Why is God so great?

Started by Boris9 pages

Hahaha, can't argue with that.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Drugs are listed as a "work of the flesh" i.e. a sin.
So medicine is a sin? 😖

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Jesus made wine, and alcohol is a drug.

You incorrectly assume that all wine has alcohol.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
So medicine is a sin? 😖

Are you claiming this? No one on this forum has said that medicine is sinful.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Are you claiming this? No one on this forum has said that medicine is sinful.

A medicine is a drug... It's just a (Hopefully) perscribed and properly dosed one.

Originally posted by King Kandy
A medicine is a drug... It's just a (Hopefully) perscribed and properly dosed one.

Drugs are not sinful (at least I never stated that they were). Here is what I wrote:

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Galatians 5:19-21
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

The word sorcery in verse 20 is the Greek word pharmakeia (fär-mä-kâ'-ä), it is defined as:

1) the use or the administering of drugs

2) poisoning

3) sorcery, magical arts, often found in connection with idolatry and fostered by it

4) metaph. the deceptions and seductions of idolatry

So the word sorcery encompasses the use of drugs (in a negative vein as to be distinguished from medicinal purposes).

http://cf.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G5331&Version=kjv

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You incorrectly assume that all wine has alcohol.

Um... That's true, it's not a bad assumption at all.

How do you know that he was refering to the first definition of Sorcery?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Um... That's true, it's not a bad assumption at all.

Ever heard of non-alcoholic wine?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Drugs are not sinful (at least I never stated that they were). Here is what I wrote:
So what drugs are bad and which are not, most drugs are used for medical reasons.

Originally posted by King Kandy
How do you know that he was refering to the first definition of Sorcery?

They're all included.

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
So what drugs are bad and which are not, most drugs are used for medical reasons.

Drugs not used strictly for medicinal purposes only are being used to get high, and thus are being used inappropriately. That makes the act sinful. Drugs are sinful if they are not used for their intended design and purpose. Drugs should never be used to get high. All narcotics and contraband are not only sinful, but they are illegal.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Ever heard of [B]non-alcoholic wine? [/B]

Yeah... It's not true wine, and there'n no reason to think that that's what Jesus created.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Drugs not used strictly for medicinal purposes [B]only are being used to get high, and thus are being used inappropriately. That makes the act sinful. Drugs are sinful if they are not used for their intended design and purpose. Drugs should never be used to get high. All narcotics and contraband are not only sinful, but they are illegal. [/B]
You don't understand much about drugs do you; almost every narcotic is used for medical purposes and even in the hospital you are getting high, that is why they use them is that it helps to relieve pain.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
They're all included.

No... There's zero reason for you to think that.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah... It's not true wine, and there'n no reason to think that that's what Jesus created.

There is no such animal as true wine.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Ever heard of [B]non-alcoholic wine? [/B]
I believe that is called fruit juice 😉

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Drugs not used strictly for medicinal purposes [B]only are being used to get high, and thus are being used inappropriately. That makes the act sinful. Drugs are sinful if they are not used for their intended design and purpose. Drugs should never be used to get high. All narcotics and contraband are not only sinful, but they are illegal. [/B]

What do you think of medical Marijuana then?

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
You don't understand much about drugs do you; almost every narcotic is used for medical purposes and even in the hospital you are getting high, that is why they use them is that it helps to relieve pain.

The situation that you describe falls under the context of medicinal purposes which is in keeping with the intended design and purpose of the drug (just like I said). Hence, I have not erred nor contradicted myself.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
There is no such animal as true wine.

Yes there is... Ask any winery.

Here, straight from dictionary.com:

"1. the fermented juice of grapes, made in many varieties, such as red, white, sweet, dry, still, and sparkling, for use as a beverage, in cooking, in religious rites, etc., and usually having an alcoholic content of 14 percent or less.
2. a particular variety of such fermented grape juice: port and sherry wines.
3. the juice, fermented or unfermented, of various other fruits or plants, used as a beverage, sauce, etc.: gooseberry wine; currant wine.
4. a dark reddish color, as of red wines.
5. Pharmacology. vinum.
6. something that invigorates, cheers, or intoxicates like wine.
7. British. a. a social gathering at which wine is the major beverage.
b. a party, esp. one held by university students, for drinking wine.

8. Obsolete. intoxication due to the drinking of wine. "

Wine is fermented fruit, almost always grapes... Which gives is alchohal content.