Exar Kun & Count Dooku vs. Yoda - Lightsaber Duel

Look on ladies and gentlemen, the monkey has been bested in everyway it reverts back to its most bases behavior: posting dumbass pictures.

Good one styles.. I forgot, the moronic debaters on this forum play "I know you are but what am I"... Yet again, since you don't have an argument, nor any debating skills whatsoever...

Translation: I don't have an argument, some I'm going to go off in more irrelevant misdirection, because well thats all I'm good for, your better then me in every way and I concede the argument I didn't have to begin with.

Chompin on those paint chips and downing that liquor must be affecting your vision, so cause I like you so very much I'll post the argument one more time and I'll make it large enough for even a retarded shit stain like you can see:

[QUOTE]he'd do a tactic similar to what Dooku did in the opening stages of the duel with Anakin and Obi Wan:

Where as all Dooku need do was to step from one side to anther - and occasionally flip over a head here and there--so that he could fight them in turn rather than both at the same time.

Divide and conquer a simple tactic, that would work very effectively in this case because Exar Kun and Dooku don't know shit about each other and can't fight as a team like Obi Wan and ANakin did in the latter stages of the duel, other then that Exar Kun wields a completely forgien weapon and a foreign style. to Dooku so he couldn't analyze the advantages and disadvantages of a combo attack.

They were not prepared to fight against a single force user certainly not one of Dooku's power he on the other hand had always fought alone. It was laughably easy to keep the Jedi tripping and stumbling and getting in each others way.

Thats what I see happening to Kun and Dooku, Dooku as the narration stated ALWAYS fought alone and thus probably knows zlich about a team battle, and Kun has apparently never been in a team battle in his life. Combine that with the fact that both of them have HUGE ass ego's I HIGHLY doubt they could put that aside and work together as a team, and Yoda is Dooku's personal enemy who gets very under his skin, how would he feel about this relative stranger barging him aside to try and kill his former Master and arch nemesis? They'd be more likely to fight each other rather then Yoda.

Yoda doesn't have to be miles and miles ahead of them both to win, he just has to use basic tactics to separate and defeat them individually .[/ QUOTE]

Are you done tool? Let me as you a more important question since you seem to be addressing the public. Who really gives a shit? You have not offered a single shred of evidence that would make Yoda the victor against these two. Simply saying "omg divide and conquer", doesn't make it so. Not to mention Dooku and Kun's style won't get in the way of each other. But sure, Yoda has force speed and "Divide and conquer" techniques, so he's going to win. Stop wasting bandwidth with this shit you call an argument..

Divide and Conquer? When you are dealing with duelists like Dooku and Kun, that strategy would probably turn out to be something more like "Divide and get crushed."

Divide and conquer is a strategy that only works when your opponent is scared. Somehow I can't imagine Exar Kun saying to himself, "Oh! Oh! Goodness gracious me! I've been separated from my Lord Tyrannus! What am I ever going to do?"

Besides, Makashi's precision would probably allow it to strategically weave through Jar'Kai, so Dooku and Kun might make a good team anyway.

Originally posted by Quark_666
Divide and Conquer? When you are dealing with duelists like Dooku and Kun, that strategy would probably turn out to be something more like "Divide and get crushed."

Divide and conquer is a strategy that only works when your opponent is scared. Somehow I can't imagine Exar Kun saying to himself, "Oh! Oh! Goodness gracious me! I've been separated from my Lord Tyrannus! What am I ever going to do?"

Besides, Makashi's precision would probably allow it to strategically weave through Jar'Kai, so Dooku and Kun might make a good team anyway.

Originally posted by Quark_666
Divide and Conquer? When you are dealing with duelists like Dooku and Kun, that strategy would probably turn out to be something more like "Divide and get crushed."

Divide and conquer is a strategy that only works when your opponent is scared. Somehow I can't imagine Exar Kun saying to himself, "Oh! Oh! Goodness gracious me! I've been separated from my Lord Tyrannus! What am I ever going to do?"

Besides, Makashi's precision would probably allow it to strategically weave through Jar'Kai, so Dooku and Kun might make a good team anyway.

That's the point. You're going to confuse Styles though.

Are you talking to me? Cause I'm agreeing with you.

Yea Im talking to you and agreeing with you saying Styles is going to get confused.

Divide and conquer is a strategy that only works when your opponent is scared.

Since when? Yoda's firm superiority in speed (I would assume he's superior to Exar Kun in that department based on what's been said in this thread, and I know that he's superior to Dooku by a great deal when it comes to speed based on the movies) as well as Exar Kun and Dooku's obvious lack of cohesion would likely make the tactic pretty easy to pull off. So I don't see where you're getting the idea that it's absolutely necessary that Exar and Dooku be afraid for the tactic to work.

Originally posted by nmensfinest
Since when? Yoda's firm superiority in speed (I would assume he's superior to Exar Kun in that department based on what's been said in this thread, and I know that he's superior to Dooku by a great deal when it comes to speed based on the movies) as well as Exar Kun and Dooku's obvious lack of cohesion would likely make the tactic pretty easy to pull off. So I don't see where you're getting the idea that it's absolutely necessary that Exar and Dooku be afraid for the tactic to work.

