Ultimate Nullifier vs. Anti-Monitor
Feats:
Ultimate Nullifier - Destroyed the Marvel MULTIVERSE one second and then REMADE the multiverse the next.
Anti-Monitor - Used tech to absorb universe by universe into his Anti-Matter Universe.
So, simple question.
What's more impressive: destroying every universe in the multiverse simultaneously or having to absorb them one by one?
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Just stop. The AM would survive a shot from the UN. Not up for discussion.
Originally posted by Superherovandal
i disagree....with the goobermeister. if he could withstand a direct creation blast from the spectre i say he survives the un
Originally posted by darthgooberif what u say is true, i might have to rethink the un killing am. darthgoober elaborate for me please.
AM vs the Spectre was the biggest piece of PIS that I've ever witnessed. AM wasn't even using his own power during that exchange because he expended nearly all of it breaching the dawn of time. The power that he used against the Spectre was the power of the remaining heroes that went to confront him, which means that the power of those heroes withstood the blast from Spectre. As I said, PIS at it's finest unless you think that those heroes had enough power to withstand Spectre.
some poeple think that he didnt die because spectre didnt wanna hurt the heroes wasnt that when he got punished for not stopping anti monitor or someone even when he could?
Anyway it depends on who is using the UN not anyone can just use it and destroy the multiverse it takes someone like galactus to do that and how did that from what im to understand
Originally posted by quanchi112
if what u say is true, i might have to rethink the un killing am. darthgoober elaborate for me please.
Yo.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Shortly after AM absorbed the power of the Anti Matter Universe, he traveled back to the dawn of time to rewrite all of history from the beginning. The remaining heroes(minus the Mages) traveled back to the dawn of time to stop him. When they arrived, they learned that AM was actually waiting there for them because he used nearly all the power he absorbed from the Anti Matter Universe to get to the dawn of time. He then absorbed the power of the heroes because he no longer had sufficient energy to restart history the way he'd intended. Then the Spectre showed up backed by the power of the Mages to stop him, and STILL failed. That means that the Wrath of God was unable to put down the combined powers of Earth's heroes, not that he was unable to put down the Anti Monitor. As I said, PIS at its finest.
but the goal of Spectre there wasnt to put down the AM, but to keep him from making the anti-U the SOLE universe made in the Creation Burst. and he ACCOMPLISHED that goal.
the fact that he didnt do so *easily* simply illustrated the powerfulness of his opponent (whom U could argue wasnt COMPLETELY draind of power since he *was* able to do wat he did to that hero assualt).
Tazer
Originally posted by darthgoober
Sorry Trick but I have to disagree. Even if you work under the assumption that the DC universe's were just as strong as a "standard" universe, AM still never possessed the power of the ENTIRE multiverse because he was still 5 universes shy of reaching THAT level of power. The UN can wipe out an ENTIRE multiverse with a single blast, so it should have more than enough power to wipe out AM.
THE universes were actually the same lvl as the marvels. That myth was retconned out when Krona was charged with releasing entropy instead of breaking the universes down.At any rate, The AM had the power of the Multiverses AND the AM universe which was equal. don't forget that the monitors say that the AM had destroyed an infinite amount. ALso the spectre shot a creation destroying and remaking blast at the AM and he survived it. There for the AM would survive the UN without much of a problem.
Originally posted by Mider999
some poeple think that he didnt die because spectre didnt wanna hurt the heroes wasnt that when he got punished for not stopping anti monitor or someone even when he could?Anyway it depends on who is using the UN not anyone can just use it and destroy the multiverse it takes someone like galactus to do that and how did that from what im to understand
I"ve been saying this for ever. Quasar for instance, cannot wield the UN like Reed or Galactus. Thus Quasar could never release a multiverse destroying blast.
Originally posted by grey fox
I say what I like
Even though Trickster says it constantly? 😐
Originally posted by grey fox
secondly AM was destroying/absorbing universes under his own power. The cannon thing was just to speed things up.
Besides the AM universe where do we see that he was absolutely doing it under his own power?
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Even though Trickster says it constantly? 😐Besides the AM universe where do we see that he was absolutely doing it under his own power?
Calling Bullshit is a reasonably well used phrase.
Secondly prove to me that Anti-monitor DID use tech to absorb the universes. If so I'll shut up.
Originally posted by grey fox
Calling Bullshit is a reasonably well used phrase.Secondly prove to me that Anti-monitor DID use tech to absorb the universes. If so I'll shut up.
It has been perverted 😐
Wasn't he really pissed when Flash destroyed the machine? If he could do it under his own power why would he care since there was no chance of stopping him anyway?
I'll admit I can't give absolute proof that he used tech but the only one where we know for certain that he didn't was the AM universe.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It has been perverted 😐Wasn't he really pissed when Flash destroyed the machine? If he could do it under his own power why would he care since there was no chance of stopping him anyway?
I'll admit I can't give absolute proof that he used tech but the only one where we know for certain that he didn't was the AM universe.
He was pissed because he wanted to hurry the process along and was caught by the 'interlopers' from his soon-to-be power. It's like you trying to microwave a slice of bacon quickly instead of cooking it slowly only to discover a fly has somehow destroyed your microwave.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It has been perverted 😐Wasn't he really pissed when Flash destroyed the machine? If he could do it under his own power why would he care since there was no chance of stopping him anyway?
I'll admit I can't give absolute proof that he used tech but the only one where we know for certain that he didn't was the AM universe.
Funny how half the people on this forum agree with me that AM didn't use tech.
And how is my saying 'calling BS' a perversion? 😒
Of course he was pissed, that canon took awhile to build. But destroy the remaining universes he did. He just couldn't take out the very last one.
And the reason you can't give absolute proof is because there is none. And every bit of evidence is against you. AM was powerful enough to turn the great GL battery on Oa's energies back onto itself. HE TURNED THE BATTERIES ENERGY BACK ONTO ITSELF AND DESTROYED THE GUARDIANS EASILY.
Credit to Galan for this.
The Guardians are just now senseing the imposing danger to ALL that is...."We need the complete Green Lantern Corps...... And even then, I fear for our success!".
Anti-Monitor speaks to the Guardians, and blasts them away like children. He did this through their own power source 😂:
