Originally posted by emporerpants
The deviants saga is being very unkind to Thor.😖poilers:
First, he straight up gets beat down by one of the deviants. Then, in the next issue, he gets knocked out by a jet exploding and then loses a second time to the same deviant a few pages later even quicker than the first fight. Its getting kind of annoying.
Don't look at the saga with Vs Forum googles, it's actually one of the best dips into the Eternals mythos we've had since Gaiman's big revamp.
There's really no justification for any deviant weapon of that caliber to take down Thor. They shouldn't even slow him down tbh. Just call it a low showing because that's what it is.
Thor's the kind of character who can drop in on the city of the Eternals/Deviants and run a train on the entire population without Zuras or somebody around.
Originally posted by Bentley
Bleh, they have one-shotted Ikaris in several occasions, it's not as if Thor died or anything.Frankly, Thor would be hardpressed to match the Unimind summoned by three random Eternals.
Yes, because Thor and Ikaris are so comparable. And what kind of weaponry did they use?
A single hammer throw from Thor can one shot like tons of regular Eternals. Regular Eternals would be about effective against Thor as regular Asgardians. Meaning not at all.
If it was like Ikaris, Virakis and Atlo then sure, why not, but three no-name Eternals? He'd run a train on them Forgotten One style.
Also, I thought you needed at least 7 Eternals for the Uni-Mind.
Originally posted by BentleyTo me any weapon outside someone's own personal weapon is a plot device. A Stark satellite can take out the WW Hulk but that doesn't mean mjolnir can. It's just how these writers want to go about it so I don't worry much when a certain ray gun or a satellite does this outside someone's own personal tech/weapon.
Deviant weapons are historically quite uber though.
Originally posted by Bentley
I was under the impression just three were needed, but you might be right. The Unimind is exponentially more powerful than Eternals fighting on their own though.And I agree that Thor can face such Unimind, and that he could also take Deviant blasts, I just disagree it's a poor piss bad showing.
I remember it being seven. IIRC, it combines their personal energies, unfortunately Thor is far above 3 regular Eternals.
It is a very bad showing but it's not that surprising, Rodi has been writing a very watered down Thor. My inner fanboy wants him to stay purely on non-cannon material where if he wants to have Thor struggle with lifting a house, it's like whatever, who cares. Swords and sorcery type writer trying to give Thor a cosmic spin.
If Roy Thomas wrote the encountert, generic Deviant weaponry would be bouncing off Thor's nipples.
THE MIGHTY THOR ANNUAL #1
J.M. DeMatteis (w) • Richard Elson (a)
Cover by Patrick Zircher
Variant Cover by ARTHUR ADAMS
• Thor caught in a war of eons between two cosmic entities!
• Can even Galactus and the Silver Surfer tip the balance?
• An eternal game for the fate of the universe enters its final match, with Oblivion himself ready to take the prize!
56 PGS./ ONE-SHOT/Rated T+ …$4.99
Oblivion vs. Galactus? Potential Thor vs. Surfer rematch?
Originally posted by vince_slice
http://comics.cosmicbooknews.com/content/junes-mighty-thor-annual-1-features-silver-surfer-and-galactus[b]THE MIGHTY THOR ANNUAL #1
J.M. DeMatteis (w) • Richard Elson (a)
Cover by Patrick Zircher
Variant Cover by ARTHUR ADAMS
• Thor caught in a war of eons between two cosmic entities!
• Can even Galactus and the Silver Surfer tip the balance?
• An eternal game for the fate of the universe enters its final match, with Oblivion himself ready to take the prize!
56 PGS./ ONE-SHOT/Rated T+ …$4.99Oblivion vs. Galactus? Potential Thor vs. Surfer rematch? [/B]
Marvel is really liking this Thor vs. Silver Surfer running conflict (I do to.)
Originally posted by vince_slice
http://comics.cosmicbooknews.com/content/junes-mighty-thor-annual-1-features-silver-surfer-and-galactus[b]THE MIGHTY THOR ANNUAL #1
J.M. DeMatteis (w) • Richard Elson (a)
Cover by Patrick Zircher
Variant Cover by ARTHUR ADAMS
• Thor caught in a war of eons between two cosmic entities!
