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DMC... why can't capcom make the level designs more... immersed rather than choppy weak ones that are found mostly in jrpgs?

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Clearly you do not know what a villain is ๐Ÿ˜.

Him being anti-heroic is a nice change. Far too many protagonists these days are noble. Having a character that will do whatever it takes to gain his revenge just makes him more of a bad-ass. Besides, such badassery fits perfectly for feel of the Blades of Chaos/Athena.

Words I wouldn't expect to hear from an immaculate being. You've got a serious superiority complex ๐Ÿ˜›.

Kratos does not simply do what he must, he needlessly kills innocents, making him more like a villain protagonist, though as I said before, he is better than the Gods.

A truly immaculate entity such as myself does not concern himself with how his vocabulary is viewed by lesser creatures such as yourself, so be quiet you doodoo brain.

Also, DMC DOES suck.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
DMC really does suck. One of Capcom's rarest disappointments.

Yet it revolutionized action games and brought the existance of clones like God of War.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Yet it revolutionized action games and brought the existance of clones like God of War.

God of War made it look better. The student surpassed the teacher.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Kratos does not simply do what he must, he needlessly kills innocents, making him more like a villain protagonist, though as I said before, he is better than the Gods.

A truly immaculate entity such as myself does not concern himself with how his vocabulary is viewed by lesser creatures such as yourself, so be quiet you doodoo brain.

Also, DMC DOES suck.

He's more of an Anti hero than he is a villain ๐Ÿ˜ฌ. He has no qualms about killing people, but he does not go out of his way to do so.

Immaculate entities would also know that using the vocabulary of lesser creatures, would mean that they themselves are not immaculate.

DMC 2 does. DMC4 might suck. The other 2 do not. Not if you suck immensely at the game, or do not recognize a good action game when you play one.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Yet it revolutionized action games and brought the existance of clones like God of War.
Originally posted by Nemesis X
God of War made it look better. The student surpassed the teacher.

a) God of War is no clone of DMC.

b) God of War holds no candle to DMC 3 when it comes to Combat depth. Saying otherwise only means that you do not know how to truly play the latter.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He's more of an Anti hero than he is a villain ๐Ÿ˜ฌ. He has no qualms about killing people, but he does not go out of his way to do so.

Immaculate entities would also know that using the vocabulary of lesser creatures, would mean that they themselves are not immaculate.

DMC 2 does. DMC4 might suck. The other 2 do not. Not if you suck immensely at the game, or do not recognize a good action game when you play one.

Because killing the captain of the ship that was attacked by the Hydra was necessary, amirite!? As was the war on Athens, TOTALLY necessary. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

Feeble insect, what you see is what my immaculate speech translates to in your infantile mind.

No, the entire series is overrated filth and Dante is the biggest *** in gaming.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
God of War made it look better. The student surpassed the teacher.

DMC2 and 4, yeah.
DMC1 maybe
DMC3? To each their own. I prefer its combos and boss fights over anything from GOW 1 and 2.

I heard Bayonetta kicks DMC3's ass and all from DMC fans.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
a) God of War is no clone of DMC.

Both star overpowered heros, red orbs as currency, green orbs as health, use a combo system, protagonists called something of Sparda, main weapon better than others gained later, have a double jump, etc.

Originally posted by NemeBro
True, you could be like Nemesis X, but it is good to admit you are not and likely never will be on the level of such an immaculate being as I. 131

Nemesis X is a Kratos fan ermm I'm uncomfortable in anyway being associated with that... red, bold... thing

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
I don't see the big deal with KH1 Sephiroth. I can beat him multiple times in a row without losing. KH2 Sephiroth is harder.

Well let's put it like this.

In KH two, your character is allot more mobile, if you've touched your forms, then you'll probably have special abilities from those too. Most people have them maxxed out which means allot of good abilities from those.

Once you have all of those, you can beat him as low as level 40. I mean, you'll always find some braggart that can use a mod to make himself level 1, and he'll still win, or whatever, but you're average player can still beat Sephiroth pretty low, like 50-60. With no real need of any special abilities, weapons or items.

KH one Sephiroth, you have barely any of the useful abilities you get in 2, and Sora is much slower. Plus you've no reaction commands to do some of the harder things for you.

Look up a guide on KH1 Sephiroth, they'll all say the same stuff, get to atleast level 80, get the ultimate Keyblade, ribbon, certain abilities, and grind until all his attacks are memorised, then hope for the best.

To be competely honest, I struggle to believe anyone finds KH2 Sephiroth Harder, i always felt he was dissapointing. I beat him on my 4th ever try. I don't even want to know how many times i failed on Sephiroth from 1

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Nemesis X is a Kratos fan ermm I'm uncomfortable in anyway being associated with that... red, bold... [i]thing[/i

Red bold thing? That's an awesome monster slaying bad ass you're talking about.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Nemesis X is a Kratos fan ermm I'm uncomfortable in anyway being associated with that... red, bold... thing
*Bald

๐Ÿ˜›

Also, KH2 Sephiroth is much easier, I beat him at like level 44...Second try. First try I got him to his second-to-last bar.

First time I fought Sephiroth in KH1, he killed me in two hits...At level 50. ๐Ÿ˜

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Look up a guide on KH1 Sephiroth, they'll all say the same stuff, get to atleast level 80, get the ultimate Keyblade, ribbon, certain abilities, and grind until all his attacks are memorised, then hope for the best.

