why did god create ANYTHING outside his own existance{universe, heaven, hell}at ALL?

Why not?

Originally posted by omygoddess
God is an artist, and since everything is created in God's image, we are also creators and artists. You do not really need a reason to paint a picture of the way the moon looks reflecting off of the sea.

Then, your creation exists, and it takes on a life of its own. As a matter of fact, creation is still happening, it never stopped. The expanding universe is infinite and the origin of it all is still a part of it all. We are it. Rocks are it. Planets, animals, mountains, air, even Hummers are all it.

God created everything in order to display His power and His attributes.

Therefore the purpose of creation is to bring glory to God.

Thats not to say that God needs creation. God is a completely self sufficient God who does not need anything outside of Himself. The work of creation is simply the act of God's almighty will.

Originally posted by Gannon
God created everything in order to display His power and His attributes.

Therefore the purpose of creation is to bring glory to God.

Thats not to say that God needs creation. God is a completely self sufficient God who does not need anything outside of Himself. The work of creation is simply the act of God's almighty will.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
this is i think a very serious question. why would ANY1 create anything. it cannot be without some sort of inclination. or reason. nothing is done without either DESIRE or NECESSITY. since the omnipotent god has NEITHER desire nor necessity{as he is complete in himself and neither WANTS, nor NEEDS anything outside his ownself. otherwise hed stop being omnipotent} why would he create ANYTHING other than himself. why would indeed he me MOTIVATED to do anything at ALL???? and for those who believe that the world is part of god, we can atleast agree that our CONCIOUSNESS as it is is not completely the SAME as god so the argument still remains.

what motivated him to do so?

Thats like asking the man who owns the nearest shop what made Gordon Brown choose to wear a Purple Tie...

^how so?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
this is i think a very serious question. why would ANY1 create anything. it cannot be without some sort of inclination. or reason. nothing is done without either DESIRE or NECESSITY. since the omnipotent god has NEITHER desire nor necessity{as he is complete in himself and neither WANTS, nor NEEDS anything outside his ownself. otherwise hed stop being omnipotent} why would he create ANYTHING other than himself. why would indeed he me MOTIVATED to do anything at ALL???? and for those who believe that the world is part of god, we can atleast agree that our CONCIOUSNESS as it is is not completely the SAME as god so the argument still remains.

what motivated him to do so?

^but our conciousnesses are discreet entities in themselves. they are not completely part of god.

Gotta love people who aren't inhibited by the need to qualify their opinions with reason or evidence...you get such poetic (though indefensible) visions of God and creation. The recent "God is an artist" pastiche is a perfect example. Why fight that sort of thing? They aren't organized in a religious sect, so they'll never reach the critical mass that mainstream religion does (which is the point where religious beliefs can do societal damage), so it's just fun to listen to...and honestly just as reasonable as most religious positions.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Gotta love people who aren't inhibited by the need to qualify their opinions with reason or evidence...you get such poetic (though indefensible) visions of God and creation. The recent "God is an artist" pastiche is a perfect example. Why fight that sort of thing? They aren't organized in a religious sect, so they'll never reach the critical mass that mainstream religion does (which is the point where religious beliefs can do societal damage), so it's just fun to listen to...and honestly just as reasonable as most religious positions.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^but our conciousnesses are discreet entities in themselves. they are not completely part of god.

yes but fractional still leaves room for parts which ARENT god or part of him.

How so? Oh, and I wouldn't call god a him.

fractional =/= completely

I have my own ideas of what God is...and you can't take it away from me 😠

Originally posted by leonheartmm
fractional =/= completely

Originally posted by LatinoStallion
I think only an imcomplete, imperfect, and lonely being would be motivated to create something other than itself.

If something is perfect and complete, it will not need or want another apart from itself, since it already embodies everything.

I could be wrong, but that's how I see it.

Now, others may say the motivation of this being to create another is love...the desire to care for something other than itself. This may be a very Christian, Jewish, or Muslim way of thinking.

However, the concept of Hell throws that idea off. If Love was truly the motivator of creation, then why would this being aim to punish something it created ? Why would it want its creation to suffer simply for disobeying it if love was the motive ?

You're answering your own question. You ask a question where we are to assume that love is the motivation of creation and then you say why would a God aim to punish us. I thought we originally established that the purpose behind creation was for God to express love towards us, not punishment. God does not want those who do wrong to go to hell, then as you have already said, and as I believe, God created us to express his love towards something.

to WANT to love is unlike a perfect entity. perfection does not REQUIRE addition or editing.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
this is i think a very serious question. why would ANY1 create anything. it cannot be without some sort of inclination. or reason. nothing is done without either DESIRE or NECESSITY. since the omnipotent god has NEITHER desire nor necessity{as he is complete in himself and neither WANTS, nor NEEDS anything outside his ownself. otherwise hed stop being omnipotent} why would he create ANYTHING other than himself. why would indeed he me MOTIVATED to do anything at ALL???? and for those who believe that the world is part of god, we can atleast agree that our CONCIOUSNESS as it is is not completely the SAME as god so the argument still remains.

what motivated him to do so?

Yeah. Boredom.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
this is i think a very serious question. why would ANY1 create anything. it cannot be without some sort of inclination. or reason. nothing is done without either DESIRE or NECESSITY. since the omnipotent god has NEITHER desire nor necessity{as he is complete in himself and neither WANTS, nor NEEDS anything outside his ownself. otherwise hed stop being omnipotent} why would he create ANYTHING other than himself. why would indeed he me MOTIVATED to do anything at ALL???? and for those who believe that the world is part of god, we can atleast agree that our CONCIOUSNESS as it is is not completely the SAME as god so the argument still remains.

what motivated him to do so?

Seriously, have you ever asked him?

i dont know where he lives. plus ive heard that hes high headed and doesnt often come when called for.