World War Hulk vs Superman

Originally posted by h1a8
inbetweener has no feats to form a basis of anything. Everyone bloodied WWH up in that arc. There wasn't an instance where WWH no sold a class 100 attack.

Anyway, characters have to slow down in order for slowers to hit them.

You claimed that since Hulk was able to hit fast beings that he himself must be nearly fast as them. You disregard the notion that faster characters can fight slower to match the slower being for the sake of the plot.

I argue that it's closer to the truth that a faster character is being slowed down to match a slower being vs. a slower character being sped up. My argument is supported by the fact of outside feats. Thing, colossus, hulk, Grundy, etc don't have any outside feats that compare to moving and reacting beyond light speeds.

Which goes to show, that you don't read comics you comment on them as if you were the sole authority, but the Hulk has consistently hit guys moving faster than the eye could see. The Sentry wasn't moving slow when he bull-rushed/attempted to blitz WW Hulk, and yet the Hulk still hit him square on the chin. Your ignoring what has been written several times shows that you are wrong.

The Inbetweener fought Galactus to a standstill, and in that fight they were crushing planets. Who are you trying to kid?

The Hulk took the Thing's full punch to the face, and despite aesthetics, it did absolutely nothing to him. John Romita drew those comics, and he has a way of making characters bleed over anything. When Andrea Devito sketched the X-Men with WW Hulk in it, he barely bled. But besides that, have you ever saw Superman bleed? I have, but then again I read comics.

Once again you are wrong, because you don't know how to find that happy medium between the comic books, where you get all of your knowledge concerning these toon's, and the forum, where you can make sense of certain plot based errors. However the Hulk has consistently, I repeat has consistently hit guys moving at incredible speeds. You want to toss forum rules around? Well there's one that states, that if a character does something once it could be considered as PIS, but if the toon... and here's that word again, CONSISTENTLY keeps doing it, then it is a part of what they can do.

Originally posted by Stoic
Except when you use the comics to come to the realization, that Superman is super fast, because if it wasn't for the comics that you want to ignore through sheer ignorance, you would never know what the characters can do.

The Hulk is fast enough to hit Superman. He shows this kind of speed all of the time, but you, and other like you choose to ignore it. You are wrong, and always will be wrong, until you are able to find a happy medium between both the forum, and the comics in which these unrealistic , and fictional wars are derived.

If he did it once it is considered PIS by forum rules, but if it consistently happens, you can't cry to momma about it any longer. So no he isn't right.

No. Frequent pis is still pis. It doesn't matter how many times Slade hits Flash. If it happened the majority of Wally's career, it would still be considered pis.

Because Deathstroke is in no way, shape, or form as fast as Flash. There's nothing in his power set to justify it, and Wally's feats of speed are worth more then Slades nonsensical showings.

Originally posted by cdtm
No. Frequent pis is still pis. It doesn't matter how many times Slade hits Flash. If it happened the majority of Wally's career, it would still be considered pis.

Because Deathstroke is in no way, shape, or form as fast as Flash. There's nothing in his power set to justify it, and Wally's feats of speed are worth more then Slades nonsensical showings.

yes there is. His mind is his greatest weapon. Like he told Wally before "You never change" as Wally runs into his sword. Slade didn't have to move, he let the Flash do himself in. However lets not use this as a distraction, because Deathstroke is not the Hulk, and the Hulk has hit fast characters enough times for us to come to an understanding that he can actually react, and move fast enough to consistently hit these guys. Unless you want to go ignore the stories that you read like h1a8 does frequently.

I called for Carver to enter this thread hours ago and he has yet to show up. That dude has very few responsibilities on KMC. Debate in Hulk threads, annoy Pr, irk Abhi and h1a8. When you guys see Carver, tell him The Lizodfather is disappointed. sneer

Originally posted by Stoic
Which goes to show, that you don't read comics you comment on them as if you were the sole authority, but the Hulk has consistently hit guys moving faster than the eye could see. The Sentry wasn't moving slow when he bull-rushed/attempted to blitz WW Hulk, and yet the Hulk still hit him square on the chin. Your ignoring what has been written several times shows that you are wrong.

The Inbetweener fought Galactus to a standstill, and in that fight they were crushing planets. Who are you trying to kid?

The Hulk took the Thing's full punch to the face, and despite aesthetics, it did absolutely nothing to him. John Romita drew those comics, and he has a way of making characters bleed over anything. When Andrea Devito sketched the X-Men with WW Hulk in it, he barely bled. But besides that, have you ever saw Superman bleed? I have, but then again I read comics.

