Ultimate Nullifier vs. Anti-Monitor

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
THE universes were actually the same lvl as the marvels. That myth was retconned out when Krona was charged with releasing entropy instead of breaking the universes down.At any rate, The AM had the power of the Multiverses AND the AM universe which was equal. don't forget that the monitors say that the AM had destroyed an infinite amount. ALso the spectre shot a creation destroying and remaking blast at the AM and he survived it. There for the AM would survive the UN without much of a problem.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Funny how half the people on this forum agree with me that AM didn't use tech.

Let's see, the destruction of the first of the positive matter universes was a fluke that was accomplished through tech and the destruction of the last 5 universes was going to be accomplished through tech, but for some reason we're supposed to ASSUME that AM took out EVERY single one of those other universes under his own power even though that's never actually established? Seems like something of a stretch in my book. That's not even mentioning the fact that before AM amped himself up by absorbing energy from the Anti Matter Universe, he was nearly killed by Supergirl, which is a clear indication that AM was no where NEAR as powerful as many would like people to believe when the positive matter universes were destroyed.

Originally posted by grey fox
He was pissed because he wanted to hurry the process along and was caught by the 'interlopers' from his soon-to-be power. It's like you trying to microwave a slice of bacon quickly instead of cooking it slowly only to discover a fly has somehow destroyed your microwave.

1. He spend BILLIONS of years slowly whittling down the number of positive matter universes, so another year or so to destroy the remaining 5 doesn't really seem like that big of a deal.

2. The only universe he DID destroy on panel(the Anti Matter Universe) contained far more power than the 5 remaining universes, and he absorbed it in SECONDS. So if he COULD have destroyed the remaining universes without tech, it would have much faster for him to do so without building a big ass cannon.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wrong. The Anti Matter Universe was one of the many PARTS of the Multiverse, it wasn't the equal in and of itself. And as I've already pointed out, AM sacrificed a lot of the Anti Matter Universe's power every time he destroyed one of the positive matter universes, so there's no way he could have had the accumulated power of ALL the universes. And since there's no way AM even had power equivalent to that of Multi Eternity(being 5 universes shy of a complete multiverse), it's completely within the bounds of the UN's power to take him out with a single blast.

WRONG. the Am was not just one part of the Multiverse. It was the equal and opposite of the entire Infinite verse. WTF. It's why the Anti Monitor was the Yin to the Yang of the Monitor. And the Monitor watched the entire multiverse. your theory is just debunk. And The UN is not taking out the Am. The Am is more than the multiternity. He was More powerful than the blast from the Spectre.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
WRONG. the Am was not just one part of the Multiverse. It was the equal and opposite of the entire Infinite verse. WTF. It's why the Anti Monitor was the Yin to the Yang of the Monitor. And the Monitor watched the entire multiverse. your theory is just debunk. And The UN is not taking out the Am. The Am is more than the multiternity. He was More powerful than the blast from the Spectre.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Except that the Monitors already said recently that it was some kind of quirk or twist of fate that there was only one monitor rather than one for each universe. And since the Anti Matter Universe was created at the same time as the rest of the DC universes, I really don't see how the Anti Matter Universe could have been as strong as the rest combined. Now if you have any PROOF to support that claim, I'll be more than willing to take a look at it, but at this point all you're basing your argument off of is speculation(which is pretty much normal for you).

Goober, you're outright wrong.

This scan is part of the proof that you are wrong.

Credit to Galan for this.

The Guardians are just now senseing the imposing danger to ALL that is....

"We need the complete Green Lantern Corps...... And even then, I fear for our success!".

Anti-Monitor speaks to the Guardians, and blasts them away like children. He did this through their own power source 😂:

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Goober, you're outright wrong.

This scan is part of the proof that you are wrong.

Credit to Galan for this.

The Guardians are just now senseing the imposing danger to ALL that is....

"We need the [b]complete Green Lantern Corps...... And even then, I fear for our success!".

Anti-Monitor speaks to the Guardians, and blasts them away like children. He did this through their own power source 😂:
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1. AM DIDN'T have the power of a full multiverse at his disposal, due to the 5 remaining positive matter universes. I don't care how many universes power he DID have, it still wasn't the COMPLETE multiverse.

2. The UN can wipe out a COMPLETE multiverse with a single shot.

That means that the UN can wipe out AM with ease, because a single blast from it is capable of wiping out all the power that AM DID have and then some. In fact, even if AM DID destroy the entire DC multiverse, he'd still only HAVE the power of a multiverse backing him(which would make him equal to Multi Eternity), the UN could STILL take him out with a single blast because the UN is capable of wiping out an entire Multiverse.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ok if I'm wrong, then prove it. What does that scan show exactly? It shows Anti Monitor KOing some skyfather level characters, using an outside power up(the Central Battery), while the skyfather level characters are caught off guard. Do you REALLY consider it to be THAT great of a feat? The UN could easily wipe out the Guardians and the GL Corps at the same time, so I don't get how you're seeing that scan as putting AM over the UN. Here let me break it down for you...

1. AM DIDN'T have the power of a full multiverse at his disposal, due to the 5 remaining positive matter universes. I don't care how many universes power he DID have, it still wasn't the COMPLETE multiverse.

