An atheist speech.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I have excellent insulting skills, but I am not a six year old girl with a skinned knee.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I'm sure many like him, my point is he is pretty much detested at St. Andrews...well, go get a selection of the most intellegent people in the world. Dawkins is ranked No. 3 according to Prospect Magazine, but that was decided on peoples votes...

Bardock please only respond to things about the topic, ignore the rest.

Well, it's hard of course. How to decide that someone is the most intelligent. Still, I guess most scientists are actually not believers and scientists are generally the people we consider intelligent.

As for the responding. Why should I not respond to what is said to me?

Originally posted by Bardock42
That's what I meant. You did not understand what I wrote down. It is frustrating for people that usually understand what other people mean.

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you should follow Gav's advice.

You guess...majority of astrologers are Christian...and many Christians are scientists. Big Bang? Catholic Monk came up with it. Evolution? Darwin, Christian. Galileo? Catholic, Bacon, Catholic, and it goes on.

Einstein "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

As for not responding, your apparently intellegent, rise above it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
and it is amusing that you get so upset about such trivial crap.

you should follow Gav's advice.

Look, if you were in my position and realizing that people like you exist, you would understand, why it is so horrible.

Yes, you are allowed to vote...you...are...allowed...to...vote.

Do you see the fatality of it all?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, so Dawkins. What are your thoughts on him as a Christian?

He's extremely intellignet, relies on facts, and has a really convincing argument.

Depsite being a Christian, I'm not a mindless sheep. Since I was about 12 or 13 the possibility of no god(s) has always been in the back of my mind. "What if the athiests are right? The people who put the Bible together didn't know anything about dinosaurs or atoms or DNA." is something that haunts me in a very scary/nagging way.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Look, if you were in my position and realizing that people like you exist, you would understand, why it is so horrible.

Yes, you are allowed to vote...you...are...allowed...to...vote.

Do you see the fatality of it all?

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
You guess...majority of astrologers are Christian...and many Christians are scientists. Big Bang? Catholic Monk came up with it. Evolution? Darwin, Christian. Galileo? Catholic, Bacon, Catholic, and it goes on.

Einstein "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

As for not responding, your apparently intellegent, rise above it.

Astrology is not a science.

Wow, wow, Darwin was not Christian. Eistein also wasn't Christian and he did not believe in God. That are quotes either taking out of context or made up.

And well. As I replied to RJ. You should understand.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
He's extremely intellignet, relies on facts, and has a really convincing argument.

Depsite being a Christian, I'm not a mindless sheep. Since I was about 12 or 13 the possibility of no god(s) has always been in the back of my mind. "What if the athiests are right? The people who put the Bible together didn't know anything about dinosaurs or atoms or DNA." is something that haunts me in a very scary/nagging way.

Yeah, that's my view (maybe not Dawkins), but I just don't understand it either way. I mean...there must be some doubt. And I really don't mind Christians with reasonable views...I understand that you can believe in God...it seems unlikely to me, but it is a possibility. But there are so many fundamentalist people that are just horribly stupid....those are at least the ones I despise.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Astrology is not a science.

Wow, wow, Darwin was not Christian. Eistein also wasn't Christian and he did not believe in God. That are quotes either taking out of context or made up.

And well. As I replied to RJ. You should understand.

He never said Einstein was Christian.

Wow wow wow! Darwin was a Christian.

Einstein didn't believe in God no, but the fact that you don't know that quote yet debate about science and religion...speaks volumes!

Originally posted by Bardock42
Astrology is not a science.

Wow, wow, Darwin was not Christian. Eistein also wasn't Christian and he did not believe in God. That are quotes either taking out of context or made up.

And well. As I replied to RJ. You should understand.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I understand, you know I understand.

Please stop baiting him, its getting tedious.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Wow wow wow! Darwin was a Christian.

Einstein didn't believe in God no, but the fact that you don't know that quote yet debate about science and religion...speaks volumes!

Yeah, I must have mixed them up. I recall to have read a Darwin quote to the contrary, it might have been addressed to him though.

Also, you should read what I said. Not "That quote is..." but "That are quotes" ..referring to the many quotes that believers often use to paint Einstein as Religios or in their way spiritual, which he certainly wasn't.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Please stop baiting him, its getting tedious.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
He's extremely intellignet, relies on facts, and has a really convincing argument.

Depsite being a Christian, I'm not a mindless sheep. Since I was about 12 or 13 the possibility of no god(s) has always been in the back of my mind. "What if the athiests are right? The people who put the Bible together didn't know anything about dinosaurs or atoms or DNA." is something that haunts me in a very scary/nagging way.

Exactly, when the Bible was written, those stories were the best the people of an unscientific world could come up with, it's not that they were stupid, it's just what they had to work with.

It's very possible that there is a God or a higher power, yet the world factually works like the science community thinks it does, due to the luxuries of advanced science, technology, observation and research.

The people that bother me, and I believe that bother Bardock too, are the ones (aka fear mongers) that refuse to see past their book. The "it is written, so this has to be it" regardless of what new facts and proofs come to light.

As far as your nagging feeling, despite what the fundamentalist say, it is possible for you to be a Christian and believe in science.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, I must have mixed them up. I recall to have read a Darwin quote to the contrary, it might have been addressed to him though.

Darwin was raised Christian, but it ends there.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Religios

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I assumed "That are quotes" was a typo. As that line makes no sense.

But Einstein himself may not have been spiritual, but he certainly valued religion.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
I assumed "That are quotes" was a typo. As that line makes no sense.

But Einstein himself may not have been spiritual, but he certainly valued religion.

It does though. I explained it.

Either way...do you think most scientists are believers or atheists nowadays?

Originally posted by Bardock42
It does though. I explained it.

Either way...do you think most scientists are believers or atheists nowadays?

Atheists.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Darwin was raised Christian, but it ends there.

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I don't see how it relates to anything though. I mean especially before Darwin everyone had to be Religious, really.