Once again you are wrong, because you don't know how to find that happy medium between the comic books, where you get all of your knowledge concerning these toon's, and the forum, where you can make sense of certain plot based errors. However the Hulk has consistently, I repeat has consistently hit guys moving at incredible speeds. You want to toss forum rules around? Well there's one that states, that if a character does something once it could be considered as PIS, but if the toon... and here's that word again, CONSISTENTLY keeps doing it, then it is a part of what they can do.

This is the truth. PIS is something that goes against comic facts because of the plot.

Originally posted by Stoic
Abhi, didn't you get the memo? No one is stronger than the Hulk. He is as strong as the story needs him to be, and that has always been the way it was, and always will be. The Hulk is so strong, that his internal organ were able to take a pull powered hit from Hope, a being that registered 133.45 Herc's.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=571911&pagenumber=12

The Hulk is so strong that he matched half of the Inbetweener's power output, and it was taxing him to keep up. That's abstract strength brother.

And Order is no Abstract. He gets oneshotted by King Thor.

Originally posted by h1a8
there are infinitely many levels of superspeed, all being faster than the human eye can see. For example, a bullet is faster than the human eye can see, but light is hundreds of thousands of times faster. Hulk being superhuman fast doesn't mean he is fast as Superman, not even close. If these two beings existed then Superman would see Hulk as a frozen statue.

This is the truth. PIS is something that goes against comic facts because of the plot.

You don't get. The Hulk hit a guy that can move just as fast as Superman. This is not the first time that he has been able to do this. He also did not allow Gladiator to go postal on him. Thanos does not fly, but this did not stop him from hitting a being that moves faster than light when he took the Fallen one out. Everything that you read in a comic book is plot based. None of it is real, if these toons are said, and shown to be able to do something. Well they can do just that. This isn't real life physics, it's comic book physics. In real life, a guy moving at mach 8 with a suit of armor would get his head torn off by the G forces at work.

The Hulk in a comic book will hit Superman, because comics aren't made to make sense, they're made to entertain. If you have trouble believing me why not test the waters? Climb up on a 2 story tall building, and jump off landing on your feet, and then when you get the casts off, come back and share with us what you experienced. Hey Batman can do it.

Its good then this is KMC, not comics.

w00t

Originally posted by Badabing
I called for Carver to enter this thread hours ago and he has yet to show up. That dude has very few responsibilities on KMC. Debate in Hulk threads, annoy Pr, irk Abhi and h1a8. When you guys see Carver, tell him The Lizodfather is disappointed. sneer

😂

It's not funny, carter. We're all disappointed.

1 month ban should teach you a lesson uhuh

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's not funny, carter. We're all disappointed.

1 month ban should teach you a lesson uhuh

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its good then this is KMC, not comics.

w00t

WW Hulk wins.

Originally posted by Badabing
I called for Carver to enter this thread hours ago and he has yet to show up. That dude has very few responsibilities on KMC. Debate in Hulk threads, annoy Pr, irk Abhi and h1a8. When you guys see Carver, tell him The Lizodfather is disappointed. sneer

I must be getting old, as I really don't care nearly as much as I used to. 🙁

Anyway, preboot wins, ndcu loses, etc.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Where heroes die and we don't ignore showings.

Unlike full capacity rules. 😉

Fights should be held in the rules forum, seeing it's just a barren wasteland with no people anywhere, ever.

Originally posted by cdtm
Unlike full capacity rules. 😉

Fights should be held in the rules forum, seeing it's just a barren wasteland with no people anywhere, ever.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Where heroes die and we don't ignore showings.

WW Hulk wins.

Exactly, forum debates don't allow for us to just ignore what was written. Well said.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are free to ignore showings but that isn't being objective it is being selective.

Picking showings where someone looks bad or has an off day to lowball then, that's selective. Or worse yet, using someone winning because of their status (like Captain America, who won't lose to b or c listers because he's an a lister)

Nah man, arguing Superman gets hit by someone slower then him because it happens in comics, that's selective. Full capacity rule is intended to cut out cherry picking for the lowball. Sort of a reverse Spiderman vs Firelord rule. (Otherwise, Firelord loses to anyone Spidey ever beat, in addition to Spidey himself.)

Originally posted by cdtm
Picking showings where someone looks bad or has an off day to lowball then, that's selective. Or worse yet, using someone winning because of their status (like Captain America, who won't lose to b or c listers because he's an a lister)

Nah man, arguing Superman gets hit by someone slower then him because it happens in comics, that's selective. Full capacity rule is intended to cut out cherry picking for the lowball. Sort of a reverse Spiderman vs Firelord rule. (Otherwise, Firelord loses to anyone Spidey ever beat, in addition to Spidey himself.)

This doesn't make on bit of sense. So you debate based off powerset? It doesn't work like that. If it did, Surfer and Thor would be near unbeatable by ANY Herald.

^He NEVER mentioned power set, you are trying to corrupt his argument amigo