Originally posted by Skeets
I wanna see where Genis destroyed the Universe under his own power.
Funny how that Universe destroying power didn't save him from Zemo..
So when I post the scans in about 5 minutes,
showing Genis allowing Zemo to do what must be done, for the sake of Reality across creation,
what then?
Originally posted by Skeets
Yeah,so Zemo can destroy 2 universes eh?
Edit:make that 2 MULTIVERSES!
lmfao
Originally posted by Mr Master
And allowed it too. 😎To save the future of Marvel Universe, which was in Genis' destiny to wipe out completely.
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
So, Photon knew that he was going to get his ass beat by Atlas as well?
Guess that puts an end to the "cheap shot"...
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
So, Photon knew that he was going to get his ass beat by Atlas as well?
Guess that puts an end to the "cheap shot"...
Are you talking about the HOM tie in?
When Genis allows himself to be shut down,
by using a "Bioagent" that Slows Down his Metabolic rate to the point of Catatonia.
Originally posted by Mr MasterF*ck if I know the context...
Are you talking about the HOM tie in?When Genis allows himself to be shut down,
by using a "Bioagent" that Slows Down his Metabolic rate to the point of Catatonia.
Originally posted by Mr Master
While Cosmically Aware, Genis knows everything that will take place before it does.It's not a matter of mediating, he already knows, like he knows his name.
So, he knew that he coulden't over power Sentry?
Did he also know that he would loose to Zemo?
I having doubts that Genis can know wat his opponents will throw before he gets clobbered.
Originally posted by Mr Master
How many scans you want?
Originally posted by Mr Master
From what I know, Surfer does not have Universal Awareness.
I'll be needing proof to buy that. 🙂
I know Surfer was able to peer into the recent Past, but limited and ever so briefly,
he also had to concentrate hard.
Originally posted by Jebus reborn
F*ck if I know the context...
I don't even know what issue number it is, all I know is that Atlas tapped dat ass!
But, judging by Photon's awareness, even though it wasn't working at the time, it wasn't a cheap shot...
Atlas didn't tap shit
Atlas was catching a beat down,
when Genis decided to help this Universe he had just blinked in and out of existence.
Genis ripping Time and Space around Atlas:
Jolsten could have killed Genis, through the pain receptor Rick Jones uses on Genis, a weakness that plagues Genis due to his connection to Rick.
Instead Genis comes up with the Bioagent plan:
Atlas NEVER had a chance against Genis, in fact, like I said before,
Genis is allowing all this:
Originally posted by Priest
So, he knew that he coulden't over power Sentry?
Sentry lost.
Genis was holding back too.
Originally posted by Priest
Did he also know that he would loose to Zemo?
He never lost, he let Zemo finish him, to prevent the obliteration of the Universe.
Have yall read these issues?
Yall keep saying Zemo defeated him, no such thing ever happened.
Originally posted by Priest
Yea if u have scans of opponents that genis fought that are at Silver Surfers caliber of speed and power.
Eternity,
but that's a bit too much right?
I can deliver the scans where Songbird sees him erasing every possible Future.
I also have him blinking the Universe in and out of existence, when his potential was accelerated by Wanda.
Originally posted by Priest
It was never stated by narration that he has universal awareness.
But i can only think of one instance that the has it, in the IG saga, when he senced that half the universe population was dead..
That's not Cosmic Awareness.
That's a limited rendition.
Cosmic Awareness, makes you one with everything,
knowing the Past, Present and Future of all things simultaneously.
Originally posted by Priest
also he has many instances of having galaxy wise awerness, i would have to do some digging for those..
never the less, he wont need awareness on such a grand scale to fight photon.
Photon curbstomps SS, I'm sorry.
I like SS, but Genis is uber folks.
Genis allowed himself to be beat by Zemo. Genis beat Sentry's ass all over the place, and destroyed multiple planets, all while holding back. And Sentry has owned Terrax easier than Surfer could ever dream of. Hell, Tyros (depowered Terrax) lasted pages upon pages against Surfer. Sentry put the real Terrax down in one page, easily. When Atlas beat Genis, it was because Genis was being controlled by Purple Man, who made him shut off his cosmic awareness. Genis even says later on that he wouldve seen Atlas' attack coming a mile away if his CA wasnt turned off. Genis' cosmic awareness is also so attuned that he sensed that the HoM universe was fake, and seemed to rip a hole right out of it, showing he was more powerful than HoM Scarlet Witch.
Rick Jones doesnt know jack shit about what Genis is actually capable of, that was clearly shown in the Walker arc, and even so, i dont remember Rick ever saying Surfer > Genis, i just remember Genis threatening Surfer and Surfer backing off. AND that was a much weaker, much more inexperienced version of Genis that's fighting here.
And Genis destroyed the multiverse. Entropy just brought him there. It was clearly shown and especially stated on-panel that Genis was the one that provided the energy to destroy the universe, which means he did it. He also did alot of the work recreating the universe as well. So it's more like Genis gets 99.99% credit for destroying the universe, and 50% credit for recreating it.
