Originally posted by llagrok
It's an example of how they know jack shit about characters.
Once again, different hulk than you've ever seen.
I don't get the double standard. It's the same thing that people do with Wolverine. It's called an UPGRADE.
No one is bitching that Iceman went from Snowman to not needing a body.
No one cared about the fact that Magneto could seem to originally only control metal to having complete control over the entire electro magnetic sphere.
These things happen.
Originally posted by Blight
Once again, different hulk than you've ever seen.I don't get the double standard. It's the same thing that people do with Wolverine. It's called an UPGRADE.
No one is bitching that Iceman went from Snowman to not needing a body.
No one cared about the fact that Magneto could seem to originally only control metal to having complete control over the entire electro magnetic sphere.
These things happen.
Except that Emma is actually immune to such attacks completely in her diamond form. Even her emotions are dulled.
So there's really no good explanation for what happened. Unless Hulk became a very high level telepath.
Originally posted by Blight
Once again, different hulk than you've ever seen.I don't get the double standard. It's the same thing that people do with Wolverine. It's called an UPGRADE.
No one is bitching that Iceman went from Snowman to not needing a body.
No one cared about the fact that Magneto could seem to originally only control metal to having complete control over the entire electro magnetic sphere.
These things happen.
Yeah, that's it dur
Hulk's powers evolved into being able to bypass telepathic immunity with his rage!
Originally posted by llagrokalright ,hulks been beaten by some of the weakest people in marvel and im not bitchin...live with it
It's an example of how they know jack shit about characters.
Originally posted by llagrokMeh, the writer is relatively new to comic writing I think, and has never written the X-Men nor Hulk. From an interview I read he prefers the brawlers like Colossus, Wolverine, X-23 et al so they'll probably end up looking okay, while all the versatile others will act like idiots.
It's an example of how they know jack shit about characters.
Originally posted by BlightIceman's powers grew over 20 years, with subtle hints being dropped over those 20 years that there was more to his power than he used and that he was only limited by his own immaturity. Most people do ***** about Iceman's powers growing. Generally whenever a mutant character grows more powerful people ***** with something like "I'm sick of the mutants getting so powerful." even when it occurs over 20 years.
No one is bitching that Iceman went from Snowman to not needing a body.
Originally posted by strengthkillsThat's some excellent point missing you have there.
how do you bypass immunity...seems like you should save that smiley for yourself
Bobby's powers are obviously wasted on him, at least in my opinion. We've seen many examples of how "crappy" he is at using them, at least the 616 version of Iceman. Emma, Mikhail and AU Icemen, all far better with their powers.
The 616 Iceman is without doubt the one who has shown the most growth and uses the least of his potential. So he's not the kind of person who suddenly becomes über, like Hulk 🙂
Anyways, back on topic. All of the x-men win, Iceman can solo him, new x-men loses/lost.
Originally posted by Blight
Nevermind. I see what you're getting at.But Proffesor X should not have gotten into hulks mind that easy in general.
You took my quote far out of context.
Well it is a Xaviar who has just gotten his power back and don't use the delicate touch he once did he just hammers through.
But the most shitty part IMO is still emma being affected by Xaviars telepathy when in her Diamond form wtf...
Originally posted by xmarksthespotThat's some excellent point missing you have there
Meh, the writer is relatively new to comic writing I think, and has never written the X-Men nor Hulk. From an interview I read he prefers the brawlers like Colossus, Wolverine, X-23 et al so they'll probably end up looking okay, while all the versatile others will act like idiots.
Iceman's powers grew over 20 years, with subtle hints being dropped over those 20 years that there was more to his power than he used and that he was only limited by his own immaturity. Most people do ***** about Iceman's powers growing. Generally whenever a mutant character grows more powerful people ***** with something like "I'm sick of the mutants getting so powerful." even when it occurs over 20 years.
That's some excellent point missing you have there.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Meh, the writer is relatively new to comic writing I think, and has never written the X-Men nor Hulk. From an interview I read he prefers the brawlers like Colossus, Wolverine, X-23 et al so they'll probably end up looking okay, while all the versatile others will act like idiots.
Iceman's powers grew over 20 years, with subtle hints being dropped over those 20 years that there was more to his power than he used and that he was only limited by his own immaturity. Most people do ***** about Iceman's powers growing. Generally whenever a mutant character grows more powerful people ***** with something like "I'm sick of the mutants getting so powerful." even when it occurs over 20 years.
That's some excellent point missing you have there.
My issue, though, is this. And this isn't directed ONLY at you, I promise 😄
Hulk has been fluctuating in power since he began. He was the Grey Hulk for about 2 issues and had an entirely different personality from the one two issues later when he turned green.
For quite a while it seemed like the Hulk could fly as well, I don't know if that's been retconned but maybe you can shed some light onto that.
Then you see his Grey Hulk come back a bit weaker.
Then you have the Professor.
Then you have the Mindless Hulk
Then you have the Banner Controlled hulk.
Then you have the Rick Jones Controlled Hulk.
Then you have this Guilt Hulk going around in his head that's supposed to represent something in his head.
Then you have Devil Hulk, and God knows what he can do (and apparently no one else cares because I'll admit it's kindof a stupid idea).
Then you have Green Scar... Who has been defying anything anyone says here on the board and is pissing off a lot of people. Why? Same reason I guess people ***** about Iceman.
But no one can pretend Hulk hasn't fluctuated CONSTANTLY throughout his career. In fact, he's probably been fluctuating longer than Iceman or Magneto and at much greater rates. They not only dropped hints about Hulk being more powerful, they blatantly spell it out by announcing that he is "The Strongest One there Is" (And really, it's not just the Hulk that says that... the Narrator says it, and others in the Marvel Universe say it. I'm not saying it makes him stronger than abstract, but there does seem to be a limitless tap of strength he has so far).
Sorry...
Originally posted by UtrigitaYeah, that really doesn't make sense 🙂
Well it is a Xaviar who has just gotten his power back and don't use the delicate touch he once did he just hammers through.But the most shitty part IMO is still emma being affected by Xaviars telepathy when in her Diamond form wtf...
I'll just say that hulk is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO strong that it even effects her 😄 😄 😄
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Meh, the writer is relatively new to comic writing I think, and has never written the X-Men nor Hulk. From an interview I read he prefers the brawlers like Colossus, Wolverine, X-23 et al so they'll probably end up looking okay, while all the versatile others will act like idiots.
Iceman's powers grew over 20 years, with subtle hints being dropped over those 20 years that there was more to his power than he used and that he was only limited by his own immaturity. Most people do ***** about Iceman's powers growing. Generally whenever a mutant character grows more powerful people ***** with something like "I'm sick of the mutants getting so powerful." even when it occurs over 20 years.
That's some excellent point missing you have there.
He prefers the brawlers? Well, that expalins the scene in preview with that brawling stuff performed by Emma...he probably thought that it will look cool.
At least we got another on-panel support for Emma's Class 50 force of hits...which still does jack to Hulk.
And the thing with diamond form in WWH-X-Men 1 was just a misinterpretation? What if, at least it wasn't me who started it, not my post in Emma respect thread...where that wasn't even mentioned.