Originally posted by Robtard
I can't imagine repetitively watching a comedy show where I either didn't understand the humor or it just wasn't humorous to me, e.g. "Larry the Cableguy". Might as well watch baseball games solely because 'you' like looking at bats.
Because you aren't one of them.
There's a reason that when I went to New York City or anywhere else I've been in America, friends and friends of friends more or less mobbed me when I spoke. "OH MY GOD! YOU'RE FROM ENGLAND!", it's as if I was an alien. You never hear that happening here, or with someone from Russia etc.
It's specifically England, there's an undeniable fascination with it and it's, in my opinion, due to under-exposure.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Because you aren't one of them.There's a reason that when I went to New York City or anywhere else I've been in America, friends and friends of friends more or less mobbed me when I spoke. "OH MY GOD! YOU'RE FROM ENGLAND!", it's as if I was an alien. You never hear that happening here, or with someone from Russia etc.
It's specifically England, there's an undeniable fascination with it and it's, in my opinion, due to under-exposure.
-AC
I take it these were young people? Because that just sounds silly.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriIt's not just Brits in America that get this. I have been to Russia and to parts of Europe, and every time I turned around, someone was begging me to say something like "Howdy" or "Pilgrim."
Because you aren't one of them.There's a reason that when I went to New York City or anywhere else I've been in America, friends and friends of friends more or less mobbed me when I spoke. "OH MY GOD! YOU'RE FROM ENGLAND!", it's as if I was an alien. You never hear that happening here, or with someone from Russia etc.
It's specifically England, there's an undeniable fascination with it and it's, in my opinion, due to under-exposure.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWhat point was there? More of your bullshit and half-assed assumptions that I didn't bother to read because they were YOUR halfassed bullshit. And I found the meat of it all. You claim that Europeans know more about American Culture than American s know about european culture. And then we prove that that which is at the heart of the matter just isn't true.
A) Nice job dodging the rest of the post.
Beyond that what is that? I know you're too full of yourself to accept anything that's true as the truth because you yourself are a pompous arrogant git.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriThen do it. name ALL of the American english dialects that aren't due soloy to foreign influence. (know english with a russian accent, or japanese etc).
B) I asked you if you wanted it more specific.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWhich are part of a culture. Just because you're weak in it and it doesn't suit you doesn't mean you can discard it.
C) We're discussing cultures, not specific linguistics or accents and dialects.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriAnd despite your having traveled to America you still don't know everything about the American culture. Simply traveling to a place means nothing if you don't bother to learn anything. I didn 't have to travel to England to learn about its culture. You traveled to America and didn't learn that which I didn't need to travel to learn.
D) The very fact that you didn't know enough of England, living in America, and cared enough to research all 30 English dialects is, while respectable, very good at proving my point.
Cheers mate.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriBecause I wanted to. Watching the shows with my grandmother got me interested in learning more. But I've already told you that, so now I must ask if your reading comprehension problems are due to choice or if you really can't understand what's written in front of you sometimes?
Why did you feel the "personal need" to study our culture?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriFunny, this is what I meant about you being a pompous arrogant git. You discarded my reason and inserted your own and then think that it rpoves your point. Well it actuall does the opposite. Your point was that you couldn't or that it was hard. While my studying your culture shows just the opposite. It was easy and obviously possible. However your other point about American culture being so abudant there that you don't need to study seems like it was wrong as well because you only tried to list off four.
Did you perhaps feel like you weren't being taught enough about it there? Cos that'd kind of prove my point.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriI did study Russia as well. Took "East European studies" in the 7th grade from Mr. Austen, who also happened to be the U.S. History teeacher.
Why didn't you pick Russia?
Yes that's right, some of my studying was done IN SCHOOL.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriTell that to Janice. She got mobbed by guys because she was from Russia. She eventually picked my friend who wasn't mobbing her but was polite to her.
Because you aren't one of them.There's a reason that when I went to New York City or anywhere else I've been in America, friends and friends of friends more or less mobbed me when I spoke. "OH MY GOD! YOU'RE FROM ENGLAND!", it's as if I was an alien. You never hear that happening here, or with someone from Russia etc.
It's specifically England, there's an undeniable fascination with it and it's, in my opinion, due to under-exposure.
-AC
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
so if I had said Eddie Murphy, you'd have said he stole his act from Richard Pryor?
Denis Leary more or less directly ripped segments from Bill Hicks. Some of which are nearly verbatim.
Originally posted by Creshosk
What point was there? More of your bullshit and half-assed assumptions that I didn't bother to read because they were YOUR halfassed bullshit. And I found the meat of it all. You claim that Europeans know more about American Culture than American s know about european culture. And then we prove that that which is at the heart of the matter just isn't true.Beyond that what is that? I know you're too full of yourself to accept anything that's true as the truth because you yourself are a pompous arrogant git.
