World War Hulk vs Superman

Started by Alfheim72 pages
Alfheim Junior Member

Originally posted by Creshosk
Oh yes that's reasonable. His physical power can effect non-physical things... Do we have an actual explination or is it "Hulk was made enough to defy the lasw of physics"?

How?

You dont always need an explanation of why people can do certain things. Thor hammer controls the weather can you please explain in detail whow this is done?

Originally posted by Creshosk

Stop the presses major newsflash! It's a comic book! 😱 Oh ye gods that changes everything because everything and anything that happens in a comic book is well thought out and logical and not PIS in the slightest.

Can I use this argument against your claims of ANYTHING ever being PIS ever again?

It depends on the character. Hulks powers have been shown time and time again to go beyond just the physical therefore its not PIS. Caps maximum is 2 tons if Cap suddenly lifts a lorry with no explanation its PIS.

Originally posted by Creshosk

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Oh alf, never change. Your general lack of knowledge on all subjects amuses me so.

I hope im not the only one who can see this nonsense.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Kutulu
Once again you make yourself look like a fool.

Hulk's powers are not just limited to being physical. It's been proven time and time again.

Which makes perfect sense. doped

Because hey, its a comic book, its okay to be stupid. 🙄

Alfheim Junior Member

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Kutulu Restricted

Originally posted by Creshosk
Which makes perfect sense. doped

Because hey, its a comic book, its okay to be stupid. 🙄

When you have a long history of Hulk affecting energy for 40+ years, and in WWH him actually emitting GREEN ENERGY that towers over skyscrapers, then yes it makes sense.

Alfheim Junior Member
Originally posted by Kutulu
When you have a long history of Hulk affecting energy for 40+ years, and in WWH him actually emitting GREEN ENERGY that towers over skyscrapers, then yes it makes sense.

Im just wondering how hes not going to get this point. *waits*

Kutulu Restricted

Originally posted by Creshosk
Which makes perfect sense. doped

Because hey, its a comic book, its okay to be stupid. 🙄

You have got to be one of the biggest hypocrite on these boards. Superman having sunlight touch his skin, and being able to fly around wearing a cape and underwear on top of his spandex makes perfect sense, yet Hulk a being who emits green light, and can grab energy and effect it his entire career all of a sudden doesn't make sense, because of your deep understanding of quantum mechanics? 🙄

Alfheim Junior Member
Originally posted by Kutulu
You have got to be one of the biggest hypocrite on these boards.

Yup. Furthermore being turned into a big green monster through exposure to radiation doesnt make sense either. 🙄

Kutulu Restricted

Originally posted by Creshosk
Which makes perfect sense. doped

Because hey, its a comic book, its okay to be stupid. 🙄

Please tell me again how someone who can do this is purely physical:

Alfheim Junior Member
Originally posted by Kutulu
Please tell me again how someone who can do this is purely physical:

Ok bro calm down *hold kutulu back* 😂 Theres no need to say no more you made your point. The only appropriate response now is GTFO

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Alfheim
You dont always need an explanation of why people can do certain things. Thor hammer controls the weather can you please explain in detail whow this is done?
Magic is a far better scapegoat that "Because he was angry enough to. sly

Originally posted by Alfheim
It depends on the character. Hulks powers have been shown time and time again to go beyond just the physical therefore its not PIS. Caps maximum is 2 tons if Cap suddenly lifts a lorry with no explanation its PIS.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I hope im not the only one who can see this nonsense.
I'm sure other people can read your posts just fine. 🙂

Originally posted by Kutulu
In regards to the Dark Cosmos feat:
Thank you. It wasn't just Hulk's doing.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Your point is completely invalid on ABC logic, because the Hulk has variating strength levels. When Hulk fought Gladiator, he was weaker than he was during the Sentry fight. Is that simple enough for your weak mind?
Because Superman is equal to the sentry now?

Is that the only way you can explain why hulk wins? Cause he beat other characters?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Argumentitive **** alert!
Why do you feel the need to annouce yourself like that?
Originally posted by Kutulu
You have got to be one of the biggest hypocrite on these boards. Superman having sunlight touch his skin, and being able to fly around wearing a cape and underwear on top of his spandex makes perfect sense, yet Hulk a being who emits green light, and can grab energy and effect it his entire career all of a sudden doesn't make sense, because of your deep understanding of quantum mechanics? 🙄
I'm the biggest hypocrite? You're siding with mister "Superman's feat was stupid, despite making more sense he only did it once. Where as Hulk's isn't stupid because he did this stupid thing multiple times."

Oh if you want to get right down to it. Bruce banner should be dead. Superman has the excuse of having an alievn physiology.

No hypocricy there. Hulk doesn't make the slightest lick of sense. Superman.. eh... marginally so but that's because he has a better scape goat.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Im just wondering how hes not going to get this point. *waits*
Look., more worthless posts from Alfheim! 😄

Not that many if any of his others have any worth. 🙂

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Kutulu
Please tell me again how someone who can do this is purely physical:

Please explain how that makes the slightest bit of sense. I might be thinking too logically sicnce I don't have a shitty grasp of physics... But please, do tell. 🙂

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok bro calm down *hold kutulu back* 😂 Theres no need to say no more you made your point. The only appropriate response now is GTFO
Then: Get the fuck out. sly

Alfheim Junior Member
Originally posted by Creshosk
Magic is a far better scapegoat that "Because he was angry enough to. sly

Yeah so what? Obvously magic can be learnt so there is an explantion to how Thors hammer works. Im pretty sure Odin knows how it works so could you please give me a detailed explantion of how it works?

