Originally posted by starking
How so?
Becuz when ever the new Gods too awesome feats.people on this board say it's out of context or symbolic. Like when the very presence of Darksied was enough to destroy planets and when highfather and darksied shook the cosmos fighting. or when Darksied and Orion tapped the source and fought all over existance. It's all "taken out of context" or symbolic, tho it never implies that on the page.
Originally posted by starkingive been looking in the respect threads and cant find the one with infifnity man. tel l me which page its on in the respect threads, even if jack kirby said they are equals which he didnt. darksied isnt his character anymore and i wouldnt want someone whom kirby thought was that powerful as galactus as u say getting crushed by supes. they arent even close in power. alactus was meant from the beginning as more powerful than darkseid. look at hgis feats when he destroys galaxies its on panel but when darkseid does its symbollic. i saw darkseid and orion clash before and i cant remember gaalxies being shattered. why cuz its symbollic is all.
Oh, I want to point something out, Jack Kirby said Ds and Galactus, were equals. While Ds hasn't destroyed galaxies, there are a few feats of his, that may possibly, put him on that level.
Originally posted by quanchi112The Infinity man respect thread, is on comixtreme. And to point one thing out, Ds is currently, not that guy who losses to Superman, for recently, he soloed Firestorm, Orion, and Mr.Miracle.
ive been looking in the respect threads and cant find the one with infifnity man. tel l me which page its on in the respect threads, even if jack kirby said they are equals which he didnt. darksied isnt his character anymore and i wouldnt want someone whom kirby thought was that powerful as galactus as u say getting crushed by supes. they arent even close in power. alactus was meant from the beginning as more powerful than darkseid. look at hgis feats when he destroys galaxies its on panel but when darkseid does its symbollic. i saw darkseid and orion clash before and i cant remember gaalxies being shattered. why cuz its symbollic is all.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlIt's pretty believable, I mean Ds DID cause agony, upon the Source.
Becuz when ever the new Gods too awesome feats.people on this board say it's out of context or symbolic. Like when the very presence of Darksied was enough to destroy planets and when highfather and darksied shook the cosmos fighting. or when Darksied and Orion tapped the source and fought all over existance. It's all "taken out of context" or symbolic, tho it never implies that on the page.
Originally posted by starkingyes but he has on more than one occasion gotten his ass kicked and badly by superman. no jla just supes. i hope ur not tryin to say the supes losses dont count and we can only count his voctory over those three in countdown. i hope not.
The Infinity man respect thread, is on comixtreme. And to point one thing out, Ds is currently, not that guy who losses to Superman, for recently, he soloed Firestorm, Orion, and Mr.Miracle.
Originally posted by quanchi112
i have seen orion and darkseid fight. the planet reamined in tact. until its shown on panel as galactus feats have u cant count it. its symbollic and isnt shown on panel.
It's not symbolic. No where on the panel when Darksied is causing the death of planets by his very presence is it said to be "symbolic". ANsd when DS and highfather shook the cosmos, it wasn't symbolic.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlyes it is symbolic. why else do u think when has battled either orion or highfather nothing was ebing shaken. if u cant see that it is symbollic that is to funny. hasnt been shown on panel and while they have fought the planet surprisingly has remained in tact. 😆
It's not symbolic. No where on the panel when Darksied is causing the death of planets by his very presence is it said to be "symbolic". ANsd when DS and highfather shook the cosmos, it wasn't symbolic.
Originally posted by quanchi112
yes it is symbolic. why else do u think when has battled either orion or highfather nothing was ebing shaken. if u cant see that it is symbollic that is to funny. hasnt been shown on panel and while they have fought the planet surprisingly has remained in tact. 😆
The planet is above any normal planets. of course it would still stand.
Originally posted by starking
How so?
Because character standing from their conception means little, even if they were created by the same person.
Galactus isn't the same guy he was when Kirby created him, and Darkseid isn't the same guy he was when Kirby created him.
Creator sentiments mean nothing when the characters they create have been fleshed out in many different ways throughout the years.