2. The UN can wipe out a COMPLETE multiverse with a single shot.

That means that the UN can wipe out AM with ease, because a single blast from it is capable of wiping out all the power that AM DID have and then some. In fact, even if AM DID destroy the entire DC multiverse, he'd still only HAVE the power of a multiverse backing him(which would make him equal to Multi Eternity), the UN could STILL take him out with a single blast because the UN is capable of wiping out an entire Multiverse.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ok if I'm wrong, then prove it. What does that scan show exactly? It shows Anti Monitor KOing some skyfather level characters, using an outside power up(the Central Battery), while the skyfather level characters are caught off guard. Do you REALLY consider it to be THAT great of a feat? The UN could easily wipe out the Guardians and the GL Corps at the same time, so I don't get how you're seeing that scan as putting AM over the UN. Here let me break it down for you...

1. AM DIDN'T have the power of a full multiverse at his disposal, due to the 5 remaining positive matter universes. I don't care how many universes power he DID have, it still wasn't the COMPLETE multiverse.

2. The UN can wipe out a COMPLETE multiverse with a single shot.

That means that the UN can wipe out AM with ease, because a single blast from it is capable of wiping out all the power that AM DID have and then some. In fact, even if AM DID destroy the entire DC multiverse, he'd still only HAVE the power of a multiverse backing him(which would make him equal to Multi Eternity), the UN could STILL take him out with a single blast because the UN is capable of wiping out an entire Multiverse.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Except that the Monitors already said recently that it was some kind of quirk or twist of fate that there was only one monitor rather than one for each universe. And since the Anti Matter Universe was created at the same time as the rest of the DC universes, I really don't see how the Anti Matter Universe could have been as strong as the rest combined. Now if you have any PROOF to support that claim, I'll be more than willing to take a look at it, but at this point all you're basing your argument off of is speculation(which is pretty much normal for you).

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um NO. The Antimonitor was angry that the positive universes were encroaching upon his. ANd since you want to be an ass and say that's pretty much normal for me, catch this, the monitor's say in the recent countdown that had the monitor had a monitor for each universe, then the Crisis might not have happened. He was the only one to guard the Multiverse and the AM was the only guardian of the antimatter universe. and here is a kick for you in the head. In the original trial of krona, he was punished for splitting the Original universe and weakening them. Thus the original Antimatter universe was really on the power of one regular universe and the infinite earths were all weaker. But when DC retconned krona's trial into him releasing entropy, they amde each infinite earths a regular full strength universe but on a different vibrational plain. Thus retconning the infinite earths to each be a full strength universe retconned the Antimatter universe to be thier equal and thus making it the equal of the entire inifnite earth's multiverse. Game set and match. Now chew my leather. Base that off of speculation.

Originally posted by quanchi112
i never trust a word u say. u always exaggerate. un kills am with one shot.

Shut the **** up. I'm the one who showed the tards that the Universes were no longer weaker. And posted links to scans to prove it. And then someone else posted scans to back me. Now shut the **** up you lil troll. You just hate the fact that i'm right. Now if i'm wrong prove it or eat shit.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Here is where I have to correct you. He already had the power of the Anti matter Universe. The AM universe was already the equal and opposite of all the Multiverses. So he had that power in addition to the Positive universes that he did absorb which was nearly infinite.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um NO. The Antimonitor was angry that the positive universes were encroaching upon his. ANd since you want to be an ass and say that's pretty much normal for me, catch this, the monitor's say in the recent countdown that had the monitor had a monitor for each universe, then the Crisis might not have happened. He was the only one to guard the Multiverse and the AM was the only guardian of the antimatter universe. and here is a kick for you in the head. In the original trial of krona, he was punished for splitting the Original universe and weakening them. Thus the original Antimatter universe was really on the power of one regular universe and the infinite earths were all weaker. But when DC retconned krona's trial into him releasing entropy, they amde each infinite earths a regular full strength universe but on a different vibrational plain. Thus retconning the infinite earths to each be a full strength universe retconned the Antimatter universe to be thier equal and thus making it the equal of the entire inifnite earth's multiverse. Game set and match. Now chew my leather. Base that off of speculation.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Shut the **** up. I'm the one who showed the tards that the Universes were no longer weaker. And posted links to scans to prove it. And then someone else posted scans to back me. Now shut the **** up you lil troll. You just hate the fact that i'm right. Now if i'm wrong prove it or eat shit.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Proof?

go find it your ****ing selt. Since I speculate so much. I'd just love for you to look a fool like the other who tried to say the Universes were weaker. Since you opened up your mouth to insult me. and try reading count down if your going to be discussing anything to do with the Anti monitor. it might help you debate this more.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
go find it your ****ing selt. Since I speculate so much. I'd just love for you to look a fool like the other who tried to say the Universes were weaker. Since you opened up your mouth to insult me. and try reading count down if your going to be discussing anything to do with the Anti monitor. it might help you debate this more.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
go find it your ****ing selt. Since I speculate so much. I'd just love for you to look a fool like the other who tried to say the Universes were weaker. Since you opened up your mouth to insult me. and try reading count down if your going to be discussing anything to do with the Anti monitor. it might help you debate this more.

Originally posted by quanchi112
quit insulting people. put a stop to it at once. just debate comics. and show ur proof. no need to insult everyone who disagrees with u. 😮

Mods are gonna come in

IMO, UN ftw

Good to see the AM back

Originally posted by darthgoober
So what you're saying is that you HAVE no proof?

So what i'm saying is you don't. I've already posted the proof before when I proved that the universes were NOT weaker. It's not on me to post it again. Find it yourself or the post of the other person who posted the actual pics for me. It seems to me you saying I"m speculating when you dont' what your talking about makes you look silly. And I don't appreciate the attack when you have none and had nothing to counter to say I was speculating. you NEVER do.