thanos vs darkseid with one week worth of prep

Started by Desaad69 pages
Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]not even close. in foundations i saw two ds owned at the same time and dealt with by one team of superheroes. they beat old ds into a 1000 year old coma.

What? No they didn't.

Old Darkseid casually trapped the entire team in an energy field of his own making. Young Darkseid freed them, and then trapped them again.

Young Darkseid killed Old Darkseid, by manhandling Orion.

The Superteam didn't do anything besides drive Darkseid back into a Boom Tube. They never even knocked him out, never even knocked him down!

Considering that team had Lightning Lad in the body of the Progenitor, Quantum Girl, Superboy, etc. that is a fine, fine feat right there.

supes did this before he was really eevn supes. pathetic showing for old ds. young ds was throw into a boomtube and dismissed like he was nothing.

Thats delusional. He wasn't thrown into a Boom Tube like he was nothing. It took their most powerful members combining their powers to just push him back. Element Lad, in Legion Lost, ALONE was way above top tier. Add his powers with Lightning Lad's, and then 5 other top tier legionaires...c'mon, I don't really think you believe this.

Thanos has been knocked down by generic laser fire.

And has been similarly knocked down by a single top tier, Quasar...

How does that factor in?

Originally posted by Desaad
What? No they didn't.

Old Darkseid casually trapped the entire team in an energy field of his own making. Young Darkseid freed them, and then trapped them again.

Young Darkseid killed Old Darkseid, by manhandling Orion.

The Superteam didn't do anything besides drive Darkseid back into a Boom Tube. They never even knocked him out, never even knocked him down!

Considering that team had Lightning Lad in the body of the Progenitor, Quantum Girl, Superboy, etc. that is a fine, fine feat right there.

Thats delusional. He wasn't thrown into a Boom Tube like he was nothing. It took their most powerful members combining their powers to just push him back. Element Lad, in Legion Lost, ALONE was way above top tier. Add his powers with Lightning Lad's, and then 5 other top tier legionaires...c'mon, I don't really think you believe this.

Thanos has been knocked down by generic laser fire.

And has been similarly knocked down by a single top tier, Quasar...

How does that factor in?

yes young darkseid did kill old darkseid by using orion. old ds coulndt putprep a younger version of himself who was just throwin into this series of events. did u forget that younger ds was killed by the timestream as the losh was going back in time. young ds was clueless how to save himself and his men. when losh showed up they beat two ds at once. they did throw ds into the boomtube. they didnt have to knock him down. all they had to do was get him back to his time where they could right the wrongs of the old ds tampering with the timestream. darkseid had no fine feat in this whole story. two ds were dealt with at the same time by one team of superheroes. after young ds was dealt with and sent back old ds drained all his mens powers to fight the reamining team memebers. ds was put down by a superman who didnt even become superman in his mind yet. this is an extremely poor showing for old ds. he was knocked out for 1000 years.

how does this factor in well how does doomdsay owning all of ds planet then kicking the utter crap out of ds, ur scan shows quasar knock him down. doomsday dragged his carcass across apokolips.

should i also bring up when raker had him knocked downed. and had a shovel to ds's dome.

Any chance I can get you to use paragraphs and punctuation? Your posts are exceedingly difficult to wade through.

Originally posted by quanchi112
yes young darkseid did kill old darkseid by using orion.

Absolutely manhandling Orion, in fact. Treating him like he was a toy.

old ds coulndt putprep a younger version of himself who was just throwin into this series of events.

So you're actually trying to use Darkseid beating himself as some sort of bad showing?

You realize, of course, that every Thanos appearance through Infinity Gauntlet operated under the conceit that Thanos was subconsciously sabotaging himself?

did u forget that younger ds was killed by the timestream as the losh was going back in time.

Apparently so. When was a younger Darkseid killed by the timestream? Not in that story.

I saw that Darkseid created a way to utterly destroy the universe, though, something that Thanos was incapable of doing for most of his career.

young ds was clueless how to save himself and his men.

He was thrown in the middle of an untenable situation, in which he had no part in planning. How was he to know that old, used up Darkseid was going to have miscalculated the amount of Dark Matter needed?

when losh showed up they beat two ds at once.

No. They didn't.

Against the Old Darkseid, they never did anything. Young Darkseid freed them from their prison, young Darkseid killed Old Darkseid, then once they had served their purpose young Darkseid again imprisoned them by closing his fist.

they did throw ds into the boomtube.

They didn't "throw" him into anything. They drove him back into it with constant attacks, inch by inch. Again, considering the amount of power on that team at the time, that is actually an EXCELLENT feat for young Darkseid (Hadn't yet absorbed the powers of the pantheons yet).

they didnt have to knock him down.

Right, and they couldn't even if they wanted to, because it was taking everything they had just to push him back.

But what I was getting at is that he wasn't "dismissed as if he was nothing". They clearly did everything they could to get him through there, and STILL couldn't knock him down. Hardly nothing.

all they had to do was get him back to his time where they could right the wrongs of the old ds tampering with the timestream. darkseid had no fine feat in this whole story.

You don't believe that. You just don't like the character, and are looking for a way to discredit him.

Either that, or you didn't read the same story I did.

two ds were dealt with at the same time by one team of superheroes.

Ridiculous. I've given you the specifics and you KNOW the specifics, so don't act like this really happened.

after young ds was dealt with and sent back old ds drained all his mens powers to fight the reamining team memebers. ds was put down by a superman who didnt even become superman in his mind yet. this is an extremely poor showing for old ds. he was knocked out for 1000 years.

How can you point to the defeat of a Darkseid who was so weakened he could barely move as any sort of valid showing for the formidability of the current Darkseid?

The fact that he did as much as he did - trapping the Legion, making the clones - is AMAZING considering he was basically a pock-marked old statue. He specifically says he is nearly powerless, which is why he brings his young self from the past.

Sorry, but you are reaching.

Originally posted by quanchi112
how does this factor in well how does doomdsay owning all of ds planet then kicking the utter crap out of ds, ur scan shows quasar knock him down. doomsday dragged his carcass across apokolips.

Do you really not understand your own point?

You are saying that Darkseid being driven through the Boom Tube by a number of top tier characters is a bad showing, despite the fact that he didn't fall down.

So the showing that I mentioned - of one top tier actually knocking Thanos over and down, and of a simple laser blast knocking Thanos over and temporarily out of the game - must be disgustingly low to you.

Or...do you not acknowledge them, because they are Thanos?

Originally posted by quanchi112
should i also bring up when raker had him knocked downed. and had a shovel to ds's dome.

Sure, you can bring that up if you want.

And I'll bring up this little doozey for Thanos...

Originally posted by Desaad
Any chance I can get you to use paragraphs and punctuation? Your posts are exceedingly difficult to wade through.

Absolutely manhandling Orion, in fact. Treating him like he was a toy.

So you're actually trying to use Darkseid beating himself as some sort of bad showing?

You realize, of course, that every Thanos appearance through Infinity Gauntlet operated under the conceit that Thanos was subconsciously sabotaging himself?

Apparently so. When was a younger Darkseid killed by the timestream? Not in that story.

I saw that Darkseid created a way to utterly destroy the universe, though, something that Thanos was incapable of doing for most of his career.

He was thrown in the middle of an untenable situation, in which he had no part in planning. How was he to know that old, used up Darkseid was going to have miscalculated the amount of Dark Matter needed?

No. They didn't.

Against the Old Darkseid, they never did anything. Young Darkseid freed them from their prison, young Darkseid killed Old Darkseid, then once they had served their purpose young Darkseid again imprisoned them by closing his fist.

They didn't "throw" him into anything. They drove him back into it with constant attacks, inch by inch. Again, considering the amount of power on that team at the time, that is actually an EXCELLENT feat for young Darkseid (Hadn't yet absorbed the powers of the pantheons yet).

Right, and they couldn't even if they wanted to, because it was taking everything they had just to push him back.

But what I was getting at is that he wasn't "dismissed as if he was nothing". They clearly did everything they could to get him through there, and STILL couldn't knock him down. Hardly nothing.

You don't believe that. You just don't like the character, and are looking for a way to discredit him.

Either that, or you didn't read the same story I did.

Ridiculous. I've given you the specifics and you KNOW the specifics, so don't act like this really happened.

How can you point to the defeat of a Darkseid who was so weakened he could barely move as any sort of valid showing for the formidability of the current Darkseid?

The fact that he did as much as he did - trapping the Legion, making the clones - is AMAZING considering he was basically a pock-marked old statue. He specifically says he is nearly powerless, which is why he brings his young self from the past.

Sorry, but you are reaching.

ur reaching by considering this story as a feat in any way. he grabbed a different orion who served ds. this wasnt the same orion that wants to kill ds. he grabbed his gun and killed old ds with one shot. old ds got one shotted to death. old ds had prep and got worked by a younger version of himself. younger version needed no prep to beat the older one. so this proves eeven though the older one had all the prep time and a lot more knowlegde that he could beat him on the fly using this weaker version of orion with one shot.
thanos lost in infinity gauntlet becuz he allowed his own defeat. darkseid couldnt get that lucky. people beat him all the time. thanos lost ig after he crushed the competition. he beat all the cosmic heirarchy at once. everyone but lt. ds has never done anything of that. thanos one upped himself in marvels the end.
darkseid was killed by the time stream right before legion went back in time to where they first met. then with two ds at once they divided them and conquered them. ds was whatver u want to call it shoved pushed whatever into a boomtube. he was dealt with. ds did nothing of note to half this team. he just replied "legion" after he got placed back to apokolips.
i did read the same story. its obvious two ds at once meant nothing to this team. the spearated them both and sent one back while superman knocked out old ds for 1000 years. that my friend is pathetic.
this story showed my how darkseid with prep can be crapped on. and how the younger version who stomped him can be clueless as eevr in how to deal with the problem at hand.

Originally posted by Desaad
Sure, you can bring that up if you want.

