Again, no argument just anther mess of craptastic insults and half thought out text.
1. Do tell me how a foreign saber and style are AUTOMATICALLY IRRELEVANT..
Been established and I'm getting tired of repeating myself, by the neophyte Kyle Katarn taking on Barxiss and Maw who both had either unique or rare styles, yet he beat them. Once again, if he can do it a Jedi Master in the likes of Yoda can as well.
2. Yoda is faster than Kun, but is Yoda faster than Kun and Dooku?
Kun can't keep up with him and Dooku on a world where his powers are at his apex is still can't keep up with him and is drenched in sweat while even attempting to do so.
3. Easy victory? Lol you really are in denial.
Over kun, in sabers yes it is an easy victory.
And the reading comprehension extraordinaire continues his ridiculous crap. Please, since you're so adept at reading comprehension(sarcasm in case it went straight over your head), tell me where I regarded Ulic as even near Yoda.. Please, go ahead. No really, go ahead.
You didn't, and I never claimed you did...
And I lack the comprehension skills:
I said:
Ulic Qel Droma who doesn't hold a candle to Yoda or Dooku.
You said:
Yet again, diminishing a character by stating that the other character doesn't hold a candle to x, y,z . Try backing it up for once smartass, not just state your opinion.
I said:
Well lets see, you yourself don't seem to hold the opinion that Kun is even better then Yoda yet Ulic whom is as you admitted weaker then Kun and a worse duelist then Kun is somehow even near Yoda, its pretty damn obvious, Darth Sidious the strongest the Sith have ever produced couldn't beat Yoda in a saber duel what makes you seem to think Ulic could even come close?
What my response should have been is (Using DS logic) its obviously apparent Ulic doesn't hold a candle to Yoda cause Yoda's track record speaks for itself.
Judging by the mess you threw into this text box, I highly doubt you know what logical deduction is.
I could call you out on the fallacy there but its pointless as you can't even coherently debate let alone understand logic. But as usual instead of actually coming up with a counter response you will up space with an insult.
That alone makes her a master swordsman? And tell me, was this before or after Anakin became exponentially powerful?
No, but that along with her other dueling feats: beating Kit Fisto who was noted as one of the finest duelists in the order and a complete master of Shii Cho, she's owned Glaive a huge muscular being, she's beaten numerous other Jedi Knights, she managed to scar Anakin 6 months prior to his obliteration of Count Dooku in ROTS, and even Darth Sidious noted her skills with a lightsaber:
"The child's skill with a lightsaber is most impressive . You have found a promising disciple, my apprentice. She shall serve us well."
LEts see. Did their sabers clash more than a few times? Could she get in a killing blow? It would take Ulic without the force for her even to come close to him in saber combat. Oh no, he was running, that makes him weak!($*($*!
So he's good at running a defense, Yoda pushed Sidious back and couldn't land a killing blow, Anakin the clear superior to Obi Wan couldn't land a killing blow at any point. Your point? I'm sorry taught guy but running away and and parrying =/= speak super highly for Ulic as you want it to, the feat my be on some level impressive but does that rank him next to Dooku? No, so why even mention it?
1. Yoda is better than Dooku, that has been established. What hasn't been established is Yoda being miles ahead of Dooku.
Till you refute this:
No, I've established that Yoda is the clear better over a Dooku whose powers are at their apex on a world steeped with the dark side, now compare the performance Dooku put out (the one where he's sweating like a mad man, half dehydrated, being pushed back and needing to throw people at Yoda to distract him and use missiles to retreat) on the before said world.
To that of a Dooku who DOESN'T have the before mentioned advantages (I'm assuming this takes place on a force neutral flat surface) the logical conclusion...He gets shitted on, Yoda IS Dooku's superior BY FAR.
Your just making baseless claims, again. Because definitively beating someone who has their power being amped to its apex and has numerous ploys does mean your miles ahead of that person since he(Dooku) can't in this situation reenact his only time where he was even close to Yoda in the dueling department and was still clearly beaten, while Yoda didn't even seemingly break a sweat.
2. See #1, since there's nothing suggesting Yoda is MILES ahead of Kun, or even that far ahead of him, and this is just saber skills. Your opinion=/=fact, and don't tell me you logically deduced this, because it's illogical fanboyism without proof.
