Pakistan says Rushdie knighthood justifies suicide bombings

Originally posted by Ushgarak
That depends on the Knihthood, bit frankly, you don't ever see this kind of fuss made on such a globally different level about honours levelled by other countries.

Pakistan is a Commonwealth country so there might be a link there; Iran is more surprising. But the fact of the matter is that the world still pays attention to someone being made a Knight.

Extremists Muslims pay way to much attention to everything, they made a huge uproar about some Danish cartoons. According to the Dutch intelligence agency they were ready to riot about a stupid Dutch politician with a minor seat in our cabinet who said the Qur'an should just be burned, but we were lucky and they had other things to be pissed about instead.

So in short they are pissed off way to much, way to quickly and apparently really enjoy having something to be pissed about.

Originally posted by §P0oONY
It's not just anyone being made a knight though, it's a man that has been in hiding due to threats by extremists across the globe.

The out cry may very well have been influenced by Pakistan's Commonwealth status, it is basically their queen giving an honour to a man they despise.

I know it's not just anyone; that is kinda the point of this thread.

I still think it is remarkable that countires such as Iran and Pakkistan actually consider a Knighthood as actually something significant for them to comment on for it to be such an insult. Like I say, Rushdie has received plenty of plaudits and awards since the fatwa. Many would say that a system like that of the Knight is now so complwtely irrelevant outside the country of origin that no-one would give a stuff whether they hate the guy or not. But as I said above- the world still pays a certain amount of attention to the fact that someone has a 'Sir' in front of their name.

I cannot, for example, see any award that could be reasonably be given to him by the US that would produce such a reaction.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
But the fact of the matter is that the world still pays attention to someone being made a Knight.

Maybe that's because most of the world used to be a part of the British empire...I dunno.

Originally posted by Devil King
Maybe that's because most of the world used to be a part of the British empire...I dunno.

"Part"... That makes me think of "equality", just wasn't so. 🙂

Originally posted by Ushgarak
I know it's not just anyone; that is kinda the point of this thread.

I still think it is remarkable that countires such as Iran and Pakkistan actually consider a Knighthood as actually something significant for them to comment on for it to be such an insult. Like I say, Rushdie has received plenty of plaudits and awards since the fatwa. Many would say that a system like that of the Knight is now so complwtely irrelevant outside the country of origin that no-one would give a stuff whether they hate the guy or not. But as I said above- the world still pays a certain amount of attention to the fact that someone has a 'Sir' in front of their name.

I cannot, for example, see any award that could be reasonably be given to him by the US that would produce such a reaction.

Originally posted by Robtard
"Part"... That makes me think of "equality", just wasn't so. 🙂

Originally posted by §P0oONY

Part may make you think of "equality" but it's not what it implies, him sayng it wasn't wrong, except for the fact that most of the world wasn't in the British Empire.

What? At one point the British Empire ruled over a quarter of the worlds total population and land mass... maybe not "most" of the world, but it was the most extensive empire ever.

Originally posted by Robtard
What? At one point the British Empire ruled over a quarter of the worlds total population and land mass... maybe not "most" of the world, but it was the most extensive empire ever.

Originally posted by §P0oONY
Duh. 1/4 is not most the world though. That was the only thing wrong with his post though, the fact that he said "part" wasn't wrong, like your post implied.

Yeah, I agreed... "maybe not "most" of the world, but it was the most extensive empire ever" . Duh.

Oh, I also said "makes me think"; I also added a "smilie" to denote humor. Double duh, are you one of those oversensitive British twats now?

1/4 isn´t really accurate: Australia & India (when Pakistan was part of it) are large chunks of the world by anyones measure, not to mention large parts of Asia and Africa. I don´t know if the UK had all of the N. America under their control, not familiar with US history apart from Mel Gibsons Movie (the patriot) which probably was as inaccurate as the Highlander.

What bothers me is why did he get a knighthood, just because he wrote a couple of boring books, or just to wind Iran up?

Originally posted by Bicnarok
1/4 isn´t really accurate: Australia & India (when Pakistan was part of it) are large chunks of the world by anyones measure, not to mention large parts of Asia and Africa. I don´t know if the UK had all of the N. America under their control, not familiar with US history apart from Mel Gibsons Movie (the patriot) which probably was as inaccurate as the Highlander.

What bothers me is why did he get a knighthood, just because he wrote a couple of boring books, or just to wind Iran up?

So you know more than historians now? Sweet.

Because he wrote a book he knew fanatical lunatics would kill him over and he stood by it. Does he deserve a Knighthood for that? I'm not sure, as I do not know what entitles one for that honor. The guy has a solid pair of balls though.

Did you read "Satanic Verses", what was "stupid" about it?

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, I agreed... "maybe [B]not "most" of the world, but it was the most extensive empire ever" . Duh.

Oh, I also said "makes me think"; I also added a "smilie" to denote humor. Double duh, are you one of those oversensitive British twats now? [/B]

And I'm in no way a sensitive Brit, I'm not bothered about the dynamics of the British empire, I just thought you were patronising someone for no reason.

