God placing the universe

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God placing the universe

I got thinking about this the other day when watching a science show on the Moon, and a comment posted from JIA. When God created the universe and "perfectly placed" the Moon, Sun and all the other planets why are they not perfect? The Moon's orbit is slowly moving away from the Earth at a rare of about 3.8 centimeters per year which effect much of the life on Earth and will eventually moved pass the Earth pull and leave, this doesn't sound "perfect" to me. Why would God create all of these "flaws" if he had the divine power to place them? 😮

Well I believe God created existence and then let evolution or whatever to run it's natural course.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
I got thinking about this the other day when watching a science show on the Moon, and a comment posted from JIA. When God created the universe and "perfectly placed" the Moon, Sun and all the other planets why are they not perfect? The Moon's orbit is slowly moving away from the Earth at a rare of about 3.8 centimeters per year which effect much of the life on Earth and will eventually moved pass the Earth pull and leave, this doesn't sound "perfect" to me. Why would God create all of these "flaws" if he had the divine power to place them? 😮

Universe created everything in it, including ourselves. Therefore, Universe is God.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
I got thinking about this the other day when watching a science show on the Moon, and a comment posted from JIA. When God created the universe and "perfectly placed" the Moon, Sun and all the other planets why are they not perfect? The Moon's orbit is slowly moving away from the Earth at a rare of about 3.8 centimeters per year which effect much of the life on Earth and will eventually moved pass the Earth pull and leave, this doesn't sound "perfect" to me. Why would God create all of these "flaws" if he had the divine power to place them? 😮

Thank goodness the moon has been moving that distance constantly and its orbit could never, ever be disrupted by any means.

Re: God placing the universe

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
I got thinking about this the other day when watching a science show on the Moon, and a comment posted from JIA. When God created the universe and "perfectly placed" the Moon, Sun and all the other planets why are they not perfect? The Moon's orbit is slowly moving away from the Earth at a rare of about 3.8 centimeters per year which effect much of the life on Earth and will eventually moved pass the Earth pull and leave, this doesn't sound "perfect" to me. Why would God create all of these "flaws" if he had the divine power to place them? 😮

God does not excist and there is no divinity, its simply foolish religion

there are probably a million and one flaws we could find if we had the space age technology of the year 10,000 or something crazy number, if we ever live that long well prob finally throw off religion after we realise all these flaws and new laws of science

Originally posted by FeceMan
Thank goodness the moon has been moving that distance constantly and its orbit could never, ever be disrupted by any means.

I have to agree. If the moon had not been closer to the Earth 4 billion years ago, then there would not have been large tides that swept over the young Earth and therefore no life. It was this huge "washing machine effect" that started life.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Universe created everything in it, including ourselves. Therefore, Universe is God.

Now that's a matter of definition.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
I got thinking about this the other day when watching a science show on the Moon, and a comment posted from JIA. When God created the universe and "perfectly placed" the Moon, Sun and all the other planets why are they not perfect? The Moon's orbit is slowly moving away from the Earth at a rare of about 3.8 centimeters per year which effect much of the life on Earth and will eventually moved pass the Earth pull and leave, this doesn't sound "perfect" to me. Why would God create all of these "flaws" if he had the divine power to place them? 😮
According to all known laws of physics, the Moon is doing exactly what it should be doing. Everything is working perfectly. 😈

While I know that the universe and the planets are behaving they way they should be but if God had a divine plan for us why would he make the moon leave our orbit, the sun expand and destroy our solar system and meteors bombard our planet?

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
While I know that the universe and the planets are behaving they way they should be but if God had a divine plan for us why would he make the moon leave our orbit, the sun expand and destroy our solar system and meteors bombard our planet?

Well everything has to come to an end at some point. Dont see whats the problem with that. For now everything works just fine.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well everything has to come to an end at some point. Dont see whats the problem with that. For now everything works just fine.
This is the thing that I’m talking about, if God placed all these planets there shouldn’t be any “flaws” and when thing need to come to an end why would he need the moon to leave Earth’s orbit or the Sun to destroy our solar system and not just do it for himself?

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
This is the thing that I’m talking about, if God placed all these planets there shouldn’t be any “flaws”

What flaws?

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS

and when thing need to come to an end why would he need the moon to leave Earth’s orbit or the Sun to destroy our solar system and not just do it for himself?

...well it could be argued he is doing it for himself....by using the moon and the sun. 😕

Originally posted by Alfheim
What flaws?

...well it could be argued he is doing it for himself....by using the moon and the sun. 😕

Flaws like the Moon is not in a perfect orbit, meteors bombarding the Earth, the Sun expanding and destroying the solar system. While I know these are not “flaws” in real life but if they were built and designed by a supreme being creating something that doesn’t work perfectly and would destroy your creation would be considered a flaw.

