that holds no weight or evidence in this battle, the bible is supposed to be Gods book, he wouldnt put in it that anything of his is weaker than satans would he, most knowledge of God and his forces are from the bible but none of it has any weight, if America were going to write a book on their forces and Europe wrote one on theirs to compare them, neither are likely to have anything at all stating weakneses, they would simply be listing amounts of atomic bombs, maybe even exaggerations and the fire power of their weaponry
ime quite sure if the Devil had his own book it would say "the devil could easily defeat jesus and angels single handed and then follow on to do the same to God"
taking also into account that it was all written by human beings who fear as well as worship him, their not going to write anythng bad about him and good for something thats plagueing them
Originally posted by Burning thought
that holds no weight or evidence in this battle, the bible is supposed to be Gods book, he wouldnt put in it that anything of his is weaker than satans would he, most knowledge of God and his forces are from the bible but none of it has any weight, if America were going to write a book on their forces and Europe wrote one on theirs to compare them, neither are likely to have anything at all stating weakneses, they would simply be listing amounts of atomic bombs, maybe even exaggerations and the fire power of their weaponryime quite sure if the Devil had his own book it would say "the devil could easily defeat jesus and angels single handed and then follow on to do the same to God"
taking also into account that it was all written by human beings who fear as well as worship him, their not going to write anythng bad about him and good for something thats plagueing them
Oh, so its God vs Satan, but not THAT God vs THAT Satan, we get to make up new ones based on how we think they should be made.
Well, in that case GODZILLAANDROIDOCTOPUS v168495 from the year 7764875 wins.
Originally posted by BlaxicanHydraWell the book wasn't written by him, but by man who as stated feared him. Depending on who you talk to the requirements to get into Heaven are very strict so if you look at sheer number of followers Hell has got Heaven out numbered like 1000 to 1 which could easily take down stronger fighters. 😉
Right.. except this was book was also written by the guy who... oh.. I don't know... created and alterd everything and anything. He's God, after all. He's the creator, and anything he makes he can unmake.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Demons>Angels plus Devil has Demons ,far more terrible than Gods legions even if they can dodge the corruption, they still face some beastly beings, only diffrence is that while Angels are used to sitting around blissfully in heaven, the weather/hell beaten demons of the dark would be more than ready for any battle and more than prepared to go into the fray
Just so you know, biblical angels are fearsome beings (see the descriptions in Ezekiel, Daniel, Isaiah, Revelation, etc...), not the cute, pudgy winged babies that adorn Hallmark cards on Valentine's Day.
Originally posted by Burning thought
[Bthen it comes down to God and Satan themselves, Satan has shown many times his power, wheras God only speaks of it, there are many accounts of Satan corrupting, Satan has done this, Satan has done that, Satan has messed up all Gods plans because he started the original sin, not to menstion God is pictured as either a bright light in the sky or in a humioid form, an elderly white haired man, or usually an elderly man in white robes wheras Satan is a monstrous, often tall musculer entity with horns and sometimes an attitude, either viscious or showing intellect and arrogence, regardless, old man<tall musculer horned entity[/B]
This is so stupid, I assume you're joking. Biblical discriptions of God do not corroborate your pop-culture cartoon. Again, see Ezekiel, Exodus, Genesis, Daniel, Job, and Revelation, in which God manifests himself, among other things, as the spirit hovering over the void of chaos before the world was formed, a voice from the whirlwind, a pillar of fire, a brilliant, ineffable glory surrounded by covering Seraphim. Since Lucifer is traditionally reckoned to be a fallen Seraph, and since God is generally surrounded by a handful of them at all times, I assume this means that before he even got to God, Satan would have to fight his way through the divine body guard, which would already consist of several beings of similar power to himself.
[i]plus God cannot win, not without losing everything, simply because there is evil inside everyone, there are many types of wickedness even if it is by accident or you do not realise it, you could simply cause hate within others because of what your doing, even if what your doing is supposed to be for good, its still wickedness, so he would have to wipe out the human race as well if he would get rid of evil [/B]
Well actually, Satan faces a worse ontological/moral dilemma (I'll borrow from Augustine here). Since all things were created good, that means that all being is good by virtue of its existence. Being > Non-being. Unless you're a Manichean, evil has no independent existence, but rather, always merely exists as a perversion of the good (or rather, the choice of a lesser good over a greater one). Satan can only corrupt, he can't create. Therefore, Satan's position is far more tenuous. He is utterly dependent on an intrinsically good creation to corrupt for his purposes. This is why evil is so insistent, so agressive. It resents the good that it cannot escape but which it wishes to deny. So it sets itself off in a perpetual fury to allay its own secret fear that it is an actual nullity.