An atheist speech.

Started by Quiero Mota18 pages
Originally posted by Robtard
As far as your nagging feeling, despite what the fundamentalist say, it is possible for you to be a Christian and believe in science.

It's impossible to not believe in science though (to a degree). Even the people who wrote the Bible knew that things fall down and that fire is hot.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Darwin was raised Christian, but it ends there.

Not at all, he was Christian until his death. However, as Sir Francis Bacon said, the Bible is the Book of Gods Words, whereas Physics is the book of Gods works. The Bible tells us why, not how. Or so Bacon felt.

The Book of Job talks about blood being the life of the flesh, this is long before anyone knew scientifically that blood carried the nutrients all across the body. They talk about these sort of things all through the bible but alot of people just miss them out.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
It's impossible to not believe in science though (to a degree). Even the people who wrote the Bible knew that things fall down and that fire is hot.

Yea... but is it scientific if you believe "God must have done it" as the answer to everything?

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Not at all, he was Christian until his death. However, as Sir Francis Bacon said, the Bible is the Book of Gods Words, whereas Physics is the book of Gods works. The Bible tells us why, not how. Or so Bacon felt.

The Book of Job talks about blood being the life of the flesh, this is long before anyone knew scientifically that blood carried the nutrients all across the body. They talk about these sort of things all through the bible but alot of people just miss them out.

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It's really hard to guess that blood has something to do with life...

Also, you are interpreting it a bit too much, they didn't really say anything much scientific.

How the hell does the man who put forth a powerful argument that clashed with the story of Adam & Eve believe the Bible to his death? He probably just said that to avoid being killed by bible thumpers.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yea... but is it scientific if you believe "God must have done it" as the answer to everything?

Good point.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
How the hell does the man who put forth a powerful argument that clashed with the story of Adam & Eve believe the Bible to his death? He probably just said that to avoid being killed by bible thumpers.
A good point. There might be lots of people who feared to speak out. I mean, there are in the US now still politicians that fear to speak out I am sure....

Originally posted by Bardock42
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It's really hard to guess that blood has something to do with life...

Also, you are interpreting it a bit too much, they didn't really say anything much scientific.

Ofcourse, cause you've actually read it.

Originally posted by Robtard
Yea... but is it scientific if you believe "God must have done it" as the answer to everything?

It depends what your basis for thinking that it..

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Ofcourse, cause you've actually read it.

I don't have to read the whole book to comment on what you said....

Originally posted by Bardock42
I don't have to read the whole book to comment on what you said....

The Book Of Job? Thats what im talking about, go read it then comment. Dawkins addmitted to not reading it when the dinosaur question came up.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
The Book Of Job? Thats what im talking about, go read it then comment. Dawkins addmitted to not reading it when the dinosaur question came up.
Jesus...alright. Brb.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Jesus...alright. Brb.

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Are you talking about the mention of Leviathan; it's description of a dinosaur like creature?

It's probably talks about a whale.

I started with the New International Version. Will that be alright? Or should I get one other? Also, this Leviathan was mentioned once so far, not explained what it is though.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
It's probably talks about a whale.

I've debated with a creationist before who used "Behemoth" and "Leviathan" from Job as proof that dinosaurs and man coexisted...

To me, they're metaphors of God's greatness and power as compared to man. Basically God saying "I am Godzilla; you are Tokyo".

Originally posted by Bardock42
I started with the New International Version. Will that be alright? Or should I get one other? Also, this Leviathan was mentioned once so far, not explained what it is though.

It's a gigantic sea creature, which God slayed, because God is such a badass mofo.

I don't believe man and dinosaur coexisted they way some people believe...the idea of men and raptors playing together is abhorrent. (I'm referring to that creationism museum in America that has opened up)

Originally posted by Bardock42
I started with the New International Version. Will that be alright? Or should I get one other? Also, this Leviathan was mentioned once so far, not explained what it is though.

Job 40:15 to about 41:7-8