Originally posted by Q'Anilia
Besides, when it come to gay people, I have an easier time to relate and for that reason care more about it.
well, why is it okay to be biased toward gays, but anyone who is biased against them or biased toward a group that excludes them is generally talked about in a negative light? doesnt that seem hypocritical?
Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
well, why is it okay to be biased toward gays, but anyone who is biased against them or biased toward a group that excludes them is generally talked about in a negative light? doesnt that seem hypocritical?
Having an easier time to relate doesn't make me bias, since I'm technically not gay myself. With that said, gay people are individuals who think and act on their own accord.
To generalize them according to some terrible misconceptions and utter ignorance and to speak of gay people as if it's a bad thing is entirely different from enforcing the defense of them, as I have done on this topic.
I don't like gay people more or less than others, just like how I don't like it when people list a good number of characteristics and say "These are signs of you being gay". Being biased against them is to not give an individual a chance, while being biased for them is giving the individual a chance to shine. Opposing gay people generally remove their right to speak for themselves, while being for them open they to prove to everyone else that they are individuals and should be defined as such rather than as gay people.
Reading your "point" through, it looks to me like you didn't really think it through. It's not hypocritical of me to oppose putting gay people in a negative light, just because I happen to be all for it.
It would be the same as if someone would say she doesn't like fat people, she should go without food, because food makes you fat. Just because I'm for gay, doesn't mean I'm hypocritical when I say others shouldn't oppose the state of being gay, or claim that being gay is a bad thing.
Originally posted by LLLLLink
I think that they deserve the same treatment others get.Christians have haters, gangsters have haters, and gays now and forever will have haters.
To demand that people not hate them is to take away their freedom of choice, which is the right of all sentient beings 😛
You have all the right in the world to dislike them (I've not said otherwise), but it is my right to suggest that you don't, since homosexuals, just like Christians are individuals and should be treated as such.
The fact that you compare Christians and homosexuals to Gangsters leaves me befuddled, though. I'm not sure if I should feel sorry for your limited comprehension of the matter at hand, or if I should try explain to you how gangsters shouldn't be compared to Christians and homosexuals.
Wow, you really are being closed minded, you know?
It's my right as a living creature to dislike gay people because of their actions and personality.
Just as you might be offended at the actions of a thief or a pedophile even though those actions weren't directed at you, I am offended at the actions of a sodomite.
Personally, I think that they are selfish people denying the natural order of things for their own pleasure. Also, they appearantly are haters of the human race's expansion, because homosexuality brings no increase to the cause of the human race.
If 30% of the world were strictly gay, what would happen to world's population 100 years from now?
Its a choice that gay people make. Despite what the world and every one else tries to make you believe, it is a choice. It is not natural for one gender to want to be married or be sexually attracted to the same gender. The animal kingdom does not do it, they do what is natural. Man in his wickedness has chosen to have un-natural affection. So therefore it being a choice, they have to understand certain things go with that choice. Disease, rejection, being made fun of are just a few. Its their choice.
Originally posted by Maester_yoda
Its a choice that gay people make. Despite what the world and every one else tries to make you believe, it is a choice. It is not natural for one gender to want to be married or be sexually attracted to the same gender. The animal kingdom does not do it, they do what is natural. Man in his wickedness has chosen to have un-natural affection. So therefore it being a choice, they have to understand certain things go with that choice. Disease, rejection, being made fun of are just a few. Its their choice.
How is doing something un-natural wicked?
We can decide/learn to ignore instincts, natural emotions or actions/decisions that would be considered natural because we are arguably far more intelligent than animals and can look beyond being animals.
Originally posted by Burning thought
How is doing something un-natural wicked?We can decide/learn to ignore instincts, natural emotions or actions/decisions that would be considered natural because we are arguably far more intelligent than animals and can look beyond being animals.
tell me. how can we know anything is right or wrong, how can we tell the difference?
i believe the bible. the KJV. i know right and wrong because the one who created me and you and everything tells me what is right and wrong in His Word
So i ask you, how can you tell what is right and wrong?
Originally posted by Maester_yoda
tell me. how can we know anything is right or wrong, how can we tell the difference?i believe the bible. the KJV. i know right and wrong because the one who created me and you and everything tells me what is right and wrong in His Word
So i ask you, how can you tell what is right and wrong?
I know right and wrong because I was tought what they were by my parents, the world around me as I grew up and have opinions of my own from my own knowledge to determine what is right or wrong.
I dont belive the bible, religion, social taboo, discrimination or that the Government are always fair or correct , to some extent I also disagree with the law.
Originally posted by Maester_yoda
where did your parents learn right and wrong? where did your imagination come from? where did man come from? Evolution has no answer to what is right and wrong because it will always be someones opinion. But i can definitely say i know right and wrong because the Creator made rules and laws.
Not religion....society gives you the building blocks of what right and wrong is, its up to us through out years of life and what we have seen to determine what is right and wrong, at the end of the day there is no "right" or "wrong" in truth, its just a lot of opinions. Ofc its a very very well recieved and populour "wrong" to kill, rape, murder etc. People do not get that from a book, its what they make up (relative because imo they also made the bible)
Your turning this into a religious discussion. In answer to your reply, in my opinion your wrong, because the creators of your creator were some very clever men. The creator can also be wrong even if one did exist assuming I was open minded to religion.
Religion is not the be-all end-all of morality, either. A lot of good guidelines for behavior may be in the book, but cultures with no contact with Judeo-Christian principles have shown to have understanding of the same basic moral law.
Morality is a complex matter all on its own. Religion, in which every side is biased, doesn't need to complicate things further.