Originally posted by Wonder ManWarpath has never been a 100 tonner. He was class 75 at best.
Warpath has been a 100toner since X-force. in X-force 14 he went toe to toe with Juggernaut who said he was just as strong as Colossus.
I don't see the difference between a 100ton god or a 100ton man in a fight unless you mean the age difference...there's a lot to be said for youth however.
His latest handbook ranking is 25 tons max. He has been officially depowered.
Originally posted by Wonder Man
Warpath has been a 100toner since X-force. in X-force 14 he went toe to toe with Juggernaut who said he was just as strong as Colossus.
I don't see the difference between a 100ton god or a 100ton man in a fight unless you mean the age difference...there's a lot to be said for youth however.
His powers have changed a lot.
After Brubaker's overhaul, he lost the ability to fly and is a lot weaker.
Originally posted by Artemis1860
Can you show me Hercules being cut by Vibranium? I guarantee you can't.
He can show you a picture of Herc having been downed by a BONE CLAW Logan though. 😐
Anyone trying to imply that Herc is standing up to ibranium knives backed with class 40 super strength is just using some wishful thinking here.
Originally posted by jinzinActually it's Class 25 strength at best. But you have good points.
He can show you a picture of Herc having been downed by a BONE CLAW Logan though. 😐Anyone trying to imply that Herc is standing up to ibranium knives backed with class 40 super strength is just using some wishful thinking here.
Originally posted by Citizen V
Matches are judged soley on feats, how else are they supposed to be judged? 😬, I don't care whether it's 'unfair' (Warpath has been around for 24 years, a quarter of a century), it's the way it is done.Do you have comics on your computer? if so upload them onto a site (eg: www.photobucket.com) and post them here, show me some examples of Warpath being able to hurt anybody on the level of Hercules, because otherwise you're just speculating.
Hercules [b]still
wins 9/10 IMO. [/B]
Well, if it's any consolation Warpath DID fight classic Juggernaught for what was later stated to be the better half of an entire evening, he stated that he hadn't even been hurt.
I don't quite agree with your logic, we haven't seen Warpath smash a baby into street pizza on panel either but that doesn't strictly rule out that he can. Beating Herc is not outside of his ability to do here.
His agility, is better than Hercs.
He's well versed in hand to hand combat and learned swordplay and martial arts from Shatterstar. His durability is high enough to take a few hits from Herc and continue to get up, and frankly he has weapons that most likely can hurt Herc. You speak of speculation (in spite of these threads being damn near entirely speculatory 🙄..), why don't you post some proof that Herc can't be cut by something as durable or damaging as vibranium knives?
Originally posted by What If...
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How so?
Name one feat that Namor has produced in combat that Wolverine hasn't been able to match?
Wolverine has hit Namor EVERY time they've fought except for one where he pulled his punch at the last second so he wouldn't scewer Namor and two of those time he was being mind controlled.
Call llagrok an idiot if you like, but evidence is telling me that the village wants YOU back not him.
Originally posted by jinzin
Well, if it's any consolation Warpath DID fight classic Juggernaught for what was later stated to be the better half of an entire evening, he stated that he hadn't even been hurt.I don't quite agree with your logic, we haven't seen Warpath smash a baby into street pizza on panel either but that doesn't strictly rule out that he can. Beating Herc is not outside of his ability to do here.
His agility, is better than Hercs.
He's well versed in hand to hand combat and learned swordplay and martial arts from Shatterstar. His durability is high enough to take a few hits from Herc and continue to get up, and frankly he has weapons that most likely can hurt Herc. You speak of speculation (in spite of these threads being damn near entirely speculatory 🙄..), why don't you post some proof that Herc can't be cut by something as durable or damaging as vibranium knives?
Because, I don't care enough about this match enough to bother, to be honest.
😂 Yeah, vs forums really are nothing but speculation, but you get what I mean.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Warpath has never been a 100 tonner. He was class 75 at best.His latest handbook ranking is 25 tons max. He has been officially depowered.