You won't reply to my post because you can't, it's nothing to do with you not wanting to bother, cos you're willing to put that much into replying to me about how you dislike the post itself. At least have the decency to admit it.
If you wanna make sense out of that last part and then try formulating a coherent post, I'd be happy to reply.
Also, congrats on saying "git", yes. Very British of you, Mr. Tryhard.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Then do it. name ALL of the American english dialects that aren't due soloy to foreign influence. (know english with a russian accent, or japanese etc).Which are part of a culture. Just because you're weak in it and it doesn't suit you doesn't mean you can discard it.
You know more dialects than me, congratulations. Weak in it? Just because it's ALL you know, doesn't mean you can keep the debate on it, either. I asked you what else you knew, or to give me some kind of rundown about what exactly you studied, you have yet to do so.
Originally posted by Creshosk
And despite your having traveled to America you still don't know everything about the American culture. Simply traveling to a place means nothing if you don't bother to learn anything. I didn 't have to travel to England to learn about its culture. You traveled to America and didn't learn that which I didn't need to travel to learn.
Who said I wanted to know everything? I certainly didn't.
What an utterly ridiculous point. You know more dialects than I do, but I have actually been to America multiple times an experienced the cultures through interaction with people and learned that which is necessary. What do you know beyond dialects about my country? Do you actually have any first hand experience with British culture outside of learning which dialects are which, out of books?
No? Because that would mean you don't have any experience or knowledge worth having. You think it means anything to be able to name accents? Learning about culture is studying how people interact, mannerisms and customs, not something so base as accent and twang.
So now I expect answers from you, not weaselling, answers.
Hahaha, "Cheers mate.", try any harder and you'll pop a vessel.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Because I wanted to. Watching the shows with my grandmother got me interested in learning more. But I've already told you that, so now I must ask if your reading comprehension problems are due to choice or if you really can't understand what's written in front of you sometimes?
You wanted to learn about British culture based on fictional shows, and that's got you as far as what? Knowing all 30 dialects and nothing else? Odd.
Originally posted by Creshosk
You discarded my reason and inserted your own and then think that it rpoves your point. Well it actuall does the opposite. Your point was that you couldn't or that it was hard. While my studying your culture shows just the opposite. It was easy and obviously possible. However your other point about American culture being so abudant there that you don't need to study seems like it was wrong as well because you only tried to list off four.
A) Note the question mark, I asked if that was why.
B) I said I didn't need to study American culture because that which is relevant, I have already experienced. You won't be able to integrate better here by knowing why people sound the way they do, culture is deeper and more intricate than those elements, it needs first hand experience. I have lots, you have Red Dwarf.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriSo? you dont think Eddie Murphy stole shit from Richard Pryor, and Richard Pryor from Redd Foxx?
Denis Leary more or less directly ripped segments from Bill Hicks. Some of which are nearly verbatim.-AC
BTW: Guess who one of Bill Hicks biggest influences was ? RICHARD PRYOR. and Bill Hicks was born in Georgia, so that makes him an American, before you try to claim credit for him.
Do you have a point, or do you just enjoy flapping your gums? My guess is it is the latter.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So? you dont think Eddie Murphy stole shit from Richard Pryor, and Richard Pryor from Redd Foxx?BTW: Guess who one of Bill Hicks biggest influences was ? RICHARD PRYOR. and Bill Hicks was born in Georgia, so that makes him an American, before you try to claim credit for him.
Do you have a point, or do you just enjoy flapping your gums? My guess is it is the latter.
I'm well aware that Bill Hicks is an American and I'm not trying to claim anyone, you insecure, strange man.
Chill out.
I'm not going to guess who MIGHT have stole what from who, I KNOW Leary more or less copied Hicks WORD FOR WORD on a lot of stuff.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriSee? Discard my reasons and insert your own as "the turth". Thanks for proving my point. 😉
You won't reply to my post because you can't, it's nothing to do with you not wanting to bother, cos you're willing to put that much into replying to me about how you dislike the post itself. At least have the decency to admit it.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriHey we already saw that you lacked reading comprehension. So if you're not smart enough to understand something its not my fault.
If you wanna make sense out of that last part and then try formulating a coherent post, I'd be happy to reply.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriNaw, I'm a mirror. The longer I argue with a person the more of their language and mannerisms I slip into.
Also, congrats on saying "git", yes. Very British of you, Mr. Tryhard.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriOh please... 🙄
You know more dialects than me, congratulations. Weak in it? Just because it's ALL you know,
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriDebate? What debate? Now we're just dealing with you're defensively lashing out at me over stupid stuff because I proved your points wrong quite easily. Seriously. I let slip one British insult and you attack me on that. I showed that I knew more about your culture in a given area and once again you attack me on it.
doesn't mean you can keep the debate on it, either.
