1. Maul gives Dooku a great fight and possibly wins (probably not, though). Anakin beats Sidious, though, so Dooku/Anakin win.
2. Likely Sidious and Maul - Maul can resist lightning and probably other attacks, too - I'm guessing he could hold off Skywalker for a short while at least, and Sidious is by far the strongest in this category - he would likely own either opponent while Maul holds off the others.
3. Close, but likely Dooku and Vader - Vader could give Sidious a great fight, and would likely last longer against Sidious than Maul would against Dooku, unless Vader gets cocky. If Sidious fights Dooku and Anakin fights Maul, though, Sidious/Maul may win, Maul could hold off Anakin for a little while and Sidious is Dooku's master, he knows Dooku well and Dooku is terrified of him, and would probably fight sloppy due to his great fear. So I guess it could go either way here.
Originally posted by kiddo44
sorry, but anybody that thinks Maul could possibly beat Dooku is either a Maul fanboy, DS, or a complete idiot.
I'd be careful about slinging the idiot moniker around, Kiddo, 'cause I can find about half a dozen examples of your own stupidity in this thread.
Or I could also say any guy who thinks Dooku is close to Yoda is a Dooku fanboy or a complete idiot.
Originally posted by kiddo44
wtf
And btw, Dooku is somewhat close to Yoda, but not that close. Sorry if any of this has been said already, but come on, all those objects that Dooku tossed at Yoda Yoda tossed away casually. And Yoda tossed the ceiling away easily, and caught the lightning like it was nothing. It is clear that Yoda is quite a bit above Dooku with the Force, as is Sidious, those 2 are a good league, if not more, above any other movie character with the Force.
The saber duel, however, was a bit closer. However, you have to realise that Yoda was trying not to kill Dooku but to capture him, and he still had Dooku running like a chicken after one minute. Plus Gillard says Dooku is a level 8 swordsman and Yoda's a level 9, so somewhat close but not nearly even.
Later, on Vjun, when Dooku is quite a bit stronger than he normally is, since Vjun is alive with the dark side, Yoda is still at least on par with him. True, Dooku runs not because Yoda was about to kill him but because Anakin and Kenobi arrived, but the fact that he even planned to destroy his citadel should he lose shows that he was unconfident that he could beat Yoda even when engulfed in the dark side.
So yes, they are somewhat close, but not extremely close.
Originally posted by Gideonok go ahead, and i assure you that if you think Darth Maul could even have a chance of beating Dooku, you know nothing about Star Wars, and you are an idiot.
[B]I'd be careful about slinging the idiot moniker around, Kiddo, 'cause I can find about half a dozen examples of your own stupidity in this thread.
Or I could also say any guy who thinks Dooku is close to Yoda is a Dooku fanboy or a complete idiot.Uh no, they actually fought twice, and is very easy to prove. Unlike Maul and Dooku, where Dooku was shown to be at completly different level than Maul. I think there dealing with Kenobi shows that, or is that to hard for you to get?
Originally posted by kiddo44
ok go ahead, and i assure you that if you think Darth Maul could even have a chance of beating Dooku, you know nothing about Star Wars, and you are an idiot.Uh no, they actually fought twice, and is very easy to prove. Unlike Maul and Dooku, where Dooku was shown to be at completly different level than Maul. I think there dealing with Kenobi shows that, or is that to hard for you to get?
Originally posted by darthsith19
If you want to play that way, then look at their performences against Anakin/Vader. Anakin owned Dooku in ROTS in around 30 seconds. Maul gave ANH Vader a hell of a fight and damn near beat him.
Maul clone and that was suited Vader, who was not as good as ROTS Vader in sabers, and for some reason he did not use the force on him. Its still hard for me to accept that as canon.
ok go ahead,
Sure thing. I'll get right on it, because it'll be a collection of quotes.
and i assure you that if you think Darth Maul could even have a chance of beating Dooku, you know nothing about Star Wars, and you are an idiot.
Yes, because your opinion means so much. Allow me to clarify: without proof or evidence of some variety, your opinion [as well as mine and anyone else's] means shit. You haven't supported this little delusion of yours, ergo, your opinion translates to shit.
Uh no, they actually fought twice, and is very easy to prove.
Easy to prove? Outstanding! Then get right on it. You've tried to debunk my argument [and you've failed miserably] and then you simply just continue to state your pathetic opinion without any regard for what has already been proven.
Unlike Maul and Dooku, where Dooku was shown to be at completly different level than Maul.
No one denies Dooku's superior aptitude with the Force, but alas, he's not a vastly superior swordsman by any means.
I think there dealing with Kenobi shows that, or is that to hard for you to get?
Different circumstances. The first time they dueled, Dooku engaged Kenobi solo and defeated him. In TPM, a preinjured Maul took on Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan simultaneously, and Obi-Wan only briefly gained the upper hand due to his brush with the dark side. The second time, he was forced to disable Obi-Wan with the Force because Obi-Wan's defenses were that good.
Thanks for proving to me that you are, as stated before, a Dooku fanboy.
Originally posted by darthsith19
a saber duel between Dooku and ROTS Kenobi would have lasted forever.
Originally posted by kiddo44
[B]Longer yes, but Dooku was a great swordsman, better than Kenobi,[/b[
and your force powers play into how good you are in sabers.
Saying it would last longer is not saying much considering how fast Dooku got rid of Kenobi,
but in a fight like that with Dooku who used form II which is the best form for one on one dueling and is much stronger with the force it would not las as long as you think.
Originally posted by GideonPreinjured? what a joke. Anyway that was padawan Kenobi 10 years before AOTC, so do you think a padawan Kenobi w/ the darkside could have gained the upper hand on Count Dooku? you probably do, but your point means nothing.Different circumstances. The first time they dueled, Dooku engaged Kenobi solo and defeated him. In TPM, a preinjured Maul took on Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan simultaneously, and Obi-Wan only briefly gained the upper hand due to his brush with the dark side.
You haven't proved anything just said that Yoda was conflicted and Maul was tired. 🙄 You can not prove Yoda is leagues above Dooku which you claim, which is just stupid, is he better, yes, but not by much, now if you want to use the time the fought in the book or the movies fine, it doesn't matter it shows they are very close overall.
Could Yoda have tossed ROTS Kenobi aside like he was a clone, while kicking Anakin into a wall?, who knows.
To Deny they are very close just shows that you are fanboy.
Originally posted by kiddo44
Could Yoda have tossed ROTS Kenobi aside like he was a clone, while kicking Anakin into a wall?, who knows.
To Deny they are very close just shows that you are fanboy.
Originally posted by darthsith19
And I love how you neglected all my proof on the Yoda vs. Dooku matter completely. 🙄
Precisely.
I've made my point and I'm not inclined to reiterate it needlessly to fantards [a special category I made just for you, Kiddo, a portmanteau of 'fanboy' and 'retard', which accurately describe you].