Originally posted by carver9
His argument is based completely off powerset while ignoring personality. Surfer doesn't use a tenth of his power during battle, so why would I bring up him fighting any different on KMC?
Not really, He just mentioned someone with an incredible amount of power loosing vs someone like Spiderman, because of jobbing, just like when Hulk lost to that snake.
If you don't have a problem seeing Hulk "in character" loosing to a snake, I guess We are ok. 😛
Originally posted by cdtmNo, I accept all showings. Full capacity is fine and dandy but I don't ignore their best showings. I also believe the personalities of the characters come into play hence why you won't see me arguing Thor god blasts in every thread or bfrs. By arguing full capacity Thor doesn't fight like Thor typically fights. Whether you disagree with me or not I am as consistent as they come.
Picking showings where someone looks bad or has an off day to lowball then, that's selective. Or worse yet, using someone winning because of their status (like Captain America, who won't lose to b or c listers because he's an a lister)Nah man, arguing Superman gets hit by someone slower then him because it happens in comics, that's selective. Full capacity rule is intended to cut out cherry picking for the lowball. Sort of a reverse Spiderman vs Firelord rule. (Otherwise, Firelord loses to anyone Spidey ever beat, in addition to Spidey himself.)
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Not really, He just mentioned someone with an incredible amount of power loosing vs someone like Spiderman, because of jobbing, just like when Hulk lost to that snake.If you don't have a problem seeing Hulk "in character" loosing to a snake, I guess We are ok. 😛
I've never complained about any of Hulk defeats, kind of like you dont complain when Shadowdragon speedblitzed Superman. It happens. Now if Hulk CONSISTENTLY got beat up by snakes and bears, then I dont have a choice but to accept it. His argument isn't about that though, his argument is based off powerset and it doesn't work like that.
@Pr,
I read a lot of Surfer.
Originally posted by carver9
I've never complained about any of Hulk defeats, kind of like you dont complain when Shadowdragon speedblitzed Superman. It happens. Now if Hulk CONSISTENTLY got beat up by snakes and bears, then I dont have a choice but to accept it. His argument isn't about that though, his argument is based off powerset and it doesn't work like that.@Pr,
I read a lot of Surfer.
I don't believe you.
Still, maybe you just don't know the difference between power and potential. Then there's the actual character himself.
shrug
Closing this soon anyway. Yet another Superman V Hulk thread where people can't behave. Might just have to ban them altogether like last time.
Originally posted by carver9
15 plus yrs ago.
15? I think it was a lot longer than that. Byrne was at the top of his game in those days. Anyways anyone saying that the Hulk would not be able to hit Superman probably are trying to ignore the way that he fights. Of course we can argue that he would fly up into orbit, and keep beaming him with heat ray vision, which would be completely out of character for him. Superman is an in fighter. He does use speed, but the Hulk has dealt with speed too many times in his history to say that he wouldn't be able to deal with it here. I kind of hope that -Pr- does close this up, because the people shouting low ball, are the ones doing it.
Originally posted by Stoic
15? I think it was a lot longer than that. Byrne was at the top of his game in those days. Anyways anyone saying that the Hulk would not be able to hit Superman probably are trying to ignore the way that he fights. Of course we can argue that he would fly up into orbit, and keep beaming him with heat ray vision, which would be completely out of character for him. Superman is an in fighter. He does use speed, but the Hulk has dealt with speed too many times in his history to say that he wouldn't be able to deal with it here. I kind of hope that -Pr- does close this up, because the people shouting low ball, are the ones doing it.
Yeah, I know. I just couldn't guess right off the top of my head, so I went with the best choice and added plus to it. The guy that asked the question cant stand Hulk. He could at least keep up with the character he tends to lowball. But whatever.
Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
Well let's see here stoic. If the next time a hulk comic comes out and we see hulk get overpowered by someone like black widow would you want everyone bringing up this feat all the time or would you rather use higher feats
I don't understand your point? Who would BW be representing, and who would the Hulk be representing? Are you saying that Sentry jobbed? Just be clear.
Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
I'm sayin if someone like the hulk had crappy feats but also had good ones, would you want people to use the lower or higher feats.
Thats the thing though. Its almost hard to find any low showings on WWH. Its pretty much next to impossible, so your argument is flawed.
Originally posted by God Cloth Seiya
I'm sayin if someone like the hulk had crappy feats but also had good ones, would you want people to use the lower or higher feats.
But both Superman, and the Hulk, not to mention every single Hero that was created has good and bad feats. If you pull out OWAW Superman, I don't think that it would be fair, because the Mod's will not allow us to pull out WB Hulk who was WW Hulk. If you concentrate on the bad feats it's obviously a low ball. Who did this?