"He is lonely, but he is also GOD
Mad Jim jaspers becomes the 616 Universe:
"I made everything actually, I made the sky, I made the Tiger the Lamb"
"I made the Stars"
"BOTH Jaspers could effortlessly Warp Reality on a Dimension-Wide Scale" (Universal)
(exceprt form the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe 2006)
Japers was an OMNI-VERSAL Threat
Merlin says,
"You cannot fail, this version of Japers is too powerful, too dangerous"
They had to destroy the entire 238 Universe in order to kill 238 Jaspers,
but 616 Jaspers is "NOT so easily contained, and if he's not stopped,
the OMNI-VERSE will fall into Chaos,
and a NEW GOD shall play dice with Matter"
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Happened within his reality warp.When prevented from applying his mutant power by the Fury,
it was proved that he is not physically invulnerable as standard.
Bull shit
The Fury teleported Jaspers to the 238 Universe that had been nullified,
that was not within Jaspers' Warp,
Nice try,
you bull shit artist.
Deals with the references to Jaspers having made the stars, which i believe is the only shred of "evidence" you have for 616 Jaspers ACTUALLy warping the universe in its entirety? 😕
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Apart from Jaspers becoming one with the universe (which many cosmics can do) and Jaspers stating he made the stars in his reality warp, can someone please tell me where its stated that Jaspers warped the entire universe as opposed to just the planet depicted on panel and stated as the scale within the handbooks? 😕Within a reality warp, physics dont have to apply, time and space dont have to have any meaning other than what the warper determines. Look at the M'kraan crystal for example, It is about the size of a house on the outside where the laws of reality apply, however step inside and its interior is infinite.
Within Jaspers warp whilst on the outside it may have covered just the U.K or even the entire planet, on the inside it could stretch as far as Jaspers imagination would allow. So him saying within his warp that he made the stars, doesnt equate to him having warped the entire universe. Nowhere is that stated or depicted.
On panel when referring to the warp Captain Britain refers only to the damage done to the U.K:
CB: Jaspers, if youre even remotely sane you cant do this.
Jaspers: Im not. I can.
CB: No. Not TO MY COUNTRY.
Title of comic?
Anarchy in the Uk
On panel Roma the Omniversal Guardian refers JUST to how the warp damaged Captain Britains world:Captain Britain: My sister. My sister and MY PLANET. Whats happened to them?
Roma: Your WORLD is bruised.
The handbooks state that the warp covered the the globe:
Originally posted by Mr Master
Bull shitThe Fury teleported Jaspers to the 238 Universe that had been nullified,
that was not within Jaspers' Warp,
Nice try,
you bull shit artist.
Nope. The Fury during their battle teleported Jaspers to the sea, to the moon and to various alien landscapes.
All of those places however were within reality so Jaspers could still apply changes to himself.
Fury then clicked on that if he took Jaspers out of reality, he would be vulnerable, because Jaspers changes the physical laws of reality to manifest both changes to himself and changes to reality around himself.
Then this happened:
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I really don't want to get involved in this argument (again), but dammit GS, you know we've already had this conversation, and you and I both know your whole argument is based on an unsubstantiated opinion you have that Jaspers powers are in a state of dormancy when there's no visible effects of his warp on panel. Your whole argument hinges on that man, and we both know you can't prove it. You always pull that card to degrade Jaspers when it's a hollow point upon analysis.
You're better than that homie.
Other than that, I have nothing more to say on the subject. I've treaded in these waters before. Not again. 😆
*addendum
Jaspers defeat by BFR/reality removal was illogical. When Fury ported Jaspers to unspace there was still reality for him to warp: his own being and Fury's. He shouldn't have been powerless, and I personally consider it PIS (upon further logical analysis).
But hey, it's a comic, so who really gives a f*ck. 😆
No more. 😄
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope. The Fury during their battle teleported Jaspers to the sea, to the moon and to various alien landscapes.All of those places however were within reality so Jaspers could still apply changes to himself.
Fury then clicked on that if he took Jaspers out of reality, he would be vulnerable, because Jaspers changes the physical laws of reality to manifest both changes to himself and changes to reality around himself.
Then this happened:
Wait a minute,
you're seriously trying to say that Fury didn't defeat Jaspers in the NULLIFIED 238 Universe?
Please tell me you're saying this?
Originally posted by illadelph12
😆I really don't want to get involved in this argument ([b]again
), but dammit GS, you know we've already had this conversation, and you and I both know your whole argument is based on an unsubstantiated opinion you have that Jaspers powers are in a state of dormancy when there's no visible effects of his warp on panel. Your whole argument hinges on that man, and we both know you can't prove it. You always pull that card to degrade Jaspers when it's a hollow point upon analysis.You're better than that homie.
