Originally posted by trickster_farts
just as xmeat is an aspect of nvr's consciousness.
now we know you are a silly lil ******. Xmeat ****ing loved the hulk. Are u serious? the hulk. He's so ugly. i bet he has a big dick tho. a big green one. with green jizz eeewwww. Xmeat is not any part of me. Quanchi is xmeat you dope.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO. he sucks more cock than i do. he's a silly ******.
xmeat will always be an aspect of your mind. nvr is not nvr without his alter ego, xmeat. I can peer into your mind, nvr. Xmeat is the total sum of all you ever fantasized about...a cross between tricksterpriest and Mr. Master..with a dash of skeets.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Cosmic Extant runs the gauntlet
Originally posted by TricksterPriestIf we are only to compare feats Thanos himself accomplished /w/ IG, and only feats Extant himself accomplished with the 'Gog....
Galan, in your opinion, can Cosmic Extant, with the 'gog and chair, beat Thanos w/e the IG?
Then Extant would take this, [he simply did more with the power he had then Thanos did].
Now,
If we are to compare ALL feats from the IG, [which is borderline BS imo], then it would probably be a stalemate.
And FYI,
All the Mobius Chair really allowed Extant to do is transverse through any plane of existence..... The actual creation of his Universe and everything in it was all the 'Gog imo. 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
We look at [B]actual on panel feats and illustrated character power sets and from their proven capabilities, post a hypothetical confrontation where we speculate how we think characters would fare based on said proven capabilities and nothing else, otherwise the argument is baseless.If a character has not shown themselves capable of something on panel, if they've shown nowhere near a certain level of prowess you cannot state that they are capable of doing so and expect to get away with that in debate.
If Phoenix in other appearances hadnt healed the M'kraan crystal, amputated the future and telekinetically manipulated the atoms of a a reality then i would not and could not credibly come in here and argue that she's certified universe destroyer level regardless of what a few characters on panel merely said about her capacity.
On top of that the Time Bubble story arc where Galactus raged out of control and was eating everything around him never occurred in 616 and it never featured 616 Galactus therefore using said arc as a representation of what 616 Galactus is capable of is illogical. Not only could that Galactus have had a different power level to our Galactus, but on top of that the Galactus in that story arc could only do what he did after his makeup was altered by the Dreaming Celestial. It wasnt a feat achievable as far as we know by that universes Galactus as standard, so once again referencing that event to speak for 616 Galactus is illogical. [/B]
You mean we are looking at panel feats you on the other hand are looking in the handbooks. : post a hypothetical confrontation where we speculate how we think characters would fare based on said proven capabilities and nothing else, otherwise the argument is baseless.: So basically you are saying the same as I am, we are taking one being vs another and are speculating what would happend if they meet I doesn't see this divert from my original statement 😕
There wasn't anyone stopping her now was there??? No there wasn't, My point was that a lot of things would happend in marvel if there wasn't any intervention and Phoenix wouldn't have amputated anything if Jamie for instance would have stopped her, cause and effect, If I remember correctly you said thatit didn't happen because it was halted by reed well Jasper was also halted and so on...
I have pointed that out already cannot remember if it was in this thread ore another but I have pointed it out.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
But who was defeated by thr IG says a lot more about it than who stopped it. If I nuke a house to kill a mouse does that mean only a nuke could have done it? No, because I can look at a cat and see what it's capable of and reason out that despite being far less powerful than a nuclear weapon it's perfectly capable of killing that mouse.
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By current continuity the IG draws its power from the Big Bang, it is a universal power. The fact that it was LT that stopped it on panel doesnt mean that it requires a being of LT's power to stop it.
Originally posted by Utrigita
You mean we are looking at panel feats you on the other hand are looking in the handbooks. : post a hypothetical confrontation where we speculate how we think characters would fare based on said proven capabilities and nothing else, otherwise the argument is baseless.: So basically you are saying the same as I am, we are taking one being vs another and are speculating what would happend if they meet I doesn't see this divert from my original statement 😕There wasn't anyone stopping her now was there??? No there wasn't, My point was that a lot of things would happend in marvel if there wasn't any intervention and Phoenix wouldn't have amputated anything if Jamie for instance would have stopped her, cause and effect, If I remember correctly you said thatit didn't happen because it was halted by reed well Jasper was also halted and so on...