As for him doing it himself the question would be why? In the Bible they talk about how the world will end and what God will do but they don’t say anything like the sun expanding and destroying the Earth and if so why would he make the Sun do this if he know that he will come down himself for the end of days?

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Flaws like the Moon is not in a perfect orbit, meteors bombarding the Earth, the Sun expanding and destroying the solar system. While I know these are not “flaws” in real life but if they were built and designed by a supreme being creating something that doesn’t work perfectly and would destroy your creation would be considered a flaw.

Yes and this is what im saying. The reason why the creator made it like that is because everything is supposed to come to an end at some point. Thats the reason why the sun expands for example.

This is the thing your not looking with a broad enough perspective. You're seeing it from the point of view of Creation = good, Destruction = bad. Destruction is a neccesary part of life.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS

As for him doing it himself the question would be why? In the Bible they talk about how the world will end and what God will do but they don’t say anything like the sun expanding and destroying the Earth and if so why would he make the Sun do this if he know that he will come down himself for the end of days?

You know the Bible is supposed to be metaphorical?

Re: God placing the universe

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
I got thinking about this the other day when watching a science show on the Moon, and a comment posted from JIA. When God created the universe and "perfectly placed" the Moon, Sun and all the other planets why are they not perfect? The Moon's orbit is slowly moving away from the Earth at a rare of about 3.8 centimeters per year which effect much of the life on Earth and will eventually moved pass the Earth pull and leave, this doesn't sound "perfect" to me. Why would God create all of these "flaws" if he had the divine power to place them? 😮

Simple - He didn't create anything. He doesn't exist.

what moon are we talking about? There are over 100 moons in our solar system........which one was mentioned in the bible?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yes and this is what im saying. The reason why the creator made it like that is because everything is supposed to come to an end at some point. Thats the reason why the sun expands for example.

This is the thing your not looking with a broad enough perspective. You're seeing it from the point of view of Creation = good, Destruction = bad. Destruction is a neccesary part of life.

You know the Bible is [B]supposed to be metaphorical? [/B]

You are missing the point. Why would God create all these different things that would destroy Earth and not just one? Why would he need to make the Sun destroy the solar system after the meteor already destroyed it or the Moon left orbit?

Some believe the Bible to be metaphorical and others do not, this is more directed at the ones that believe in the Bible.

Originally posted by Boris
Simple - He didn't create anything. He doesn't exist.
I’m not referring to people that don’t believe in the God but those that do.
Originally posted by Evil Dead
what moon are we talking about? There are over 100 moons in our solar system........which one was mentioned in the bible?
The one I mentioned in my post, Earth’s moon and I said nothing about this being in the Bible but that one it is not and that if God placed the Moon why is it leaving orbit?

this is rubbish about the sun, it will take several thousands to tens of thousands of years for the sun to expand enough....we will simply leave planet earth to other systems for sure, if it took us a few hundred years to invent computing to advanced computing all the way up to Spaceships that can travel to the moon then you would have to be rather odd to think in a few thousand years we wont be capable of sustaining our space systems, well just leave this system, find another one..if there is some supreme being, well hell be sitting in heaven twiddling his thumbs saying.."bugger"

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
You are missing the point. Why would God create all these different things that would destroy Earth and not just one? Why would he need to make the Sun destroy the solar system after the meteor already destroyed it or the Moon left orbit?

Ok so what your saying is that meteors destroying the earth or and the moon leaving orbit which results in the destruction of the earth and then the sun destroying the solar system seems like a flaw?

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS

Some believe the Bible to be metaphorical and others do not, this is more directed at the ones that believe in the Bible.

Anyone with an open mind can see that it was originally meant to be metaphorical 😐

Originally posted by Burning thought
this is rubbish about the sun, it will take several thousands to tens of thousands of years for the sun to expand enough....we will simply leave planet earth to other systems for sure, if it took us a few hundred years to invent computing to advanced computing all the way up to Spaceships that can travel to the moon then you would have to be rather odd to think in a few thousand years we wont be capable of sustaining our space systems, well just leave this system, find another one..if there is some supreme being, well hell be sitting in heaven twiddling his thumbs saying.."bugger"
Yes I do know that, and it will take much longer for that for the Sun to destroy our solar system by expanding but less time for a solar flare to, but if you follow the Bible and believe God created the Earth then why would you leave his creation?
Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok so what your saying is that meteors destroying the earth or and the moon leaving orbit which results in the destruction of the earth and then the sun destroying the solar system seems like a flaw?

Anyone with an open mind can see that it was originally meant to be metaphorical 😐

Yes, if there was a divine creator of everything why would he make a star that he knows will destroy his divine creation? If you were to build you own car why would you make it so that it will kill you?

As for the Bible there are many people that believe it to be literal or close to it, some like JIA take it for word for word and my question that I posted is more for this type of mentality. I don’t believe in God or anything supernatural.