Hell to Bodhisattva are collectively termed "the nine worlds." This expression is often used in contrast to the tenth world, the enlightened state of Buddhahood.
Buddhahood -- Buddhahood is a dynamic state that is difficult to describe. We can partially describe it as a state of perfect freedom, in which we are enlightened to the ultimate truth of life. It is characterized by infinite compassion and boundless wisdom. In this state, we can resolve harmoniously what appear from the standpoint of the nine worlds to be insoluble contradictions. A Buddhist sutra describes the attributes of the Buddha’s life as a true self, perfect freedom from karmic bonds throughout eternity, a life purified of illusion, and absolute happiness. Also, the state of Buddhahood is physically expressed in the Bodhisattva Way or actions of a Bodhisattva.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
To stay in Buddhahood, however takes practice.The states from Hell to Bodhisattva are collectively termed "the nine worlds." This expression is often used in contrast to the tenth world, the enlightened state of Buddhahood.
Buddhahood -- Buddhahood is a dynamic state that is difficult to describe. We can partially describe it as a state of perfect freedom, in which we are enlightened to the ultimate truth of life. It is characterized by infinite compassion and boundless wisdom. In this state, we can resolve harmoniously what appear from the standpoint of the nine worlds to be insoluble contradictions. A Buddhist sutra describes the attributes of the Buddha’s life as a true self, perfect freedom from karmic bonds throughout eternity, a life purified of illusion, and absolute happiness. Also, the state of Buddhahood is physically expressed in the Bodhisattva Way or actions of a Bodhisattva.
Yes, it does take effort and practice, and some people may never experience Buddhahood. However, in the Lotus sutra, Buddha explains that even the lowest demon in the depths of hell will gain buddhahood one day.
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I didn't say I beleived you, because I do not beleive in Christianity at all, but I do admire your independent nature of taking a legend and making your own intepretation of it, rather than following someone else's.Also your theory is one that I never heard of before, it is QUITE original.
Bodhisattva is not a country, town, or physical locale. It is a Buddhist Concept, part of the Concept of The Ten Worlds.
Hell is the lowest world on Earth, it can be a mental world as well as a physical world. Hell is any place, time, or state in which you suffer greatly for no justified reason (i.e. heartbreak, loss of a loved one, death of a family member, a moment of torture, etc.)
Heaven is the 6th world on Earth, it can be a mental world as well as a physical world. Heaven is any place, time, or state in which you experience intense joy for some particular reason (i.e. being in love, having a child, getting rich, etc.)
Both of those worlds are dependent on external circumstances. Both of those worlds can lead to a cycle of suffering.
Bodhisvattva is the world before the final world of Buddhahood. It is a mental/emotional state of being in which we care more for the happiness and safety of overs than for our own happiness and safety. It is one of the highest realms possible.
We experience these worlds all the time in our lives. You do not have to be Buddhist to experience the world of Bodhisvattva. But you do have to be Buddhist to experience Buddhahood....which in simplified version, is permanent Bodhisvattva.
this is not far away from what i believe. however, i believe there had to be different "prophets" to fulfill everything, i always believed that.
i also believe that each one of us find his place and space. even tne whore, the thief, the murderer and the preacher had to be there. i will chech this site.
Originally posted by johannes
this is not far away from what i believe. however, i believe there had to be different "prophets" to fulfill everything, i always believed that.
i also believe that each one of us find his place and space. even tne whore, the thief, the murderer and the preacher had to be there. i will chech this site.
Well, Buddhism helps me shape my beliefs, and the Ten Worlds can be applicable to any situation and any religion. I do not beleive in a literal mythological version of Heaven and Hell, but I do beleive in the philosophical versions of Heaven and Hell...
You basically have your world of intense agony, and your world of intense joy. Everyone has experienced both. Everyone can relate. There is nothing exclusive about the Buddhist Concept of Heaven and Hell, the way Christianity's versions are exclusive.
However, what many fail to realize is that those worlds are both fragile, and dependent on other forces. Niether of them are self-created, in fact, we have to lose ourselves in order to live in those worlds.
They exist with our permission, but we do not create those realms for ourselves. We only walk the paths to the realms.
When we "create our own Hell" we surround ourself in suffering. We may cause suffering, or allow ourselves to suffer over things that are not worth suffering over. However, the suffering we experience is created by external factors which we give power to.
Same with Heaven...we seek out pleasures, we depend on other people, we plan certain desirable outcomes, and when things go our way we experience intense happiness. However, that happiness is fragile, and can be short-lived, because the happiness is completely dependent on and only fueled by the object of our passion.
Bodhisvattva is the realm in which we look past ourselves....for we already realize the truth of Heaven and Hell, we realize that we have control over our paths and may enter and leave those worlds as we wish, and then we only desire for others to find the same freedom we have.
Bodhisvattva is something we all experience, because we have all cared about the happiness and safety of another person more than our own, at one time or another.
Originally posted by Quiero Mota
What the hell is"Buddhahood"?
Please read:
I was also a seeker of the truth but couldent find it in “church”; intelligence tells you about so many lies. I’ll mention one; the bible says only man was in the garden in Eden and only man was driven out of this garden, while the “church” preaches that both was in the garden and both were driven out of the garden. Of-cause this is a lie!! But we preach the lie because we don’t understand the bible. I decided to study the bible for myself to find out; is it true or just a nice story. I have studied and meditatet on the bible for more than twenty years before I’ve voiced myself in the atmosphere.