• Can even Galactus and the Silver Surfer tip the balance?
• An eternal game for the fate of the universe enters its final match, with Oblivion himself ready to take the prize!
56 PGS./ ONE-SHOT/Rated T+ …$4.99Oblivion vs. Galactus? Potential Thor vs. Surfer rematch? [/B]
Dont screw me over Marvel.
Originally posted by vince_sliceThe epicness of that solic can only mean it will disappoint
http://comics.cosmicbooknews.com/content/junes-mighty-thor-annual-1-features-silver-surfer-and-galactus[b]THE MIGHTY THOR ANNUAL #1
J.M. DeMatteis (w) • Richard Elson (a)
Cover by Patrick Zircher
Variant Cover by ARTHUR ADAMS
• Thor caught in a war of eons between two cosmic entities!
• Can even Galactus and the Silver Surfer tip the balance?
• An eternal game for the fate of the universe enters its final match, with Oblivion himself ready to take the prize!
56 PGS./ ONE-SHOT/Rated T+ …$4.99Oblivion vs. Galactus? Potential Thor vs. Surfer rematch? [/B]
http://marvel.com/news/story/18540/c2e2_2012_mighty_thorjourney_into_mystery
Beginning in August and stretching through October, THE MIGHTY THOR #18-22 and JOURNEY INTO MYSTERY #642-645 will demonstrate that truism in the powerful event “Everything Burns.”The arc represents the culmination of themes building from the very beginning of both series.
“We knew from day one we were heading here,” MIGHTY THOR writer Matt Fraction declares. “Not always necessarily how we were getting here, but we knew the fires were coming.”
“In my early JOURNEY interviews pre-release, I talked about a long term plan for both books which would lead to a collision,” JOURNEY INTO MYSTERY writer Kieron Gillen affirms, “We always knew we'd be coming together at some point.
“I always said I knew that I knew the final image of my whole story at the start. This is a key part of it, and something that I've been working towards since I first put pen to paper. Or rather finger to keyboard.”
Aiding the creators to ensure the long simmering plans could reach full boil, editor Lauren Sankovitch has been very pleased with the duo’s collaborative spirit.
“As luck would have it, Matt and Kieron came into this event having a wealth of previous collaboration experience as well which, coupled with their enthusiasm for each other’s work, has made the whole process fairly smooth and, at times, utterly hilarious,” she discloses.
Unfortunately for the denizens of both books, the devastation of the storyline stands in stark contrast to the fun had in making it. At the story’s opening, an old enemy returns with designs on decimating the nine realms and the threat leaves no one untouched.
“It’s an epic,” Gillen says, explaining who will take on a prominent role in the story. “Thor and Loki are the heart of it all, but everyone else is the circulatory system around them, pumped full of fiery blood, ready to explode. Any significant player in JOURNEY INTO MYSTERY at least has a moment, and several are absolutely key.”
“Everyone,” Fraction confirms, simply. “Everyone.”
For the two brothers at the center of the story, the horror could not come at a worse time.
“Loki and Thor are as close as they've been at the start,” Gillen points out. “Of course, Thor doesn't know a lot of what Loki's been up to.”
“This story is about asking the question ‘What can break the bonds of brotherhood?’” Fraction asserts. “How long can Thor stand at Loki's side? How many angles can Loki play at once? What Thor and Loki share is inconceivable to everyone but themselves. So whatever breaks it would have to be beyond comprehension, right?”
The two writers are understandably closemouthed with many details, wanting readers to have the pleasure of being surprised as the story unfolds. However, their passion proves overwhelming enough that even they cannot help but speak out a bit:
“It's an Epic,” Gillen enthuses. “It's a once-in-a-career chance to tell an Asgardian story with this kind of scale. Let's keep it basic: this is the most important story for Loki I've ever [written]. And hopefully the best.”
“Birds on fire,” Fraction teases. “Churches on fire. Trees on fire. Everything's on fire. The air is thick with the stench of Doom one might say.
“After everything burns, nothing's left but ash.”