Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Doesn't matter what you are spouting. High Father and Darksied take Galactus. Takion and Stayne take Tyrant. ANd I already listed my match ups for the heralds. Now how do you address this? You can't. You are basically being rediculous.
This is why people don't like you.
You disregard what everyone else says that doesn't jibe with your skewed view on things, and just rant and rave.
You're bringing up New Gods like the hercules/tarzan analogue as proof of the power of the NGs, and it doesn't matter because none of them have power enough to stop Morg or Terrax, let alone Stardust or Surfer.
What happens to the fodder New Gods when Stardust opens a blackhole on New Genesis? They die, and the numbers fall insanely fast.
Takion and Stayne beat Tyrant because you say so, amirite?
Tyrant, who at fullpower changed the landscape of the universe in his fight with Galactus?
Please.
Highfather and Darkseid beat Galactus because you say so as well, correct?
What happens when Darkseid tries to OE Galactus, and his OE is promptly overpowered and reflected back into his face? He drops, out of the match.
Highfather vs Galactus is going to basically be Highfather vs Yuga Khan, and we know how that went.
Stardust, Terrax and Morg would murder Lightray, Kalibak, Desaad, the Furies and their Granny, and multiple other fodder gods.
Devilance? The guy who lost his head to Lobo?
And the premieres are dealt with.
Orion vs Surfer is anyones game to win, but even if he wins, he loses to Galactus or Tyrant within seconds.
Outside of the notables, which New Gods are going to stop Terrax, let alone premiere heralds?
Answer me that.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
At Skyfather? Several. Above it? Possibly Darkseid, Highfather. Definitely Yuga Khan. Metron with the 'gog and his chair.
First.
Skyfather isn't a level. It's merely a position. There is no definite cut off point for skyfathers.
Who might be above Skyfather?
Darkseid?
Nope, as the current leader of Apok's branch of NG, he's squarely skyfather in position, above the top tier in power.
Highfather? Same as Darkseid, virtual equals.
Yuga Khan?
Perhaps, since he's an analogue of the Celestials.
Metron?
Possibly, but he doesn't come standard with the Worloggog.
The Moebius Chair is part and parcel tho.
To be honest, i don't think Metron makes a difference here.
At a battle like this, he'd make a cryptic comment and blink out, as do other characters of his type.
So aside from the skyfathers i named, and Yuga who is above most conventional gods, who is "above skyfather level in powah?"
And Aunt May, Rom, Dazzler, Uncle Ben, Master Of Guile, Thor, Saberooth, and an army of Surfer level beings.
If we're just talking about 616, then:
Galactus
Tyrant
Surfer
Stardust
Morg
Terrax
Firelord
Dazzler
Nova
Johnny Storm
Rom
Red Shift
Destroyer
Air Walker
Fallen One
Alpha Ray Bill
Galactus Cats
And, an army of Surfer level beings.
Plus, his World ship, and all his other ships (it does say all his creations does it not?).
Just so you know...
Originally posted by UniOmni
To be honest, i don't think Metron makes a difference here.At a battle like this, he'd make a cryptic comment and blink out, as do other characters of his type.
Yeah but the fun part is when (at the eleventh hour, as per the rules set down in the 6th council of mysterious individuals) the skys begin to boil and cavalry arrives to utterly pwn everybody.
😕 I should get a hobby.
Originally posted by UniOmni
This is why people don't like you.You disregard what everyone else says that doesn't jibe with your skewed view on things, and just rant and rave.
You're bringing up New Gods like the hercules/tarzan analogue as proof of the power of the NGs, and it doesn't matter because none of them have power enough to stop Morg or Terrax, let alone Stardust or Surfer.
What happens to the fodder New Gods when Stardust opens a blackhole on New Genesis? They die, and the numbers fall insanely fast.
Takion and Stayne beat Tyrant because you say so, amirite?
Tyrant, who at fullpower changed the landscape of the universe in his fight with Galactus?
Please.
Highfather and Darkseid beat Galactus because you say so as well, correct?
What happens when Darkseid tries to OE Galactus, and his OE is promptly overpowered and reflected back into his face? He drops, out of the match.