And I'll bring up this little doozey for Thanos...

heres the difference with this. thanos got himself out of this bad situation. while in the raker fight it was all raker before the fight was stopped. ds didnt lay a hand on him. he just got his ass kicked. and had a shovel keeping him down. lets see morgs axe or rakers shovel which is mightier? 😆 plus thanos defended himself from morgs axe while ds sat there helpless as someone bailed him out.

Originally posted by quanchi112
heres the difference with this. thanos got himself out of this bad situation. while in the raker fight it was all raker before the fight was stopped. ds didnt lay a hand on him. he just got his ass kicked. and had a shovel keeping him down. lets see morgs axe or rakers shovel which is mightier? 😆 plus thanos defended himself from morgs axe while ds sat there helpless as someone bailed him out.

If Raker had done the same to Thanos with a shovel....Thanos would be scared shitless too.

A DC shovel is a multiverse busting artifact in DC comics...were you not aware of that?

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
If Raker had done the same to Thanos with a shovel....Thanos would be scared shitless too.

A DC shovel is a multiverse busting artifact in DC comics...were you not aware of that?

raker didnt need the shovel to put him down...read the comic book. he just needed his ring to knock his ass up and then down. he then pulled the shovel on old ds, so in reality ds was saved from the shovel it never hit him. ds looked pathetic and didnt hit him one time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
raker didnt need the shovel to put him down...read the comic book. he just needed his ring to knock his ass up and then down. he then pulled the shovel on old ds, so in reality ds was saved from the shovel it never hit him. ds looked pathetic and didnt hit him one time.

still, it isn't as bad as losing to Squirrel Girl.

Originally posted by quanchi112
raker didnt need the shovel to put him down...read the comic book. he just needed his ring to knock his ass up and then down. he then pulled the shovel on old ds, so in reality ds was saved from the shovel it never hit him. ds looked pathetic and didnt hit him one time.

Desaad has pwned you quite well. you can add that to your list with me and star. You are a laughing stock. I shall now call you carrie. Becuz they are all gonna laugh at you.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Desaad has pwned you quite well. you can add that to your list with me and star. You are a laughing stock. I shall now call you carrie. Becuz they are all gonna laugh at you.

nvr, don't rub it in...he could be psychotic. He might find where you live and pay you a visit during the night.

😆

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
still, it isn't as bad as losing to Squirrel Girl.
u mean the same story where people were off fighting christmas trees. yeah that comic is such a good comic. it was utter crap. raker though in a good comic beat ds without ds getting in so much as a hit. 😆

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Desaad has pwned you quite well. you can add that to your list with me and star. You are a laughing stock. I shall now call you carrie. Becuz they are all gonna laugh at you.
ive heard ur sill little carrie joke before. u hit me with the same jokes and saying ir popular and all. on a comic book vs forum. 😆 im laughing right now. this is to much ur saying what happens in this forums carries weight in ur life doesnt it. get it carries. ur favorite joke. nice little pun. anyways, back to topic ds gets curbstomped to thanos. hell with prep a younger version of ds crushed the older one with prep. i think u could give ds one sided prep and hed still get manhandled. 😆

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
nvr, don't rub it in...he could be psychotic. He might find where you live and pay you a visit during the night.

😆

no no. u see im straight. 😆

Originally posted by quanchi112
u mean the same story where people were off fighting christmas trees. yeah that comic is such a good comic. it was utter crap. raker though in a good comic beat ds without ds getting in so much as a hit. 😆

😆

Don't matter, it still counts. Thanos has his bad moments too. That is the whole point. In a non PIS or CIS fight, Thanos can not beat DS without a major...and I mean major power up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
ive heard ur sill little carrie joke before. u hit me with the same jokes and saying ir popular and all. on a comic book vs forum. 😆 im laughing right now. this is to much ur saying what happens in this forums carries weight in ur life doesnt it. get it carries. ur favorite joke. nice little pun. anyways, back to topic ds gets curbstomped to thanos. hell with prep a younger version of ds crushed the older one with prep. i think u could give ds one sided prep and hed still get manhandled. 😆

I've already pwned you with prep in DS favor

DS has with prep and HIS OWN POWER AND TECH

Frozen the power of the Godwave
Severly Hurt and Disabled the Anti-monitor
Conquered the Cosmos
Delivered a staggering blow to Imperiex.

These are all things done with his own power and prep.

Now let's look at DS power

He has absorbed the power of Mordrue
He has destroyed time just by removing himself
reached into the firestorm matrix
moved planets with his mind
destroyed pantheon's of Gods
created Stayne
beaten High father
and this is just off top of my head.

Thanos has no feat of prep left up to his own devices that even come close to DS. Thanos is a thief who must use other's powers and resources to accomplish anything.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
😆

Don't matter, it still counts. Thanos has his bad moments too. That is the whole point. In a non PIS or CIS fight, Thanos can not beat DS without a major...and I mean major power up.

alright im not gonna fed the fire but thanos has nevr gotten his ass kicked like ds in aone on one fight. ds has had it happen so many times. not even by abullcrap excuse but by someones fists crushing his face. thanos has never been beten silly then his carcass caried off like ds has.

anyways moving on. ds needs power ups and other men to drain of their powers to even contend with thanos. thanos in ahand to hand fight would curbstomp ds worse than superman has done many times.