Death of the New Gods

Started by -K-M-42 pages
Originally posted by Cerpin Taxt
They tried to explain the last part by saying plenty of New Gods died before Lightray. He was just the first we saw.

Well in DOTNG #1 they showed all the Gods who were killed around the time of Lightray and it really wasn't that much. However, DOTNG contradicted itself a few times though.

well it makes sense to me seeing as how everyone who exists in the 4th world technically is a new god....even the slaves and shit on apok...and those bug ppl on new gen.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Except DS gained their power drinking the Soulfire Project and when all the New Gods were dead. In Countdown Jimmy had all their powers even before Lightray was killed. I just don't see how this fits

Thats not what the Soul Fire Project is... And you guys are still wrong about what the New Gods powers was used for. Still have some reading to do it seems. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by kevdude
Thats not what the Soul Fire Project is... And you guys are still wrong about what the New Gods powers was used for. Still have some reading to do it seems. 😮‍💨
Wow now your just trying to be annoying, you know your wrong, so admit it. 😂

Originally posted by Troop
Wow now your just trying to be annoying, you know your wrong, so admit it. 😂

Are you retarded??? Start trying to read the book (or books since you obviously haven't done) for once then you can talk to me again! 😱

Originally posted by manjaro
i dont get it...dude specififcally says that he knows bonding with other new gods increase power.

Also he says categoricallly that he is being fueled by new god souls....so i dont see what the big misinterpretation is about

Originally posted by kevdude
Are you retarded??? Start trying to read the book (or books since you obviously haven't done) for once then you can talk to me again! 😱
Read the scans dumbass. 😂

Originally posted by -K-M-
Except DS gained their power drinking the Soulfire Project and when all the New Gods were dead. In Countdown Jimmy had all their powers even before Lightray was killed. I just don't see how this fits
Because Darkseid could tap into the power inside of Jimmy with a thought through the device inside Jimmy until Atom messed it up.

Has the SoulFireProject ever been mentioned before?

Originally posted by Juntai
Because Darkseid could tap into the power inside of Jimmy with a thought through the device inside Jimmy until Atom messed it up.

Where did it say he could tap into them when Jimmy had them? As I remember he mentioned multiple times he had to reabsorb the powers from Jimmy physically, and that's why they tried to keep them apart

In DONG #8, DS said he could tap into the power with a thought. In Countdown, he had to reabsorb it. Go figure.

Originally posted by Cerpin Taxt
In DONG #8, DS said he could tap into the power with a thought. In Countdown, he had to reabsorb it. Go figure.

meh, In countdown, Darkseid = dead, but (supposedly) in Final Crisis, Darkseid = winner 😉

Originally posted by -K-M-
Where did it say he could tap into them when Jimmy had them? As I remember he mentioned multiple times he had to reabsorb the powers from Jimmy physically, and that's why they tried to keep them apart
I think juntai has it right although it is like deciphering some cryptic message. Its tough figuring this out but I do believe he stored them into jimmy and could control the power with a thought but it was altered when atom destroyed his device. Then I guess he had to destroy jimmy to fully take the powers for himself permanently.

I think he was coming after jimmy because he wanted to absorb the powers at the time and didnt want to leave this vast energy in him any longer. He was just going to kill him powerless but when Atom destroyed the device that made it a fight. This made jimmy able to retain control of his powers although it didnt make any difference as Darkseid whipped his ass nonetheless.

This is indeed tricky to follow as the writers didnt communicate enough for it to add it up and make perfect sense.

Jimmy lost the powers when Atom destroyed the device which is when Orion showed up. That's why in CD, DS and Orion were fighting at their normal power levels.

Originally posted by Cerpin Taxt
Jimmy lost the powers when Atom destroyed the device which is when Orion showed up. That's why in CD, DS and Orion were fighting at their normal power levels.
I meant when he cut off control of him the first time but I do need to reread it again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I meant when he cut off control of him the first time but I do need to reread it again.
Why punish yourself any further?

Even before Atom cut off DS's control, Darkseid has to activate Jimmy's power using the omega beams causing him to emit kryptonite taking out Superman. So even then he really wasn't tapping into the power with a thought.

Starlin was probably very vague when explaining to the writers of Countdown what he was doing in DOTNG which pretty much explains the numerous contradictions between the two.

Starlin contradicted himself in his own book, as noted if the Source Wall is destroyed the Bleed will seep into the DCU universe and the Source merging with his other self would be impossible. Yet when the Wall was destroyed, he instantly merged and the Bleed was no where to be seen.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Starlin contradicted himself in his own book, as noted if the Source Wall is destroyed the Bleed will seep into the DCU universe and the Source merging with his other self would be impossible. Yet when the Wall was destroyed, he instantly merged and the Bleed was no where to be seen.

It's possible the Source didn't allow it to, although I doubt he thought about it. The Bleed was also was sweeping in reality when Darkseid and the Source fought.