Originally posted by Creshosk
See? Discard my reasons and insert your own as "the turth". Thanks for proving my point. 😉
You had the time and effort to type out a massive piece of text regarding my reply, but saw no point in actually replying. There's no sense in that.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Hey we already saw that you lacked reading comprehension. So if you're not smart enough to understand something its not my fault.
Read the passage back to yourself and realise why it's entirely made of fail and hypocricy.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Debate? What debate? Now we're just dealing with you're defensively lashing out at me over stupid stuff because I proved your points wrong quite easily. Seriously. I let slip one British insult and you attack me on that. I showed that I knew more about your culture in a given area and once again you attack me on it.
You haven't shown me that you know more about anything. You've known me you can name more ENGLISH dialects than I can name American, what does that prove? Nothing at all. You are yet to prove you know anything of real British CULTURE outside of "This is a ____ accent." etc. You think if you went to Sheffield you would blend in just because you know why they talk that way, as opposed to everything else that's RELEVANT about culture? No.
You certainly don't know more about British culture than I do, but since you've tried to claim that you do, without even stepping foot in the country, let's see. Give us a taste of what you know.
Originally posted by Creshosk
If you were seriously debating you wouldn't be spiraling into a flame war and would be proving your points. And not by attacking me. cause ad hominem argument are invalid arguments.
If you wish to quit whining and actually heed your own words, I'd be grateful. You can name more English dialects than I can name American, nice. Cookie and cream for you.
Now, what do you know about actual culture? You've met SOME British people, but that's individual, what do you know about the English culture/s? You don't have any first hand experience, so what do you have? I have first hand experience over there in America, Canada, Spain. I've integrated with many groups of people from all over, what have you done besides gone to the library, learned names of English accents and made a friend? Honestly. I'm asking questions, if you are interpreting it as flaming, it's just cos I'm burning you.
Originally posted by Creshosk
*sigh* their dress, their food, their language. Their history you name it. When I get interested in a subject I absorb as much as I can about that subject. Almost to an obsessive point until I'm satisfied. Thought that would be plainly obvious by me knowing the names of and where each dialect is spoken. Seems a bit obsessive to study that much don't it?
Don't just say it, prove it. Anybody can say they know this and that, but can you actually prove it? From what I know, you know nothing outside of books. There's more to British culture than you'll ever find in a book, dear boy. The important stuff can't be read.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Not much different than a traveling American that becomes a bother to the locals is it? Whoopie, you traveled there. doesn't mean you've shown any appreciation or understanding of the other culture.
🙄 There's that reading comprehension thing again.. or is it a selective memory because you were even snarky about a former best friend of mine. Yet here you don't even acknowledge his existence.
I'm openly asking you many things and you've not backed up anything you've said yet. You act as if your book reading is paramount and me actually travelling and experiencing other cultures first hand is just some frivolous addition to the debate, when in fact, it's the best way to get involved with culture.
Would you say you've experienced a live rock band by reading their gig review? No. You may know everything that happened, but you've never experienced it like someone who was there.
Originally posted by Creshosk
You're just sore because I showed more knowledge than you. and now you're not debating you're just attacking. I picked an area of expertise last time, so now its your turn to show you know something about american culture. Bring something up like I did, and challenge e directly rather than youre annoying "just to attack you" vaugeness. It'd nice to note you've given in on the accents thing.
Sore? I openly admitted you can name more dialects in my country than I can in yours. It is of no concern to me simply because I then went on to ask you why that even matters in the grand scheme of discussion, and you dodged like Agent Smith. You've never been to England, you've never experienced the culture, you're book-taught, and that means nothing in this case.
You'll keep dodging that side of the debate because you know for a fact I'm right, don't you? (Question.). You know that if you start saying shit about English culture, and you happen to be wrong, I will know, so you're avoiding showing us you're "knowledge" outside of dialects, aren't you? (Question.).
If you've got nothing to be afraid of, let's hear it. What exactly have books told you? What do you know?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Then pose direct questions rather than vaugness. Name something. And you'd best be knowledgeable in the American equivilent or else it won't really prove who knows more about what... other than if I get it right.
I'm not gonna ask you something you can Google. I'm asking you about English culture, because as an Englishman myself, I can tell you there's elements you simply cannot learn in books. So you're a book-taught anglophile it seems. Tell me randomly what you know of English culture, specifically from say...London.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Hardly, it comes quite easy to me actually. But you won't accept that as the truth, because you didn't make it up.
No, it's just the out-of-place usage and repeated usage that makes it seem like you're trying hard. If you're not, congrats.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Never said I knew nothing else, imbecile. YHou're the one whos assuming that. When clearly you're the one who doesn't know about American culture like you've already confessed to.
Where did I confess I don't know about American culture? I swear I just said you can name more dialects in my country than I can in yours. Culture is much, much, much more than dialects. Knowing dialects essentially means nothing. I have first hand experience in American culture, you have none. I can go to New York and integrate with people there because I am used to the way life is generally lived there, the mannerisms etc. You couldn't come to London and fit in because you can name our dialect, that's not how it works.
As time passes, you reveal that you are actually really ignorant to what matters about culture, and in stereotypical American fashion, you're acting like you are smart and knowing just because you went to the library and met a Brit.
Originally posted by Creshosk
And why should you? You're not an American, that you've shown such disdain for. Why should I know a thing about anything British? I'm not a Brit. And yet here we are with me already having shown that I do know things. and you being a big fat sorehead over it.
You've shown me you can name dialects, only because you actually went and read about them. You haven't shown ME anything else beyond that. I have no disdain for Americans, not sure where you got that from.
Originally posted by Creshosk
What question mark? What speculation? All I see is a statement of attack.
Statement of attack? Talk about taking things too seriously. I accused you of dodging my post, and it's an attack. You sit there actually using derogatory words and somehow it slips your notice, very hypocritical.
Originally posted by Creshosk
And yet he attacks me for having taken the time to study it when its not really relivant to my everyday life.
I never attacked you for having the time to study anything, I was curious as to why you did. You have a really loose definition of "attack". It seems as though all I need do is reply in a way that makes you look silly and it's an attack.
I don't need to read books on American culture, I don't need to study how many dialects there are so I can sit here and brag about how I know about Americans, that'd be ignorant, like what you're doing. Me? I prefer the route of actually visiting the country, experiencing it through my own eyes and senses with friends and family who actually live in these places. You go to the library and come away acting like you know more because you can name dialects.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Sounds much like one of those annoying americans that expects everyone to adapt to his culture but refuses to learn anyhting about anothers... Cause hey you don't need to learn about our culture, but we're obviously not as smart if we don't know about yours.
Me saying I didn't need to study it does not equate to me saying I didn't need to/want to learn. It just means I didn't need to forcefully sit in my own country, reading, then acting like I knew. I actually went there.
You have a lot to say in your upcoming reply, I'll be very much looking forward to this, now that we've moved on from your prized area of "I can name 30 English dialects.".
-AC