Other than that, I have nothing more to say on the subject. I've treaded in these waters before. Not again. 😆 [/B]
We have indeed had this argument before and likewise YOUR argument that Jaspers powers are always on within reality are LIKEWISE unsubstantiated.
Please show me on panel where its stated that within reality Jaspers powers automatically make it that hes indestructible and NOT that that was made the case with an intial and conscious application of his power.
At no point where Jaspers has shown himself resistant to damage has your point been stated and when he has done so he has always been within his reality warp. 😬
Originally posted by starlock
Mr Master why dont you make a Cosmic Extant vs White crown phoenix thread and try to make up for the owning you got in this thread
Oh wait you did right after the embarasment you recieved-real mature of youBringing other family members into your debate(what you call a debate) is low even for you
I was wondering when my Sock would show.
It's been a while since you swallowed my children in your dreams.
Go away, crawl back in your cave, Troll!
Originally posted by Mr Master
Wait a minute,you're seriously trying to say that Fury didn't defeat Jaspers in the NULLIFIED 238 Universe?
Please tell me you're saying this?
Are you trying to say that Fury took 616 Jaspers into the nullified 238 universe to defeat him? 😕
Please show me where that was stated. Because all we were told on panel is that he was taken to the void between realities. 😬
Originally posted by illadelph12
I really don't want to get involved in this argument ([b]again), but dammit GS, you know we've already had this conversation, and you and I both know your whole argument is based on an unsubstantiated opinion you have that Jaspers powers are in a state of dormancy when there's no visible effects of his warp on panel. Your whole argument hinges on that man, and we both know you can't prove it. You always pull that card to degrade Jaspers when it's a hollow point upon analysis.You're better than that homie.
Other than that, I have nothing more to say on the subject. I've treaded in these waters before. Not again. 😆
*addendum
Jaspers defeat by BFR/reality removal was illogical. When Fury ported Jaspers to unspace there was still reality for him to warp: his own being and Fury's. He shouldn't have been powerless, and I personally consider it PIS (upon further logical analysis). [/B]
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Originally posted by illadelph12
But hey, it's a comic, so who really gives a f*ck. 😆
😆
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Are you trying to say that Fury took 616 Jaspers into the nullified 238 universe to defeat him?Please show me where that was stated.
Because all we were told on panel is that he was taken to the void between realities.
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That's what we're told?
Just wait a minute, we'll see if that's what they tell us.
This will prove how much your word counts,
you actually said,
"we were told on panel he was taken to the void between realities"
After I stomp out this lie, I wanna see you explain yourself on the,
"we were told on panel" part. 😂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
We have indeed had this argument before and likewise YOUR argument that Jaspers powers are always on within reality are LIKEWISE unsubstantiated.Please show me on panel where its stated that within reality Jaspers powers automatically make it that hes indestructible and NOT that that was made the case with an intial and conscious application of his power.
At no point where Jaspers has shown himself resistant to damage has your point been stated and when he has done so he has always been within his reality warp. 😬
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You know that brand of debating doesn't work on me brotha.
I'll provide my bullets when you provide yours.
Until then, it's hollow, and you can't base an argument on a completely unsubstantiated assumption. You don't even have circumstantial evidence. At least with my contention there's a somewhat related on panel feat to support it (Fury blasting Jaspers in the face and rendering him a charred skeleton to no effect). There's no evidence displayed that Jaspers at that point in time was applying his abilities to his own person prior to Fury's attack, we just have the result.
Show me one instance of Jaspers powers being dormant within reality and I'll concede the point and acquiesce, old friend.
Originally posted by illadelph12
Jaspers defeat by BFR/reality removal was illogical. When Fury ported Jaspers to unspace there was still reality for him to warp: his own being and Fury's. He shouldn't have been powerless, and I personally consider it PIS (upon further logical analysis).But hey, it's a comic, so who really gives a f*ck. 😆
No more. 😄
Just opinion. As far as the comics go it just shows he requires external reality to activate his powers. Your theory isnt the case within the comic book world.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I was wondering when my Sock would show.It's been a while since you swallowed my children in your dreams.
Go away, crawl back in your cave, Troll!
Disgusting talk and smiles are what your debating skills amount to,your a very sad person,you dont like getting owned by G.S then stay away from him,he is obviously out of your league, you might want to deabte with people under the age of 8 years old,that way you can giggle and laugh when your using such language