Highfather vs Galactus is going to basically be Highfather vs Yuga Khan, and we know how that went.
Stardust, Terrax and Morg would murder Lightray, Kalibak, Desaad, the Furies and their Granny, and multiple other fodder gods.
Devilance? The guy who lost his head to Lobo?
And the premieres are dealt with.
Orion vs Surfer is anyones game to win, but even if he wins, he loses to Galactus or Tyrant within seconds.
Outside of the notables, which New Gods are going to stop Terrax, let alone premiere heralds?
Answer me that.
What happens when Stardust is frozen by one of Mantis's freeze beams or destroyed by an antimatter blast. I think you didn't take the time to look at my match ups. The heralds aren't beating the new Gods. And which herald is going to stop IM? I don't give a damn why people don't like me. If I were trying to be popular, i would give in and just go with what's popular without giving stuff any thought. kinda like you just did. It's seems silly to think lightray who can create stars, can't crank out enough fire power to match Firelord or nova. Get lost.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What happens when Stardust is frozen by one of Mantis's freeze beams or destroyed by an antimatter blast. I think you didn't take the time to look at my match ups. The heralds aren't beating the new Gods. And which herald is going to stop IM? I don't give a damn why people don't like me. If I were trying to be popular, i would give in and just go with what's popular without giving stuff any thought. kinda like you just did. It's seems silly to think lightray who can create stars, can't crank out enough fire power to match Firelord or nova. Get lost.
You're purposely giving all the heralds bad matches with the new gods, we can do the same thing.
Red Shift can slice the new gods' number in half.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What happens when Stardust is frozen by one of Mantis's freeze beams or destroyed by an antimatter blast. I think you didn't take the time to look at my match ups. The heralds aren't beating the new Gods. And which herald is going to stop IM? I don't give a damn why people don't like me. If I were trying to be popular, i would give in and just go with what's popular without giving stuff any thought. kinda like you just did. It's seems silly to think lightray who can create stars, can't crank out enough fire power to match Firelord or nova. Get lost.
Mantis is powerful true.
But he loses energy quite fast.
Stardust has the stamina to outlast him.
And do his freezebeams outdo the cold of space?
IM can be beaten by Surfer and Morg, something you said yourself a while back.
Lightray has created a star.
Redshift can create blackholes.
Blackhole>Star.
And that was Lightrays best power feat, with his best battle feat being when he slammed Takion through the sun.
He has an entire history of not measuring up, with Orion coming in to get the job done.
One showing doesn't negate a history.
I don't give in to popular opinion.
If i did, i'd look at what everyone else said, and go from there.
Most said the New Gods dominate here, with Quanchi(sp?) saying otherwise.
The only true thorn, is the BlackRacer, who shouldn't be allowed since he's the avatar of death for the NG.
Take him out the picture, and the NG bite it after a decent battle.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Mantis is powerful true.But he loses energy quite fast.
Stardust has the stamina to outlast him.
And do his freezebeams outdo the cold of space?
IM can be beaten by Surfer and Morg, something you said yourself a while back.
Lightray has created a star.
Redshift can create blackholes.
Blackhole>Star.
And that was Lightrays best power feat, with his best battle feat being when he slammed Takion through the sun.
He has an entire history of not measuring up, with Orion coming in to get the job done.
One showing doesn't negate a history.
I don't give in to popular opinion.
If i did, i'd look at what everyone else said, and go from there.
Most said the New Gods dominate here, with Quanchi(sp?) saying otherwise.
The only true thorn, is the BlackRacer, who shouldn't be allowed since he's the avatar of death for the NG.
Take him out the picture, and the NG bite it after a decent battle.
actually I never said Surfer could take out Im. How would he? Im is superior to surfer in everway. And since when Did big G become such a threat when most of his history he's been beaten back from Earth? How then can he possibly beat the combined might of all the new Gods? And wasn't it revealed that Darksied was so powerful that removing him from the time stream collapses time? So when did all of a sudden, Galactus get enough power to beat a being that powerful AND highfather? Do you honestly think Tyrant beats TAkion AND stayne? WTF. Takion Alone is as powerful as Tyrant.