I have pointed that out already cannot remember if it was in this thread ore another but I have pointed it out.
Didnt understand a word of that because of how it was written.
In a nutshell, all it comes down to is we hypothesize about how a character would fare in battle based solely on on panel feats, capabilities proven on panel, power levels illustrated on panel, NOT character statements. Character feats are conclusive, a character comment is unproven and not necessarily what said characters actually believe, they could have a hidden agenda, a motive for saying certain things, so unless a statement is supported by a feat, you cant present it as conclusive evidence of what a character is capable of, this doesnt work like that.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
👆By current continuity the IG draws its power from the Big Bang, it is a universal power. The fact that it was LT that stopped it on panel doesnt mean that it requires a being of LT's power to stop it.
I been saying that forever. The LT said the wearer of the guantlet replaces Eternity. Nothing more.
Originally posted by GalacticStormI disagree.
The fact that it was LT that stopped it on panel doesnt mean that it requires a being of LT's power to stop it.
LT simply talked Warlock out of a confrontation... That's why Warlock gave up the IG.
But,
Had Warlock not handed over the IG, there would have been an unprecedented battle between himself and LT.
The fact that LT couldn't have just blinked to beat Warlock.... The fact that he would have had to physically battle him,
The fact that LT had to litterally gauge his own power against the IG's
Tells me that LT was required to wrest the Gauntlet from Warlock.
srug
Originally posted by Mr MasterNope, there have never been Alternate Gems depicted in Marvel
The other Two IG's were from Diverged Realities of 616.
Meaning, several years AFTER the IG arc,
somehow in some mirror Universe the IG series is still taking place 😂
Thanos loses the IG to Surfer
Thanos loses the IG to Impossible ManThese are Realities that are stuck in a timeloop, awaiting their birth depending
on a Universe's History that ALREADY took place.
Who told you any of this? 😕
Can you direct me to the comic issue or other official publication where this was stated please? 🙂
There are other IG's in the universe as proven by the existence of other Infinity Gauntlets in the Marvel Multiverse.
What If SS has the IG
What if Impossible Man has the IG.
By current continiuity The IG's power derives from the power primordial which an energy source derived from the universes Big Bang:
She Hulk V3 #8
Champion/Fallen Ones bio:
So not only do the What Ifs illustrate the universal nature of the IG, but on top of that its power source verifies it.
Originally posted by Galan007
I disagree.LT simply talked Warlock out of a confrontation... That's why Warlock gave up the IG.
But,
Had Warlock not handed over the IG, there would have been an unprecedented battle between himself and LT.
The fact that LT couldn't have just blinked to beat Warlock.... The fact that he would have had to physically battle him,
The fact that LT had to litterally gauge his own power against the IG's
Tells me that LT was required to wrest the Gauntlet from Warlock.
srug
The IG by canon is a universal power. Its feats are topped by other Marvel characters/artifacts. Yes LT was unsure of how his power would fare against the IG (as i have argued many a time during my time here) however that doesnt mean that only LT can stop the IG. We know that it takes a power greater than Eternitys conclusively, but not that it has to be LT's.
Originally posted by GalacticStormQuestion?
The IG by canon is a universal power. Its feats are topped by other Marvel characters/artifacts. Yes LT was unsure of how his power would fare against the IG (as i have argued many a time during my time here) however that doesnt mean that only LT can stop the IG. We know that it takes a power greater than Eternitys conclusively, but not that it has to be LT's.
Can you prove that LT's power wasn't the only thing which could have wrested the IG from Warlock?
Because there's much more evidence to suggest that LT's power was in fact required to stop the IG imo. 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The IG by canon is a universal power. Its feats are topped by other Marvel characters/artifacts. Yes LT was unsure of how his power would fare against the IG (as i have argued many a time during my time here) however that doesnt mean that only LT can stop the IG. We know that it takes a power greater than Eternitys conclusively, but not that it has to be LT's.
I totally agree and have been arguing this for months now. Good work on the research.