Minus the ninpo, I can't see Ayane taking any matches. Sagat is just too damn tough. And the speed difference doesn't matter much when most of her attacks won't slow him down, whereas his attacks will break her. I don't see her taking 3 tiger uppercuts. I give her speed and skill props, but her durability isn't good enough to survive more than a few tiger uppercuts.
God help her if she pisses him off..... btw Snafu is right. The teleport is a liability if she overuses it. And I don't care about DOA's shitty game mechanics, she's not countering a tiger genocide, tiger raid or a tiger shot when she comes out of a teleport. Even blocking attacks like that will wear her down considerably.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Minus the ninpo, I can't see Ayane taking any matches. Sagat is just too damn tough. And the speed difference doesn't matter much when most of her attacks won't slow him down, whereas his attacks will break her. I don't see her taking 3 tiger uppercuts. I give her speed and skill props, but her durability isn't good enough to survive more than a few tiger uppercuts.
Sagat is just too damn tough is not really an argument. Don't discount speed difference. She has phenomenal leg power. Speed + leg strength + unpredictability + smart use of teleportation can be really dangerous. Who's saying Ayane will let him Tiger Uppercut her 3 times? Considering their difference in size I think she is smart enough to realize she does not want to get hit by him.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
God help her if she pisses him off..... btw Snafu is right. The teleport is a liability if she overuses it. And I don't care about DOA's shitty game mechanics, she's not countering a tiger genocide, tiger raid or a tiger shot when she comes out of a teleport. Even blocking attacks like that will wear her down considerably.
God help Sagat if he pisses Ayane off. She won't be playing nice then. She will go for the kill using her blade. Ayane is not stupid, TP. She will not be spamming teleports in every second of the match. She does not need to anyway. If she needed distance she could jump a far distance away from him. BTW it does speak poorly of your debating skills to just ignore her ability to counter because you think DOA's game mechanics are shitty.
Also don't discredit Ayane's durability. She did take an area leveling ninpo without a scratch. Although I agree that Sagat has her beat in the durability department.
Well you just added the hand to hand stipulation, so you'll have to allow us to adjust our assessments.
In strictly hand to hand, Ayane will be hard pressed to pull wins. She'd be fighting pretty much handicapped on someone she'd need a full arsenal on. Sagat should take the majority.
Although, I guess she could drag the fight to deep waters and hope he drowns and gets eaten by a shark while she teleports away.
Originally posted by StyleTime
Well you just added the hand to hand stipulation, so you'll have to allow us to adjust our assessments.In strictly hand to hand, Ayane will be hard pressed to pull wins. She'd be fighting pretty much handicapped on someone she'd need a full arsenal on. Sagat should take the majority.
Although, I guess she could drag the fight to deep waters and hope he drowns and gets eaten by a shark while she could teleports away.
Unless I said otherwise in the first post, all matches are hand-to-hand. No weapons.
Weapons or no weapons she still loses. She has no real way of supressing a rush down from sagat except by teleporting. She cannot rush down sagat because he would kill her, and she really doesn't have the offense or defense to hang with him. Sure she's faster than him, but Sagat is not slow. The only real offense she has are grapples, and she has to risk getting close for that. Furthermore, if speed and teleportation are her only form of salvation then she's ****ed.