Kutulu Restricted
Originally posted by Creshosk
Please explain how that makes the slightest bit of sense. I might be thinking too logically sicnce I don't have a shitty grasp of physics... But please, do tell. 🙂

It makes perfect sense if you look at Hulk as more than a physical hero, which you are not doing. That is the point that Alf and I have been trying to prove to you.

Let me put it to you this way, how would you categorize a hero that could do the following:
* Grab energy with his hands
* Lift objects that are far too heavy to be lifted in one spot, without the object crumbling
* See and affect astral forms, such as Dr. Strange while he was in astral form while no other heroes could see it.
* Project energy all around themselves that affects the landmass beneath them
* Trap a phased being such as Vision inside of themselves.
* Grow organs that were not there before in order to breath underwater and survive in outer space.

Would you classify that as only physical? Yes or no.

Alfheim Junior Member

Originally posted by Kutulu
It makes perfect sense if you look at Hulk as more than a physical hero, which you are not doing. That is the point that Alf and I have been trying to prove to you.

Let me put it to you this way, how would you categorize a hero that could do the following:
* Grab energy with his hands
* Lift objects that are far too heavy to be lifted in one spot, without the object crumbling
* See and affect astral forms, such as Dr. Strange while he was in astral form while no other heroes could see it.
* Project energy all around themselves that affects the landmass beneath them
* Trap a phased being such as Vision inside of themselves.
* Grow organs that were not there before in order to breath underwater and survive in outer space.

Would you classify that as only physical? Yes or no.

You can add astral vision to that list and im pretty sure a verison of Hulk beat up on Nightmare...oops my bad its on the list already. 😬

Kutulu Restricted
Originally posted by Alfheim
You can add astral vision to that list and im pretty sure a verison of Hulk beat up on Nightmare...oops my bad its on the list already. 😬

NP. I don't know why people in this forum think that Hulk can only affect physical objects when he has a long history of what I listed. I mean it would be one thing if he only did it in one comic, but when it occurs over and over, you would think that it would be accepted as part of his powerset.

People keep trying to pidgeonhole Hulk into only a physical being, when it's clear that if you look at his history that's not the case. Another example being when the anti-Hulk taskforce manipulated Hulk's DNA, Hulk was able to overcome that and write it back to how it was. A purely physical being would not be able to resist any of the following that Hulk has done:
* Transmutation into stone (aka Gargoyle)
* Transmutation into glass (aka Glazier)
* DNA regression (mutants by their nature gain power from their DNA; Hulk works beyond that)
* Devolution (aka high evolutionary, who's power worked even on the might Galactus, failed on Hulk)
* Being shrunken down (aka Goom).

None of the above would be possible through purely physical (ie mutant) level powers, with maybe the exception of being shrunken down.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah so what? Obvously magic can be learnt so there is an explantion to how Thors hammer works. Im pretty sure Odin knows how it works so could you please give me a detailed explantion of how it works?
Slothful induction. 🙂

Alfheim Junior Member
Originally posted by Creshosk
Slothful induction. 🙂

Well anyway Hulks powers go beyond just the physical its been proven time and time again. Im pretty sure there are loads of superheroes how do not have a detailed explanation of their powers.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Kutulu
It makes perfect sense if you look at Hulk as more than a physical hero, which you are not doing. That is the point that Alf and I have been trying to prove to you.

Let me put it to you this way, how would you categorize a hero that could do the following:
* Grab energy with his hands

Technically yes. That is a physical thing depending on the energy being used. As Matter(physical) is comprised of the same things that energy is. For example Certain forms of radiation such as an alpha particle which is composed of two neutrons and two protons. Which is basically a helium atom with a storng positive charge, I.E. no electrons.

Electrons are a component of stable forms of matter, on their own a flow of electrons is also what makes electricity, another form of energy.

Originally posted by Kutulu
* Lift objects that are far too heavy to be lifted in one spot, without the object crumbling
Mostly this is due to an oversite on the part of the writer. having them lift things which should crumble. It's speculation to infer anything more than simple oversite on the part of the author.

Originally posted by Kutulu
* See and affect astral forms, such as Dr. Strange while he was in astral form while no other heroes could see it.
Psionic energy has in marvel often times been compared to electrical energy. Not identical but similar enough to cause interactions with each other, such as electricity interfering with telepathy or psychokenisis. On this premise its not so farfetched that astral energy being psionic energy (As we know from the association the astral plane has to psionics) is a form of energy that the Hulk is capable of perceiving. Perciving energy is still a physical thing.

Originally posted by Kutulu
* Project energy all around themselves that affects the landmass beneath them
Again I ask that you clearify what form of energy.

Originally posted by Kutulu
* Trap a phased being such as Vision inside of themselves.
Very much a physical thing, as The vision spread his molecule(physical matter) out thus lowering his density in order to "phase" its not a stretch to say that Hulk was made denser. Still a physical thing.

Originally posted by Kutulu
* Grow organs that were not there before in order to breath underwater and survive in outer space.
Adaptation is VERY much a physical thing.

Originally posted by Kutulu
Would you classify that as only physical? Yes or no.
Yeah pretty much.

But it wasn't hulk alone that collapsed that pocket dimension. IT was also the creator of it that was involved. So This has become pointless as it's not really a valid "hulk" feat and has been revealed to be an exageration on the part of the fans.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well anyway Hulks powers go beyond just the physical its been proven time and time again. Im pretty sure there are loads of superheroes how do not have a detailed explanation of their powers.
And I'm still waiting... oh and your argument "Hulk thunderclapped a dimension" argument has been shot down.