We must remember; the human is a spiritual factory producing spirit all the time and this spirit is like rain, the water goes up and comes down in a rain. We can determine what the rain should be like by changing our beliefs.
I firstly want to say; church with all it fasets had to be and also a variety of beliefs. The next thing I want to say is; the bible actualy agrees that religion is a man made thing. Further the bible says that this whole thing about Jesus is only an imaginary thing that don’t realy exist. I want to explain something but in the least words possible for people don’t want to read long posts, because everybody has “already his church, his belief and his religion” and the most people read with the preprogrammed idea to reject it in anyway.
Let us start with the following; there was a previous universe, which was infertile, it could not create diversity, the female half/atoms was lifeless and in fact was slowly dying. This in fact meant that the whole universe woul eventually die. Previously the male and female atoms kept each other alive.
The bible says the wife/female told the husband/male that she is incapable of creating children. For this reason the big bang followed. The bible explains it that the visible dust floating in space were suck into a vacume like a huge tornado which eventiouly became top heavy and fell over from north to south and burst open in the midst of space.
This resulted into the forming of different planets etc as we see it today. By way of this explosion the male and female atoms fused together and became fertile to produce the life we know today. It started with alge and eventually led to the animal and to human. The bible is clear it was a prosess of evulution.
The problem was with the opening of the eye, human at this stage still more animal became aware of things around itself and a new soirit was born called Cain or Satan the evil one. Yealousy started, I think you can understand what else, hunting of each other etc.
It was a wild wild world. This evil spirit were created out of the visible, before there was eyes there were no fear, no yealousy and so forth.
But; why and what is the purpose of this cruel world? The purpose was to give the dying female her spirit back and to make her fertile to bear different “things”. The universe/God is still busy creating itself.
How did the female received life? By way of the creatures born on/from her, first grass then animal and eventually human. The only way to give something spirit is by way of worship. You might know for instance of people who worshipped the moon, the sun the mountains etc. the word Sunday comes from the worshippers of the sun and Monday from the moon worshippers. We don’t realize what impact these things have to change the universe.
The idea was to create spirit for the female half and when that is done the heaven and earth will fuse together as one living being according to the bible.
To create the human to do this worship, the first thing was to create the senses by way of the so-called commandments. Animals are co-creators of angels and spirit for instance a dog would co-create hearing for they are better equipped than human but you will enjou this in the next third heaven. The senses are in the first heaven while the soul, the spirit of imagination is the second heaven, where we are now.
The next thing to develop was the imagination. This was acoumplised by giving us the hypothesis of Jesus. He was the sixth and sevent and eight king according to the bible and everybody who follows him goes to perdition , the bible say. To go to perdition or to hell as church preach is realy a simple understanding; from the minute you are born you start to “burn in hell”, you get old and die and return to dust. We are in hell, God only mad two places, heaven and hell a phicical place were the soul suffers. The meaning of hell = a place where the soul suffers. The spirit of the visible = the soul of God. God have seven spirits of which six were created on earth, out of earth from the persetion, namely the five senses and the spirit of imagination.
These six spirits = Satan God of the visible, God of the mortals, mortals worship mortal things. Satan were created out of the visible by way of all creatures on earth and therefore He is God and still is your God.
An important or the most important thing was, to create a perfect body forGod/human. This was done by way of the Jesus project; we were given the hypothesis of a perfect person who loved us so much, he gave his life and we must worship/glorify this man. But this whole thing is just a picture of yourself, you in fact glorify a new body for yourself in the next life. We can say; Christian kissed the body of Jesus and muslem kissed earth and food to make that perfect and to give it life. There is amny more religions who played a big role to acoumplish this.
Imagination and the new body were created by way of the beast out of the earth; those of you who know the scriptures will know about this beast that came out of the earth and the bible says all humans followed this beast and said; he is God who can fight him etc.
This is a hypothesis of Jesus coming out of the grave/coming up out of the earth on the third human day. These things are all just imagination and didn’t really happen the way we preach it. The bible says this beast walked earth for 42 months, the time of Jesus’ preaching. The bible says; we followed this beast who had the sword wound and lived; Jesus received this sword wound on the cross, died and came up from the grave/out of the earth on the third day.
The bible says about this beast; it also made fire came from the heaven. Fire is the symbol of an earthly spirit and in piticular the so-called Holy Ghost according to Acts. Further the bible says; the beast that thou saw was, and is not, although he is. This then clearly says that this episode about Jesus was only an imaginary figure to create certain impotant things.
The important thing however is; by following this beast we created imagination, because we never saw this happening we only imagined it to be. Many of you will know what came from this imagination about Jesus from the church for instance, but also because of imagination we imagined to go to the moon and we did etc. however he does exist for those who believe/imagine him.
Why did we preach that Jesus died for all our sickness and pain etc? we have preaced that to call it into existence. The question however is; if he died for our sickness and pain, why do we have sickness and pain?
The answer is; you are this Jesus who came to earth and became flesh/in a fleshly body and it is in fact you who now suffer and die for pain and sickness and death. The bible says there were an election in heaven about this mission and you were the elected, you chose to come and die for your friends in “heaven” so everyone will have eternal life without sickness or death. There is no bigger love than this and you shoul all be proud of yourselves.
There is a lot more to say but I want to make it as short as possible.
For those whom are interested to read the full revelation, it is 300 pages, be warned can go to this addres;
http://www.johannes-erasmus.blogspot.com/ .
I would advice to read it from the beginnig otherwise you miht not understand it.
Johan.