And it's not Marvel bias Nvr, it's logic.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Because character standing from their conception means little, even if they were created by the same person.Galactus isn't the same guy he was when Kirby created him, and Darkseid isn't the same guy he was when Kirby created him.
Creator sentiments mean nothing when the characters they create have been fleshed out in many different ways throughout the years.
And it's not Marvel bias Nvr, it's logic.
It's not my logic. It's DC's. The time stream started to collapse becuz Darksied was so powerful that it caused ripples in time. Nvr didn't write that book. Nvr didn't make the source protect DS from death becuz if he leaves the cosmos, it falls into chaos. And NVr isn't the one who made DS be able to reach into the Firestorm Matrix, and pull out the professor. Thanks for bringing me up in a convo that I was not part of.
Quanchi11..................wtf man?!
You give the NG Black Racer, and access to their tech, but won't allow Galactus access to his greatest weapon?
Galactus and heralds lose, unless you take the BR out of the contest, and allow Galactus to be fed and Tyrant to be at full power.
They can win a few there, but without the UN, the Gods get all their various shonenjump type boxes to one up the last.
Mods, close this thread
Originally posted by UniOmni
Quanchi11..................wtf man?!You give the NG Black Racer, and access to their tech, but won't allow Galactus access to his greatest weapon?
Galactus and heralds lose, unless you take the BR out of the contest, and allow Galactus to be fed and Tyrant to be at full power.
They can win a few there, but without the UN, the Gods get all their various shonenjump type boxes to one up the last.
Mods, close this thread
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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's not my logic. It's DC's. The time stream started to collapse becuz Darksied was so powerful that it caused ripples in time. Nvr didn't write that book. Nvr didn't make the source protect DS from death becuz if he leaves the cosmos, it falls into chaos. And NVr isn't the one who made DS be able to reach into the Firestorm Matrix, and pull out the professor. Thanks for bringing me up in a convo that I was not part of.
This has already been debunked.
The Time stream collapsed because Darkseid is so important, not because he's so powerful.
Get it straight.
Without someone there to take his place, the universe will always unravel.
It's not his power, it's his role.
And i made the remark to you, merely because you said people who don't take the intentions of Kirby about his creations seriously are biased against the New Gods.
Which is a weak stance anyway you cut it.
Originally posted by UniOmni
This has already been debunked.The Time stream collapsed because Darkseid is so important, not because he's so powerful.
Get it straight.
Without someone there to take his place, the universe will always unravel.
It's not his power, it's his role.And i made the remark to you, merely because you said people who don't take the intentions of Kirby about his creations seriously are biased against the New Gods.
Which is a weak stance anyway you cut it.
I dont' care about Kirby's intentions. And the panel says that the time stream collapses becuz you can't remove someone As POWERFUL as DS from it. It didn't say a darn thing about his role. Don't get it twisted. I remember that part of the story.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont' care about Kirby's intentions. And the panel says that the time stream collapses becuz you can't remove someone As POWERFUL as DS from it. It didn't say a darn thing about his role. Don't get it twisted. I remember that part of the story.
And yet when he was destroyed at the hands of Orion, nothing such happened.....
Wanna know why?
The role of Darkseid was filled.
It ain't hard no tell man.
Originally posted by UniOmni
And yet when he was destroyed at the hands of Orion, nothing such happened.....Wanna know why?
The role of Darkseid was filled.
It ain't hard no tell man.
No you are missing the point. HE was REMOVED From the time stream all together. Thus causing time to collapse. Not destroyed by Orion. That is something all together different. And it's also Orion's role to be able to kill him. Kinda like Drax and Thanos.
Originally posted by quanchi112What the are you talking about? Orion and Darkseid, have destroyed a bunch of planets, in one of their fights. It's obvious your thinking of something else, because if weren't, then you would've known for sure, that it WASN'T symbolic.
i have seen orion and darkseid fight. the planet reamined in tact. until its shown on panel as galactus feats have u cant count it. its symbollic and isnt shown on panel.