Originally posted by NemeBro
Because killing the captain of the ship that was attacked by the Hydra was necessary, amirite!? As was the war on Athens, TOTALLY necessary. 😬Feeble insect, what you see is what my immaculate speech translates to in your infantile mind.
No, the entire series is overrated filth and Dante is the biggest *** in gaming.
His main goal isn't the killing of innocents, is it? Neither is it the rescuing of them. If they're in his way, he takes them out. If they're not, he leaves them alone 😬. If he killed innocents 'for fun', he'd have killed every single woman who dared sleep with him.
War on Athens? WUT?
No, what I see is what it truly is. I've been gifted with the eyes to see all that there is, and the brain to fully comprehend on the level of 12th-level intellects, all that I see. Attributing poo poo head as immaculate is infantile 😛.
Yeah, you sucks at eet. DMC is an action game, not a platformer (sucks at that), not an RPG, but a straight up "hack n slash' action game. It excels at that, and it's why longtime fans play it.
Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeYou're a pretty boring person then.
I had to reply to this.No, actually, it wouldn't. It would be a fantastic place to live. You'd never be bored. There would always be someone to spend time with, talk to, work with, or you could be alone if you wanted to.
Wrong is wrong and right is right. It is that simple. There is no grey area.
I would classify that as wrong, because one cannot sacrifice what they do not own.
You can do that now.
You could not do that in a world of true order though. Living in such a world comes with a loss of free will and totalitarian tendencies, you would have to have utterly prudish views on things such as sex or the body, living in such a world would be boring.
"Evil" has its flawed points, of course it does, sadism, cruelty, whatever, but it also encompasses nearly all forms of enjoyment.
A world of absolute order would be terrible to live in, think the Puritans, would you REALLY want to be a Puritan, sir? 131
Originally posted by NemeBro
You're a pretty boring person then.You can do that now.
You could not do that in a world of true order though. Living in such a world comes with a loss of free will and totalitarian tendencies, you would have to have utterly prudish views on things such as sex or the body, living in such a world would be boring.
"Evil" has its flawed points, of course it does, sadism, cruelty, whatever, but it also encompasses nearly all forms of enjoyment.
A world of absolute order would be terrible to live in, think the Puritans, would you REALLY want to be a Puritan, sir? 131
Hardly. Because its Right doesn't make it boring. Its a fulfilling life no matter what you want to do. Your scope of Right is far too limited.
You can, but it isn't a world full of Good is it? It'd just get better.
You are now confusing a world of good and peace with forced obedience. Again, your view on Right is FAR too limited.
Good does too, but it lacks the faults.
Puritans. Again, confusing forced obedience with the real thing.
Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Both star overpowered heros, red orbs as currency, green orbs as health, use a combo system, protagonists called something of Sparda, main weapon better than others gained later, have a double jump, etc.
Seriously, that's how you are calling GoW a clone? By looking at trivial stuff such as color of orbs?
Generally, any protagonist of a fantasy/action game is 'overpowered'. We've had loads of 'overpowered' heroes in action games before.
Combo systems were in play long before DMC came about. On a further note, the combo system of GoW is different from DMC3's.
Sparda (a person) vs. Sparta (a place). You're correct, very very similar.
Wait, wut? DMC's starting weapon is better than the others?
a) The later weapons all excel in areas that Rebellion/Force Edge are not good at.
b) Comes down to variety. If you go to any person that can play DMC competently, I assure you that they'll say that Ifrit/Beowulf/Cerberus/A&R etc. are better to use than Rebellion/Force Edge.
DMC may have inspired the GoW series in a way, but that does not make GoW a clone.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
This is one thing I don't understand. Why is being noble becoming a bad thing for protagonists? Nothing beats a true hero.I have my own suspicion as to why, but I want to hear someone else's opinion.
I never really stated that it was a bad thing, did I? I just said it was a nice change to have a protagonist that wasn't noble for once. That nobility is used far quite a lot really
Believe me, I mostly tend to prefer heroes that are noble. It's why I like Superman more than Batman, Sonic more than Shadow (though screw those two, Knux rocks), Cyclops more than Wolverine (I haven't been properly keeping up with X-men though), etc.
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixYou really don't see the difference. 😐 He did not have to kill the captain. He did so anyway, for absolutely no reason at all.
His main goal isn't the killing of innocents, is it? Neither is it the rescuing of them. If they're in his way, he takes them out. If they're not, he leaves them alone 😬. If he killed innocents 'for fun', he'd have killed every single woman who dared sleep with him.
War on Athens? WUT?No, what I see is what it truly is. I've been gifted with the eyes to see all that there is, and the brain to comprehend all that I see. Attributing poo poo head as immaculate is infantile 😛.
Yeah, you sucks at eet. DMC is an action game, not a platformer (sucks at that), not an RPG, but a straight up "hack n slash' action game. It excels at that, and it's why longtime fans play it.
Um, yeah, after he became God of War, he declared war on it, for no reason.
Nah.