Originally posted by §P0oONY
A smile doesn't represent a joke to me, I've always seen it as a sign of condescension on a forum, which if you look at it now I'm sure you'll understand.

And I'm in no way a sensitive Brit, I'm not bothered about the dynamics of the British empire, I just thought you were patronising someone for no reason.

I wouldn't patronize without a reason. Besides, Devilking is an intelligent adult, he could easily handle himself, if I were to be condescending without cause.

Originally posted by Robtard
I wouldn't patronize without a reason. Besides, Devilking is an intelligent adult, he could easily handle himself, if I were to be condescending without cause.

Originally posted by §P0oONY
I don't know Devilking at all so I didn't know that. I just thought you were being a bit of a tosser, my mistake.

Well, I am a "tosser", but that's neither here nor there.

He got the Knighthood for extended services to literature and being a beacon of free speech. People have been given them for less. The fact that he insulted some Muslims should be the most irrelevant thing of all- precious few meaningful writers have not insulted some group or other. That is because such writers are people with ideas, and ideas always insult people with different ideas.

This is why, as I say, this whole incident is another PR disaster for Muslims- the people in, say, the Pakistani parliament commenting on this are simply sounding like crybabies. As Stephen Fry once said- what about their insults to our religion, a religion of tolerance and free speech?

How funny from u lil to ignore his sayings about westerns ..especially white women !

WHITE WOMEN - NEVER MIND FAT, JEWISH, NON-DEFERENTIAL WHITE WOMEN - WERE FOR ****ING AND THROWING OVER. "(PAGE 261 TVS). In Rushdie´s perverted mind, the fate of every "white women" was for ****ing and throwing over. The only qualification required by Rushdie is that they be "WHITE". It does not matter their shape or size. Whether with a hooled Jewish nose or an Anglo-Saxon angular nose. Whether you can recognise their nationality or not. Whether they be English, or Irish; Scottish or Weish; German or French; American or Canadian - provided they are white! "THEY ARE ONLY GOOD FOR DISCARDING AFTER ****ING" SAYS RUSHDIE!

And about the queen herself :

he found himself dreaming of the Queen, of MAKING TENDER LOVE to the MONARCH. She was the body Britain, the avatar of the state, and he had chosen her, JOINED WITH HER; she was his Beloved, the moon of his delight."11(Page 169 of TSV.) What is Rushdie telling his readers, if not that he ****ed her Majesty. "Joined with her," above compare with his expression "STILL CONJOINED," on page 12

How Rushdie Fooled The West - by Sheikh Ahmed Deedat ..This book is to replay on his stupid book ..must read it

Errmm arent those quotes of a character in The Satanic Verses and not actually Rushdies words?

Fatima:

I think the knighthood was awarded to him for freedom of speech, not for the content of his work. Look at what happened to Theo Van Gogh, Rushdie is being recognized for the fact that he was willing to say something that was potentially fatal for him, and has been hiding from fanatics ever since.

Regardless of what he says, I mean honestly, he could have a chapter devoted to how much of a ******* I am, how big of a **** my mother is and other very offensive things. I don't really care what he believes in, more that he believes it enough to risk his life to say it. That should be awarded in anyone no matter how vile.

Originally posted by inimalist
Fatima:

I think the knighthood was awarded to him for freedom of speech, not for the content of his work. Look at what happened to Theo Van Gogh, Rushdie is being recognized for the fact that he was willing to say something that was potentially fatal for him, and has been hiding from fanatics ever since.

Regardless of what he says, I mean honestly, he could have a chapter devoted to how much of a ******* I am, how big of a **** my mother is and other very offensive things. I don't really care what he believes in, more that he believes it enough to risk his life to say it. That should be awarded in anyone no matter how vile.

Oh yea freedom of speech from the Queen whos announced that she intends to resort to the American judiciary arguing that the book (her ex-servant who puplished a book , in which he spoke of the scandals and moral and permissiveness abuses he saw at the Palais British Queen Elizabeth II when he was a servant for several years ) tarnishes the prestige of the British Royal Family?Where is the freedom of opinion and thought ?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Salman Rushdie, as you might be familiar is the author of Satanic Verses

He has recently been granted knighthood by the Queen of England, which sparked the controversy, in Iran and Pakistan, mostly.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article1948375.ece

Thoughts?

Well yes.

If one cares and gets influenced about the western civilisations' accreditments, then, Condition has already taken place . Only the things and annunciations that really matter to one's beliefs' should be accredited. Cause and Effect. Its a waste of time haggling with the west BEcause the west aint going into the detail the east does.

As long as you believe in it, it could yerr life. So why let something from another country's hisoricity be of any disturbance????

Too many countries wanna be westernized; they got the tech from elsewhere.

All the asians should not give flying fvuck and carry on with their lives. the west is actually an attention ho! ( Now, this is the western ideaology.........however its human.)