Has he been depowered by anythng OTHER than the handbook?
I'll be honest, I've only seen a limited number of his recent x appearances so i don't know when thi official depowering took place, but if we're only basing his strength on the handbook.. well.....
Originally posted by jinzinHe's also lost his ability to fly also as stated in the handbook and lack of flying and strength feats make it credible.
Has he been depowered by anythng OTHER than the handbook?I'll be honest, I've only seen a limited number of his recent x appearances so i don't know when thi official depowering took place, but if we're only basing his strength on the handbook.. well.....
Originally posted by Citizen V
Because, I don't care enough about this match enough to bother, to be honest.
Then you don't have much grounds to be criticizing him for his lack of proof pot, after all he IS only the kettle here. 😬
Originally posted by Citizen V
😂 Yeah, vs forums really are nothing but speculation, but you get what I mean.
I think I do, but you're trying to discredit Warpath's stated capabilities based sole on the fact that Llagrok can't post them in action. And, while handbooks are notoriously wrong, they have by and larger a tendency to no give characters enough credit as opposed to overpower them, just something to ponder.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
He's also lost his ability to fly also as stated in the handbook and lack of flying and strength feats make it credible.
So he HAS to produce feats on a regular basis to make it credible?
So if Superman doesn't produce egular heat vision feats he has no heat vision?
Okay has Warpath failed to lift something circa 50 tons or something?
Originally posted by jinzinWell...if his handbook says he cannot and his comic showings dictate that same fact you do the math.
So he HAS to produce feats on a regular basis to make it credible?So if Superman doesn't produce egular heat vision feats he has no heat vision?
Okay has Warpath failed to lift something circa 50 tons or something?
Originally posted by jinzin
So he HAS to produce feats on a regular basis to make it credible?So if Superman doesn't produce egular heat vision feats he has no heat vision?
Okay has Warpath failed to lift something circa 50 tons or something?
Originally posted by jinzin
Then you don't have much grounds to be criticizing him for his lack of proof pot, after all he IS only the kettle here. 😬I think I do, but you're trying to discredit Warpath's stated capabilities based sole on the fact that Llagrok can't post them in action. And, while handbooks are notoriously wrong, they have by and larger a tendency to no give characters enough credit as opposed to overpower them, just something to ponder.
Critisizing him? I wasn't, I was just saying that claims me very little without proof and then instructed him unto how to show said proof through image-hosting sites.
I would continue this, but I've had a long day at work and I can't be bothered surfing the net for scans 😬, especially when neither character in this thread interests me enough to do so.
But anybody here stating that Warpath takes Hercules for 'at least' 8/10, is either crazy or stupid IMO. Hercules for a healthy majority (via experience, strength and his huge endurarance advantage), it's not like Herc's not tagged speedsters before either.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Are you saying Warpath is still class 75 and can fly?
I'm not saying anything, I'm asking a question, where in the comics did Warpath get depowered.. I didn't see it, and the fact that a handbook states his strength is less than what it used to be is means nothing to me, the handbooks also stated friggin CYBER had less than peak human strength, I should hope I don't even need to begin to tell yo what's wrong with that.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Well...if his handbook says he cannot and his comic showings dictate that same fact you do the math.
If his comic showings dictated the same as fact I wouldn't be asking would I?
Again, are there feats of Warpath's strength level failing?
The reason I ask is because someone said that his strength's at his classic level, but his classic level was STILL in the 70-80 range.
Originally posted by jinzinHis bio said his mutant nature settled to a new level.
I'm not saying anything, I'm asking a question, where in the comics did Warpath get depowered.. I didn't see it, and the fact that a handbook states his strength is less than what it used to be is means nothing to me, the handbooks also stated friggin CYBER had less than peak human strength, I should hope I don't even need to begin to tell yo what's wrong with that.