Again your making baseless claims and this shit is getting old, fast. I tire of these circle arguments (you can't advance anything because you don't even have an argument thats valid to begin with) so I'm gonna end this shit now:
Exar Kun, the Masterswords Man was put on his ass by Vodo and would have cut off Exar Kuns hand had he been using a real saber, whose only advantage over him as the narration described was "experience". He then gets better enough to beat the established 'average' duelist.
I honestly can't see how you come to the idiotic conclusion that *that * can compete with Yoda:
Speed:
Yoda is noted for his enhanced speed due to the force to the point that he can leave and blurred after image of his movements due to how fast he is (Clone Wars vol.5 Best of Blades, Jedi: Yoda)
Kun is never noted for his speed in the comics and the most that was ever show by the comics was speed lines and given the fact that he couldn't even out run the Massasi Warriors chasing him, I doubt his speed is anything special.
Also Yoda movements are acrobatic and unpredictable to the point that even masters of the lightsaber forms I - IV (Dooku) can barley keep up and his speed was enough to overwhelm and disarm the most powerful Sith Lord to ever lived, the same Sith Lord who could outline Mauls body with his saber before he could even blink (Journal of Darth Maul )
He moved faster then 3 Jedi Masters attacking him at once, one of them included Depa Billup a master of Vaapad and several other forms.
He's clearly far faster then Exar Kun
Mark one for Yoda.
Strength:
Yoda also enhances his Physical power with the force as can be seen in Clone Wars Adventures vol. 3 when he lifts a huge gun in an even bigger book on his back and moves with it a comparison in size can be seen here:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:A_Stranger_in_Town.JPG
Aside from this to tenetically lift two C-9979 landing craft which each weigh individually: 1800 metric tons or 3,600,000 lbs.
While Kun on the other hand, his heights degree of power shown in the comics is lifting a being up with one hand and breaking a force powered stick. Um lets see how in the hell does that compare to Yoda?
Thats two for Yoda.
Skill:
Yoda's skill lies in his complete and utter mastery of Ataru to the highest degree to the point that people who know the form inside out (Dooku) can't even compete with Yoda's version.
His skill has lead him to be called the one true master of lightsaber dueling in the Jedi Order, he skill allowed him to disarm Sidious,the greatest and most powerful Sith Lord ever, who moved so fast he was called a 'shadow ' in the ROTS novelization, whom killed Kit Fisto, Agen Kolar and Sasee Tinn in about 3 seconds all of whom are noted as some of the finest duelist in the Jedi Order.
He was labeled as Mace Windu's superior and was able to toy with Dooku who was already established as:
"One of the greatest Jedi Masters in the orders 25k year history, and an even greater Sith Lord"
and
who was called a "consummate duelist " who was in "superb physical condition " for being 80. A man who completely mastered Makashi and forms I - IV and beat Sora Bluq who is described as:
"...one of the greatest lightsaber instructors the Jedi order had ever known, perfecting the various forms of combat techniques, both classical and experimental. He even helped Mace Windu perfect the art of vaapad, the seventh form of lightsaber combat so intense and dangerous, that to practice it was to tread perilously close to the dark side."
AND Tholme at the same time, someone who could beat Grevious without going all out (CW Grevious that is) the same Grevious who WTFpwned 5 Jedi at the same time (a party including three Jedi Masters and two Knights) who can compete with the likes of Mace Windu and Yoda.
He was also described by the ROTS novelization as:
"The most devastatingly powerful foe the darkness has ever known"
Where as Kun whom was called a Masterswrodsman as a padawan an level of saber mastery that you can't and haven't substantiated, he also has an the double bladed saber and a unique style to go along with that which is rendered largely irrelevant to someone on the level of Yoda, as the neophyte Kyle Katarn could overcome rare and unique styles. He's stalemated Ulic, beat Vodo, Crado and Sylvar, all of whom are not in Yoda's league and nothing like Yoda what so ever, however any of Yoda's upper tier opponents would be a match and likely beat Kun in saber dueling, Sidious in every aspect.
Three for Yoda.
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