If you were seriously debating you wouldn't be spiraling into a flame war and would be proving your points. And not by attacking me. cause ad hominem argument are invalid arguments.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri*sigh* their dress, their food, their language. Their history you name it. When I get interested in a subject I absorb as much as I can about that subject. Almost to an obsessive point until I'm satisfied. Thought that would be plainly obvious by me knowing the names of and where each dialect is spoken. Seems a bit obsessive to study that much don't it?
I asked you what else you knew, or to give me some kind of rundown about what exactly you studied, you have yet to do so.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWho said you wanted to know anything? You certainly didn't.
Who said I wanted to know everything? I certainly didn't.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriNot much different than a traveling American that becomes a bother to the locals is it? Whoopie, you traveled there. doesn't mean you've shown any appreciation or understanding of the other culture.
What an utterly ridiculous point. You know more dialects than I do, but I have actually been to America multiple times an experienced the cultures through interaction with people and learned that which is necessary.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri🙄 There's that reading comprehension thing again.. or is it a selective memory because you were even snarky about a former best friend of mine. Yet here you don't even acknowledge his existence.
What do you know beyond dialects about my country? Do you actually have any first hand experience with British culture outside of learning which dialects are which, out of books?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriOh I see, you're defining what's true again aren't you? You asked a rhetorical question that you weren't expecting an answer to cause you answered it yourself because you think you're oh so clever in answering the questions you ask for me. And this, you blithering buffoon, is why I didn't bother with one of your posts. Why should I bother? I proved my point now all you have left is to attack me.
No?
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriYou're just sore because I showed more knowledge than you. and now you're not debating you're just attacking. I picked an area of expertise last time, so now its your turn to show you know something about american culture. Bring something up like I did, and challenge e directly rather than youre annoying "just to attack you" vaugeness. It'd nice to note you've given in on the accents thing.
Because that would mean you don't have any experience or knowledge worth having. You think it means anything to be able to name accents? Learning about culture is studying how people interact, mannerisms and customs, not something so base as accent and twang.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriThen pose direct questions rather than vaugness. Name something. And you'd best be knowledgeable in the American equivilent or else it won't really prove who knows more about what... other than if I get it right.
So now I expect answers from you, not weaselling, answers.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriHardly, it comes quite easy to me actually. But you won't accept that as the truth, because you didn't make it up.
Hahaha, "Cheers mate.", try any harder and you'll pop a vessel.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriNever said I knew nothing else, imbecile. YHou're the one whos assuming that. When clearly you're the one who doesn't know about American culture like you've already confessed to. And why should you? You're not an American, that you've shown such disdain for. Why should I know a thing about anything British? I'm not a Brit. And yet here we are with me already having shown that I do know things. and you being a big fat sorehead over it.
You wanted to learn about British culture based on fictional shows, and that's got you as far as what? Knowing all 30 dialects and nothing else? Odd.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
A) Note the question mark, I asked if that was why.
"A) Nice job dodging the rest of the post."
What question mark? What speculation? All I see is a statement of attack.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriAnybody else find this funny in a sad way?
B) I said I didn't need to study American culture because that which is relevant, I have already experienced. You won't be able to integrate better here by knowing why people sound the way they do, culture is deeper and more intricate than those elements, it needs first hand experience. I have lots, you have Red Dwarf.
"I said I didn't need to study American culture "
And yet he attacks me for having taken the time to study it when its not really relivant to my everyday life.
Sounds much like one of those annoying americans that expects everyone to adapt to his culture but refuses to learn anyhting about anothers... Cause hey you don't need to learn about our culture, but we're obviously not as smart if we don't know about yours.
Originally posted by Creshoskhe is the type of guy who gives Brits a bad name. crass, smug, frigging know it alls with a holier than thou attitude.
That's just the Air Conditioner's usual air of superiority he puts on about himself.He wasn't claiming anything, despite his disdain for Americans.
Pretty pathetic.
Originally posted by Rogue JediYup. All you said here is true. other than the know it all thing. that one is a bit more complex. He admits to not knowing American culture but somehow he's still smug about it.
he is the type of guy who gives Brits a bad name. crass, smug, frigging know it alls with a holier than thou attitude.Pretty pathetic.
Originally posted by RobtardYeah, That's it exactly. First Time I encountered this chuffer was back in the Comic vs forum. He was as much of a ponce then as now. Buncha people started talking about how I owned him in one thread and he got rather sore about it. Haven't seen him there since.
AC = Air ConditioningThat's the angle I assume he's taking.