You're assuming the two are going to have a lack of cohesion. Don't know where you got that from. I can just as easily say that their styles allow them to gang up on Yoda from both sides and Yoda, while fast, is not fast enough to dodge the blades of Dooku and Kun, who are in his league.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
You're assuming the two are going to have a lack of cohesion. Don't know where you got that from.

It’s common sense. Two fighters who have never fought together in their life would in no way be able to suddenly fight well together on the spot, as neither would know jack about how the other fights, and they’d both simply lack any experience fighting together. Come on Sexy, it’s a simple concept, use your head. I also find it extremely strange to believe that both Dooku and Exar would be able to engage Yoda at the same time with Exar’s big ass double-bladed lightsaber in the way.

I can just as easily say that their styles allow them to gang up on Yoda from both sides

You could say that, but it’d be a pretty ridiculous statement. As if Yoda’s just gonna stand still and let them gang up on him from either side.... More like he uses his superior speed and his opponents’ lack of cohesion to his advantage, and just sticks to dueling one opponent at a time.

and Yoda, while fast, is not fast enough to dodge the blades of Dooku and Kun, who are in his league.

I don’t know about Yoda’s speed in comparison to Kun’s (mainly because I don't know jack about the fellow), but in comparison to Dooku? Yoda is in a whole different league to Dooku. Just watch their duel in AotC; Yoda completely dictates the entire fight, and is constantly able to dodge and jump out of the way of Dooku’s saber strikes. Speedwise, Yoda's clearly far above Dooku, saying that they're in the same league in that respect is a ridiculous statement.

Originally posted by nmensfinest
It’s common sense. Two fighters who have never fought together in their life would in no way be able to suddenly fight well together on the spot, as neither would know jack about how the other fights, and they’d both simply lack any experience fighting together. Come on Sexy, it’s a simple concept, use your head. I also find it extremely strange to believe that both Dooku and Exar would be able to engage Yoda at the same time with Exar’s big ass double-bladed lightsaber in the way.

You could say that, but it’d be a pretty ridiculous statement. As if Yoda’s just gonna stand still and let them gang up on him from either side.... More like he uses his superior speed and his opponents’ lack of cohesion to his advantage, and just sticks to dueling one opponent at a time.

I don’t know about Yoda’s speed in comparison to Kun’s (mainly because I don't know jack about the fellow), but in comparison to Dooku? Yoda is in a whole different league to Dooku. Just watch their duel in AotC; Yoda completely dictates the entire fight, and is constantly able to dodge and jump out of the way of Dooku’s saber strikes. Speedwise, Yoda's clearly far above Dooku, saying that they're in the same league in that respect is a ridiculous statement. [/B]

Saying that they're in the same league doesn't mean Dooku is on par with him.. Just in the same league. Not to mention the fight in AOTC wasn't a victory for Yoda, yet he did parry all of Dooku's blows. Yoda is superior to Dooku but definitely not by miles.

Wait, are we talking about Kun using a double-lightsaber or using two lightsabers? Because I have to agree with mensfinest...I don't see Kun working with Dooku if he is using a double lightsaber.

On the other hand, I see them working together pretty well if Kun uses Jar'Kai (the form of two separate sabers). Double lightsabers might be fine against multiple opponents, but they aren't good at becoming one of the multiple opponents.

dooku and kun win

Double lightsabers might be fine against multiple opponents, but they aren't good at becoming one of the multiple opponents.

Agreed. Dooku would have to constantly watch out for not being sliced by Kun. This could gave yoda an advantage.

Originally posted by kamhal
Agreed. Dooku would have to constantly watch out for not being sliced by Kun. This could gave yoda an advantage.

And Yoda's speed and acrobatics could draw them closer together which could present a problem but in the end he will tire and go down.

You guys just don't get it. It's not a NORMAL double blade, the one Maul used. This blade is shorter than a human being because of its hilt, and it's intensities can be altered. Not to mention Kun wields it like a single blade so there is no difference.

You guys just don't get it. It's not a NORMAL double blade, the one Maul used. This blade is shorter than a human being because of its hilt

So? But it's still a big doublelightsaber, dangerous to dooku

and it's intensities can be altered.

So what?

Not to mention Kun wields it like a single blade so there is no difference.

There are much of a diference, because if kun wields it like a normal blade he will slash himself quite fast.

And i didn't say yoda wins this, just that this is far from being an overkill. It's quite close actually.

Originally posted by kamhal
So? But it's still a big doublelightsaber, dangerous to dooku

So what?

There are much of a diference, because if kun wields it like a normal blade he will slash himself quite fast.

And i didn't say yoda wins this, just that this is far from being an overkill. It's quite close actually. [/B]

I never said it would be an overkill, however Yoda doesn't walk out alive.

The point is it's actually the same size as a normal blade, so you can't say it will be a threat to anyone since the size varies.

So, are you saying that each of both blades was half the side from a normal one? ...

Uh that doesn't make any sense. Kun wielded it like a normal blade against Vodo, and wtfpwned him. He wielded it like a normal blade against Ood as well.

So what? Is Vodo anything special?

I never said it would be an overkill, however Yoda doesn't walk out alive.

Did i say the other way?

Originally posted by kamhal So, are you saying that each of both blades was half the side from a normal one? ...

So what? Is Vodo anything special?