Fruit of the vine: Did Jesus drink fermented (i.e. alcoholic) wine?

Started by Bardock429 pages

Originally posted by Boris
Yeah that's the normal size.

Only small can's you can get here are Bud Lite.. but no one drinks that piss.

Haha, come on, that's a little oversized.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Chapter and verse please.

Jesus drank [B]fruit of the vine (i.e. grape juice). [/B]

Wrong, Jesus did drink wine (i.e. grape juice with alcohol); Jesus admits this himself.

"For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and
you say, 'He has a demon.' The Son of Man came eating and drinking,
and you say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax
collectors and "sinners."'" (Luke 7:33-34)

"A jar of wine vinegar was there, so they soaked a sponge in it, put
the sponge on a stalk of the hyssop plant, and lifted it to Jesus'
lips. When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is finished."
With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit." (John 19:29-30)

Also, during the last supper, the apostles along with Jesus were all getting wasted off alcohol, they weren't sipping grape juice.

Originally posted by Boris
Yeah that's the normal size.

Normal size is about 500 ml. The one shown, was about 668ml AKA a pint can, that's not the normal size.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Chapter and verse please.

Jesus drank [B]fruit of the vine (i.e. grape juice). [/B]

OK, now you are just getting ridiculous. You say that it was non-alcoholic wine, then grape juice but post quotes saying that it is wine.

Matthew 26:29 "But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom."

Mark 14:25 "Assuredly, I say to you, I will no longer drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God."

Luke 22:18 "For I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes."

So it is a sin to drink grape juice?

I'm going to report JIA for not being able to handle the truth.

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
I'm going to report JIA for not being able to handle the truth.

That is very hypocritical of you. 😛 😆

Good one.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Normal size is about 500 ml. The one shown, was about 668ml AKA a pint can, that's not the normal size.

Yeah you're right, 500ml is the norm. I thought that was one too, but a 668ml can? Very random number, why not a 670? Or 700ml?

Yeah I thought that, but I bought 4 668ml Foster's earlier and the reason it's that size, is that it pours into a perfect pint.

Let me lay it on the line
He had two on the vine
I mean two pairs of testicles
So divine

Originally posted by Sandai Kitetsu
I'm going to report JIA for not being able to handle the truth.

Hey, the truth cannot handle me.

💃

As in the Gospel? Are you saying you're better than the Gospel, JIA?

WHO GIVES A **** IF JESUS DRANK ALCOHOLIC/NONALCOHOLIC WINE? THE BIBLE IS NOT AGAINST DRINKING.

There's a vicar in my local who drinks like a fish.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
There's a vicar in my local who drinks like a fish.

😂

Originally posted by FeceMan
WHO GIVES A **** IF JESUS DRANK ALCOHOLIC/NONALCOHOLIC WINE? THE BIBLE IS NOT AGAINST DRINKING.
I must say that was basically the point I was trying to make.

Also, what ****ing moron posted such a large pic. ****ing *******.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Hey, the truth cannot handle me.

💃

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
OK, now you are just getting ridiculous. You say that it was non-alcoholic wine, then grape juice but post quotes saying that it is wine.

Matthew 26:29 "But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father's kingdom."

Mark 14:25 "Assuredly, I say to you, I will no longer drink of the fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new in the kingdom of God."

Luke 22:18 "For I say to you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes."

So it is a sin to drink grape juice?

Answer please 😉

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
Answer please 😉

Well, some people incorrectly interpret the phrase fruit of the vine to mean wine. I firmly believe that it simply denotes grape juice.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Well, some people incorrectly interpret the phrase fruit of the vine to mean wine. I firmly believe that it simply denotes grape juice.
In the posts that you have made from the Bible and I have reposted from your link it says don’t drink “fruit of the vine”, and you say that fruit of the vine is grape juice so by that it would be a sin to drink grape juice. Many other passages from the Bible say not to get drunk, why would the talk about getting drunk if drinking wine at all was a sin? Your own faith is divided by this so how can you be so sure and absolute in your view?

Originally posted by PITT_HAPPENS
In the posts that you have made from the Bible and I have reposted from your link it says don’t drink “fruit of the vine”, and you say that fruit of the vine is grape juice so by that it would be a sin to drink grape juice. Many other passages from the Bible say not to get drunk, why would the talk about getting drunk if drinking wine at all was a sin? Your own faith is divided by this so how can you be so sure and absolute in your view?

How could it say

"don't drink fruit of the vine"?

I have never said that and that phrase is nowhere near the Bible.