I've slaughtered KH1 Sephiroth 3 times in a row around lv. 70. I face KH2 Sephiroth at slightly higher levels and with most of my drives maxed and he manages to kick my ass

Then you REALLY suck. ๐Ÿ˜

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Him being anti-heroic is a nice change. Far too many protagonists these days are noble. Having a character that will do whatever it takes to gain his revenge just makes him more of a bad-ass. Besides, such badassery fits perfectly for feel of the Blades of Chaos/Athena.

This is one thing I don't understand. Why is being noble becoming a bad thing for protagonists? Nothing beats a true hero.

I have my own suspicion as to why, but I want to hear someone else's opinion.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
This is one thing I don't understand. Why is being noble becoming a bad thing for protagonists? Nothing beats a true hero.

I have my own suspicion as to why, but I want to hear someone else's opinion.

If something is used enough times it gets boring.

The true hero is unrealistic in of itself, but yeah, it's also boring.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
This is one thing I don't understand. Why is being noble becoming a bad thing for protagonists? Nothing beats a true hero.

I have my own suspicion as to why, but I want to hear someone else's opinion.

Moral ambiguity

Some people say they see things in shades of grey morally. That what's wrong or evil for one person may be ok for another.

Personally I believe that everything is either wrong or it's right. However because we are human we have to place things in shades of grey because as much as we want to be the good guy, none of us will ever live up to that standard. So we invent these shades of grey as a justification for any "little" wrong doing.

Or maybe it's just nice to have a protagonist who's a normal guy with vices and problems and stuff. (Kratos DOES NOT fit into that category)

Edit: Most heroes already have a vice but I just think that some people want them to be really flawed or messed up. Someone to better fit their own perception or even reality.

Originally posted by Cyner
Moral ambiguity

Some people say they see things in shades of grey morally. That what's wrong or evil for one person may be ok for another.

Personally I believe that everything is either wrong or it's right. However because we are human we have to place things in shades of grey because as much as we want to be the good guy, none of us will ever live up to that standard. So we invent these shades of grey as a justification for any "little" wrong doing.

Or maybe it's just nice to have a protagonist who's a normal guy with vices and problems ands stuff. (Kratos DOES NOT fit into that category)

O RLY?

You do realise a world entirely comprised of good and order would be...Shall we say, boring, dull, oppressive, fail, and AIDS? Define wrong and right please. Evil is, for lack of better phrasing, a necessary evil. "Wrong" acts are required to balance out the "right," and thus are not wrong or right at all, merely opposing sides of a spectrum, with both being required, order and chaos are both right, in the right amounts. Shades of grey are also a truth. If one has to sacrifice lives, of say hundreds, to save thousands, what would you classify that act as?

Kratos is a pretty nice guy considering the world he lives in to be honest...

I figure its part of the emo craze that is gripping popular culture. "Oh hell yeah, he's evil, dresses in all black and wears mascara. HES A BADASS! The only way this guy could be more badass is if someone put some clips of him to Three Days Grace!"

I don't see how a hero character could ever get boring because none of them are the same character. Unless you're just tired of saving the world and doing good deeds.

Originally posted by NemeBro
O RLY?

You do realise a world entirely comprised of good and order would be...Shall we say, boring, dull, oppressive, fail, and AIDS? Define wrong and right please. Evil is, for lack of better phrasing, a necessary evil. "Wrong" acts are required to balance out the "right," and thus are not wrong or right at all, merely opposing sides of a spectrum, with both being required, order and chaos are both right, in the right amounts. Shades of grey are also a truth. If one has to sacrifice lives, of say hundreds, to save thousands, what would you classify that act as?

I had to reply to this.

No, actually, it wouldn't. It would be a fantastic place to live. You'd never be bored. There would always be someone to spend time with, talk to, work with, or you could be alone if you wanted to.

Wrong is wrong and right is right. It is that simple. There is no grey area.

I would classify that as wrong, because one cannot sacrifice what they do not own.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Red bold thing? That's an awesome monster slaying bad ass you're talking about.

Oh really? I didn't notice. Not the awesome part at least.

Kratos lacks tactic, subtlety and restrain. All i see him as is a barbarian with a lust for power. Sorry, but it bores me.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Then you REALLY suck. ๐Ÿ˜

Sorry, but he's right. If you have all of those things and you're still getting whopped.... well you're doing something SERIOUSLY wrong.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
This is one thing I don't understand. Why is being noble becoming a bad thing for protagonists? Nothing beats a true hero.

I have my own suspicion as to why, but I want to hear someone else's opinion.

Sometimes i like a break, I'll say that much.

Anti-heroes can be fun. For example i dare anyone here to tell me they didn't enjoy seeing Spiderman, in the 3rd movie be an ass at least a little..... told you.

But Kratos is just boring. He's got strength, and he likes to shout. He manhandles monsters and kills them in the most brutal ways possible.

He doesn't do anything..... inspiring, he doesn't plan well, it's always basic. He doesn't have any flashy powers or abilities. He just goes around, kills all character in Greek mythology and takes their powers. Kind of like a more naked, angry and bald version of Sylar huh?