Also, as Mr Master pointed out, Genis is an omniversal telepath. He embarassed the Overmind in telepathy after breaking out of Purple Man's mind control, and the Overmind is so powerful he telepathically linked everyone on earth at the same time a few issues later. Surfer doesnt have anything against telepathy on that level.
And oh my god please dont say Surfer can dump Genis in the microverse. I saw someone say that and that's absurd. Genis uses access to the microverse by far better than anyone. That's his forte.
And you think Surfer creating a black hole is impressive? Dude, Genis was casually creating multiple black holes through not only space, but time, at the same time. Hell he accidentally sent Songbird to the future and the rest of the T-Bolts to the past. And all subconsciously on top of that.
And you're talking about being cheapshotted by Atlas, one of the strongest Marvel heroes to date, as if it's such a bad thing. You wanna bring up Surfer's bad showings? Karnak with a brick? Having a hard time with Spider-Man? Getting owned by Black Panther? Need i go on?
What Radioactive Man says actually does count for alot. I mean, the guy is a scientist, specializing in energy and everything, has fought Thor and Surfer level beings on multiple occasions and has done very well, and on top of all that, HE WAS STUDYING GENIS FOR WEEKS. And even though he's fought guys on Surfer's level of power before and done good, he still said Photon's power was beyond his comprehension. That counts for a lot.
And Rewmac, first off, im sorry for the personal attack. Sometimes i just get frustrated and i overreact and i apologize for that. But the feats in Surfer's respect thread, EVERYTHING there Genis could duplicate, and easier than Surfer did at that. And by the way, some of those things arent even worth mentioning...Rogue passing out from touching Surfer? Dude, Songbird who doesnt even absorb powers like Rogue touched Genis and it nearly gave her a heart attack, if Rogue touched Genis she'd probably explode.
Oh, and all these feats while he was Photon? There all while he was distracted, aka not able to show his true potential. And when you think about it, this is actually just Sentry and Genis vs Surfer and Firelord, cuz Stardust is made of energy, therefore his ass is getting dispersed all over the multiverse in the first second by Genis.
And just for the record, im not hating on Surfer or ranting about Genis. I like Surfer alot too, he's my 3rd favorite cosmic dude behind Photon and Firelord, he's just out of his league against Photon.
Genis >>> Surfer
And Genis and Sentry win.
Oh, and one more thing. What happenned the last time the Power Cosmic faced off against the Odinforce, aka Surfer vs Odin? Oh that's right, Surfer got owned in one casual backhand. Completely knocked the hell out. What happenned the last time Genis went up against the Odinforce, aka King Thor, Odin's equal? Genis embarassed his ass, took his shot laughing and dished out his own making KT scream out in pain and was down for the rest of the issue and the beginning of the next one. Yep yep.
Another thing i forgot to mention...in a Fantastic Four arc against Abraxas, Surfer was killed, while Genis (and Quasar) were doing just fine. Genis has also brought back the dead more times than i can remember, something i dont remember Surfer ever doing. Hell, as Legacy he even brought Surfer back from near death.
And Thanos, who has massive respect for Surfer's power, has also heavily alluded to Genis being more powerful and more resourceful than Surfer.
Originally posted by SkeetsMore,more and more...
Yeah,so Zemo can destroy 2 universes eh?
Edit:make that 2 MULTIVERSES!
Originally posted by Skeets313 Give it to him baby...Aha-aha...😖hifty:
So Genis knew Zemo was gonna tap that ass?
Originally posted by Mr MasterIt's funny because if Genis has soooo much power of his own why was his dumped those times? If he can destroy the universe that means he is somewhere on Galactus level or higher...And that is just dumb.
While Cosmically Aware, Genis knows everything that will take place before it does.It's not a matter of mediating, he already knows, like he knows his name.
How many scans you want?
From what I know, Surfer does not have Universal Awareness.
I'll be needing proof to buy that. 🙂
I know Surfer was able to peer into the recent Past, but limited and ever so briefly,
he also had to concentrate hard.
Originally posted by Mr MasterGood point. But he was attacked a lot of times without knowing what's going to happen. Even he can't know everything. Surfer just popps out of nothing and PC blasts him.
Sentry lost.Genis was holding back too.
He never lost, he let Zemo finish him, to prevent the obliteration of the Universe.
Have yall read these issues?
Yall keep saying Zemo defeated him, no such thing ever happened.
Eternity,
but that's a bit too much right?
I can deliver the scans where Songbird sees him erasing every possible Future.
I also have him blinking the Universe in and out of existence, when his potential was accelerated by Wanda.
That's not Cosmic Awareness.
That's a limited rendition.
Cosmic Awareness, makes you one with everything,
knowing the Past, Present and Future of all things simultaneously.
Photon curbstomps SS, I'm sorry.
I like SS, but Genis is uber folks.
