Is Life Just Chemistry?

Started by JesusIsAlive13 pages
Originally posted by King Kandy
How do you know that? It doesn't say in the article.

http://www.edwardwillett.com/Columns/manmadelife.htm

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
http://www.edwardwillett.com/Columns/manmadelife.htm

That article says they manufactured their own genes... They only used the organisms genes for testing.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
http://www.edwardwillett.com/Columns/manmadelife.htm

from the site:

The first step of the project will be to create an artificial chromosome (the structure that holds genes in place in the nucleus of a cell) packed with about 300 manufactured genes, based on the essential genes discovered in 1999. The scientists will then place the artificial chromosome in the nucleus of an M. genitalium bacterium whose own genetic material has been removed. If the experiment works, the new cell will be able to divide and produce a new generation of cells, all of which will contain the new man-made genetic instructions.

Originally posted by AngryManatee
from the site:

The first step of the project will be to create an artificial chromosome (the structure that holds genes in place in the nucleus of a cell) packed with about 300 manufactured genes, based on the essential genes discovered in 1999. The scientists will then place the artificial chromosome in the nucleus of an M. genitalium bacterium whose own genetic material has been removed. If the experiment works, the new cell will be able to divide and produce a new generation of cells, all of which will contain the new man-made genetic instructions.

They are still using preexistent material as I have previously stated. They are using the Mycoplasma genitalium cell.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
They are [b]still using preexistent material as I have previously stated. They are using the Mycoplasma genitalium cell [/B]

So, if we could reanimate a dead body, you would say that it was alive to begin with?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
They are [b]still using preexistent material as I have previously stated. They are using the Mycoplasma genitalium cell. [/B]

Yeah, for testing and hosting.

The lifeform itself is 100% artificial.

And anyway, even if this isn't artificial life by your definition, you have to admit that it IS a huge step in the right direction.

As I said before, it's only the beginning JIA.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, if we could reanimate a dead body, you would say that it was alive to begin with?

Creating life means just that: creating life (i.e. creating a complicated organsim from nothing like God did), which Dr. Venter and his myriad of colleagues have not done.

and we're getting ever so much closer

This artificial bacteria is a step in the right direction... We're getting closer every day.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Creating life means just that: creating life (i.e. creating a complicated organsim from nothing like God did), which Dr. Venter and his myriad of colleagues have not done.
For you even if they crated everything from nothing you still wouldn't believe because it was done in a lab. The point is with every try and new experiment they get closer and closer removing one important step after another which gets them closer. You do not build the entire house without building the foundation and walls first, once you have these it is still not a house but the first steps to building one.

Originally posted by King Kandy
This artificial bacteria is a step in the right direction... We're getting closer every day.

It will never happen.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It will never happen.
Yes it will, maybe not in my life time or maybe not even in yours but it will.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It will never happen.

And when it does happen, what will you do then?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
And when it does happen, what will you do then?
Deny it as normal or come up with some other thing to BS about. 😉

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Yes it will, maybe not in my life time or maybe not even in yours but it will.

We also thought we would never map the human genome in our life time.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
We also thought we would never map the human genome in our life time.
That's why I said maybe, all it takes is someone to get inspired and it opens up a floodgate of new idea. I would love to see it in my life time. 🙂

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
That's why I said maybe, all it takes is someone to get inspired and it opens up a floodgate of new idea. I would love to see it in my life time. 🙂

Don't go playing in the street tomorrow then. 😉

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Don't go playing in the street tomorrow then. 😉
roadkill

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Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
roadkill

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