Excuse me sir, but I have played the Ninja Gaiden games at their highest difficulties, which make DMC look like easy garbage, I do not "suck" at it. I will admit the hack and slash aspects are decent, the rest is utter garbage, particularly plotline and Dante's character.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I DIDN'T. At ALL. 😐
*slaps* ..... you dare lie to my face..... DP, get my smelting tools!
Meh personally i think living in a world devoid of evil or negative acts wouldn't be bad. At least if you've never know negative acts.
In theory it's all good but..... anyone here watch Angel? series 4, the episode Shiny Happy People..... living in that world..... just no. Hell no.
As i see it, you need contrast. To see how good the light is, you have to embrace the dark. Right?
Originally posted by EvilAngelHe doesn't do anything..... inspiring, he doesn't plan well, it's always basic. He doesn't have any flashy powers or abilities. He just goes around, kills all character in Greek mythology and takes their powers. Kind of like a more naked, angry and bald version of Sylar huh?
That's what makes him a bad-ass (brutal, primitive esque). Like a basal, instinctual creature 😛. Though to be fair, it all comes down to opinion yet again.
And Sylar was awesomeness in season 1. He got pwned by Matt in the latest episode though.
Originally posted by ScreamPasteI was joking.
Puritans are a bad example.Evil is evil, wrong is wrong. Moral ambiguity is a cop-out, and the whole "it's all relative" argument is faulty. It's really not relative, there's a reason every society in the world frowns on rape, murder, and theft.
Also, Kratos is evil.
Right, because obviously, only the most extreme acts of evil are the only evil acts in the world, amirite!? Tell me, if you steal because you have no money and have to feed say a younger, starving sibling, and have killed someone due to having to steal to make a living, but take no enjoyment in the acts, are you an evil person?
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
That's what makes him a bad-ass (brutal, primitive esque). Like a basal, instinctual creature 😛. Though to be fair, it all comes down to opinion yet again.And Sylar was awesomeness in season 1. He got pwned by Matt in the latest episode though.
No, Kenpachi is badass. He's the example of how a brutal animal should be.
You can't pull off a character like that if you want goals and stuff. Kratos is trying to be something more than what he is, that's why he sucks.
Heroes was only really good imo in season 1. After that i got a little bored of it tbh.
Originally posted by MooCowofJusticeYes, it does, while evil admittedly comes with the more obscene parts of it like rape or murder, good does not always come with compassion, in fact, in a world of true order, such things would be discarded from said world.
Hardly. Because its Right doesn't make it boring. Its a fulfilling life no matter what you want to do. Your scope of Right is far too limited.You can, but it isn't a world full of Good is it? It'd just get better.
You are now confusing a world of good and peace with forced obedience. Again, your view on Right is FAR too limited.
Good does too, but it lacks the faults.
Puritans. Again, confusing forced obedience with the real thing.
Why? Because everyone is so good and pure, and lacts any negative traits? Because everyone is a Gary Stu? Yeah, how about no? A world without flaw is a flawed world in of itself.
I am talking about a world of PURE good, nothing else but goodness, purity, order, whatever you call it. Due to this, everyone would be the same, there would be little to differentiate one person from another, the best thing about humanity is the fact that it HAS negative flaws, to deny this is to live in an overtly optimistic, ridiculous world.
Being flawless by itself is a flaw, in terms of speaking of people or the world.
Was joking.
Right, because obviously, only the most extreme acts of evil are the only evil acts in the world, amirite!? Tell me, if you steal because you have no money and have to feed say a younger, starving sibling, and have killed someone due to having to steal to make a living, but take no enjoyment in the acts, are you an evil person?
In the scenario above, if I killed someone so I could steal from them, then yes, I am evil.
Originally posted by EvilAngelSo in order to pull off an animalistic badass combatant, you have to be an idiot wandering through life aimlessly? Lawl.
No, Kenpachi is badass. He's the example of how a brutal animal should be.You can't pull off a character like that if you want goals and stuff. Kratos is trying to be something more than what he is, that's why he sucks.
Heroes was only really good imo in season 1. After that i got a little bored of it tbh.
Originally posted by NemeBro
So in order to pull off an animalistic badass combatant, you have to be an idiot wandering through life aimlessly? Lawl.
Not exactly though i see i didn't explain it very well.
In order to pull off an 'animalistic badass', you need to actually be badass. Meaning, no being afraid of death, no seeking power, no revenge for things, nothing that would imply you really care for others. etc.
Just look at Kenpachi and learn 😬
Originally posted by ScreamPasteNo, they are not. Semantics shemantics. Killing is wrong no matter why you do it? So if a father kills a home invader who was entering his daughter's room, armed, it was wrong? Is he evil?
Negative, but they're a good starting point. Also, you're confusing killing with murder, and even so, killing is one of those things that's wrong no matter why you do it.In the scenario above, if I killed someone so I could steal from them, then yes, I am evil.
Really? So you should just let you and your younger sibling, who cannot provide for themself and has done nothing wrong, die? It is called survival, in the grand scope of things it is little different than killing for food.