Death of the New Gods

Started by HueyFreeman42 pages

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You mean in terms of personality and motivation? Yeah, alot of them are assholes. Apokolips comes as no surprise, everyone there would backstab DS and each other given the chance. But even New Genesis has their faults with the bug situation.

They're not all bad, but they're not the altruistic gods who look out for mankind.

Although they've definitely had their hand in mankind's affairs for a long time. I'm not sure how far back Seven Soldiers puts it with the Aurakles thing.

I don't really mean skyfathers but more along the lines of Yahweh, or the Source, or the God from the Preacher series. Many of them are pricks. The Source caught me by surprise because I didn't expect him to be a douchebag too. Frankly even though hes the villian, I want Darkseid to win.

DC writers cannot write God to save their lives.

Now THAT I disagree with most vehemently. You've obviously never read Lucifer, Swamp Thing, The Hal Jordan Spectre, etc.

Just because Starlin is a hack, doesn't mean DC can't write god. ❌

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Now THAT I disagree with most vehemently. You've obviously never read Lucifer, Swamp Thing, The Hal Jordan Spectre, etc.

Just because Starlin is a hack, doesn't mean DC can't write god. ❌

I've read Swamp Thing and Lucifer, both depictions of God while completely superior to Starlin's still doesn't amount to the absolute omnipotence and omniscience that a true God should show. Duality in divinity -such as an absolute evil and an absolute good, shown often as very partial- is a relatively poor depiction of God. Its also cannon to the DC universe.

But you are about the one shown in the Specter is actually quite good, so I must at least partially retire my argument.

Morrison had a nice take on God too 🙂

ok, I misinterpreted your arguement. But the concept of an absolute almighty perfect god is just one interpretation, and not necessarily the end-all and be-all of gods.

Basically, we're just bashing Starlin for not being original. 😛

I expect Morrison and Johns to completely one-up him in FC. evillaugh

My secret fear is that if the DC god is not omniscient he may be eventually outsmarted by Batman.

Originally posted by Bentley
My secret fear is that if the DC god is not omniscient he may be eventually outsmarted by Batman.

Then you need to get a life.

You can interpret it that way, or you can just see that I'm a fearless man. g_grin

You've posted on the religion forum. Odds are that actually is something you fear.

I have to accept he owned me there.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You've posted on the religion forum. Odds are that actually is something you fear.
hysterical

Batdude would start a religion if that happened. "What is the first commandment of Batman?" "He is the GOD DAMN Batman, and he shall be obeyed!" "What is the 2nd commandment of Batman?" "The Batman shall always be prepped, no matter the situation!" "What is the 3rd commandment of Batman?" "The Batman always wins with prep!"

I could keep this gag going, but I think Fatnude would kill me for blasphemy. vin

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
hysterical

Batdude would start a religion if that happened. "What is the first commandment of Batman?" "He is the GOD DAMN Batman, and he shall be obeyed!" "What is the 2nd commandment of Batman?" "The Batman shall always be prepped, no matter the situation!" "What is the 3rd commandment of Batman?" "The Batman always wins with prep!"

I could keep this gag going, but I think Fatnude would kill me for blasphemy. vin

😂

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
the GOD DAMN Batman

Frank Miller is a nutjob.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Frank Miller is a nutjob.

Agreed, but that line is now legendary. 😎

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
You mean in terms of personality and motivation? Yeah, alot of them are assholes. Apokolips comes as no surprise, everyone there would backstab DS and each other given the chance. But even New Genesis has their faults with the bug situation.

They're not all bad, but they're not the altruistic gods who look out for mankind.

Although they've definitely had their hand in mankind's affairs for a long time. I'm not sure how far back Seven Soldiers puts it with the Aurakles thing.

Aurakles was enhanced by the New Gods in super-pre-history. Like, as in "millions of years before our Neanderthal ancestors." There was two whole human civilizations that evolved, developed, and grew over the course of millenia in between the start of our branch of humanity and Aurakles.

barff!!

Originally posted by Galan007
hmm

Maybe Alex was on to something afterall...

Yeah, I remember that. When I read that in Infinite Crisis, I threw up. Even Marvel does not stroke their most popular characters like that. Well, except maybe Wolverine.
dur

The only reason Supes didn't beat him, is because IM resorted to construct containment. 👇

Barff!!

Originally posted by Estacado
I would lmao @ quanchi if Starlin would make Darkseid beat the Source.......haermm
Why would you laugh. Starlin I am sure respects Darkseid and should write him this way. He is without a doubt the best new god out there so if anyone should do it it should be him.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Apparently not, as the real Darkseid actually first appears in Final Crisis not DOTNG, so it's most likely only avatars merely working. Who knows we shall see, but either way it's not going to be the normal Darkseid we see in FC.
Ithink it will be hilarious if they retcon his entire history to bring him back up to a badass. It shows the lengths of some writers. Ok....everything you have seen about this character really wasnt the real deal. Even when characters went to Apokolips and this and that. Its kinda laughable but we will see how it all plays out. Its all speculation until it hits the shelves.

Originally posted by Unnatural-POWER
I think showings like this show that Superman and Thanos are peers, rather then two entirely different leagues of power.

I'm still of the opinion that Superman CAN beat Thanos, more so than before after the IM fight.

In this same book Supes was beaten by shadow demons and easily. He was also at Kalibak and Mantis' mercy. Also he didnt do one thing to IM and was basically contained because he wasnt there to kill Supes. Lucky him because he was such a nonfactor.