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Originally posted by General Kaliero
WPA2 security. DS can only do WEP.
Originally posted by The Scenario
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Originally posted by General Kalieroso you disagree with the rating system and the use of the word mature itself. Guess what rating gow 3 got? Mature. Now guess what twilight princess got? Teen.
Once again, you are missing the point entirely. Just because you wouldn't allow a child to play a game does not make it mature. BMX XXX is a perfect example. Its whole shtick is doing well enough in the game to unlock soft-core porn. Would I let a kid play, no, but the content of the game is merely adult, not mature.Not for kids =/= mature.
I think what you are having trouble understanding is the exact meaning of mature here. This is maturity in the sense of being responsible, having wisdom from experience, being thoughtful or even sophisticated. The opposite of the immature, boundary-testing, sexually-controlled and impulse-following teen.
Stories like Zelda's demonstrate a great level of maturity with various darker elements that give adults just as much a sense of urgency and thrill as kids get from the "save the princess" goal.
Stories like GoW, with its focus on brutality, revenge, gore and sex, demonstrate a level of immaturity, directly appealing to teenagers still exploring their libido and reveling in the violence because they'd never be allowed if their parents knew what they were doing. It ties into the rebelliousness and desire to be seen as an adult that is the core of teenagers going through puberty.
My point is proven by the ratings of the games themselves. Gow is completely different than zelda and for the reasons it is zelda will never ever approach it in my mind as being anywhere near as graphic as gow.
Originally posted by PeachI suggest you actually take a look at the rating itself and quit arguing simply because you like zelda. you ignoring game ratings because you really like zelda is your problem not my own. Teen rating for zelda while mature rating for gow. I don't need to actually debate anything as the rating appropriate for the game is mature which isn't the case for zelda.
...wow. The point flew so far over your head that air traffic control is concerned.Yes, Zelda is designed for older audiences. It's also designed for younger audiences at the same time.
GoW is setting absolutely no bar other than "how much gratuitous violence can be crammed into a game".
So, let's try this again. The ONLY time "Mature" means "Violence, gore, and sex" is on an ESRB label.
GK pretty much covered the rest, so I suggest you invest in a dictionary.
Originally posted by FinalAnswerWhat rating did it get?
Hai.Lion King contains blatant Nazism.
It's hardly for chiljun. 😉
Originally posted by quanchi112
so you disagree with the rating system and the use of the word mature itself. Guess what rating gow 3 got? Mature. Now guess what twilight princess got? Teen.
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jspMy point is proven by the ratings of the games themselves. Gow is completely different than zelda and for the reasons it is zelda will never ever approach it in my mind as being anywhere near as graphic as gow.
I suggest you actually take a look at the rating itself and quit arguing simply because you like zelda. you ignoring game ratings because you really like zelda is your problem not my own. Teen rating for zelda while mature rating for gow. I don't need to actually debate anything as the rating appropriate for the game is mature which isn't the case for zelda.
What rating did it get?
You really do miss their point don't you 😐
Originally posted by quanchi112
so you disagree with the rating system and the use of the word mature itself. Guess what rating gow 3 got? Mature. Now guess what twilight princess got? Teen.
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jspMy point is proven by the ratings of the games themselves. Gow is completely different than zelda and for the reasons it is zelda will never ever approach it in my mind as being anywhere near as graphic as gow.
I suggest you actually take a look at the rating itself and quit arguing simply because you like zelda. you ignoring game ratings because you really like zelda is your problem not my own. Teen rating for zelda while mature rating for gow. I don't need to actually debate anything as the rating appropriate for the game is mature which isn't the case for zelda.
What rating did it get?
Let me explain.
No, there is too much. Let me sum up.
I know more about how the ESRB works than pretty much anyone here. A HUGE portion of my job involves enforcing it.
An M-rating on a game DOES NOT MEAN IT IS ACTUALLY MATURE, IT JUST CONSISTS OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT APPROPRIATE FOR MINORS. It has nothing to do with the plot or anything like that, simply that the gameplay itself is considered too violent, gory, or sexual for minors. That is it. It's the same as an R-rated movie. It's considered restricted content.
How about you stop arguing until you actually comprehend the damn argument? Seriously, you've missed the point so many times now that I have to really wonder.
Originally posted by quanchi112
so you disagree with the rating system and the use of the word mature itself. Guess what rating gow 3 got? Mature. Now guess what twilight princess got? Teen.
http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jspMy point is proven by the ratings of the games themselves. Gow is completely different than zelda and for the reasons it is zelda will never ever approach it in my mind as being anywhere near as graphic as gow.
I suggest you actually take a look at the rating itself and quit arguing simply because you like zelda. you ignoring game ratings because you really like zelda is your problem not my own. Teen rating for zelda while mature rating for gow. I don't need to actually debate anything as the rating appropriate for the game is mature which isn't the case for zelda.
What rating did it get?
Indeed, the use of the adjective "Mature" is a quirk of the ESRB. PEGI's "Mature"-level rating is simply 16. CERO uses an A-D scale, where D is equivalent to "M", and then Z equivalent to AO. Hell, the OFLC in New Zealand uses "Mature" to designate games recommended for 10 and up!
One rating board's use of a term does not set its definition. Do not be so foolish.
Originally posted by FinalAnswerWhat kids wouldl possibly be scared by this movie or learn anything about the nazi's from watching lion king?
G, but that is only because the rating system is run by Nazis themselves.
Originally posted by SpadeKingI get their point it's wrong. I get that they think they are right but when the ratings match up and use the actual word I have used and they ignore it it's their problem not my own.
You really do miss their point don't you 😐
Originally posted by quanchi112
What kids wouldl possibly be scared by this movie or learn anything about the nazi's from watching lion king?I get their point it's wrong. I get that they think they are right but when the ratings match up and use the actual word I have used and they ignore it it's their problem not my own.
Originally posted by General Kaliero
palm
Once again you have missed the point. The ESRB (which is not an official or required entity, by the way) merely uses "Mature" to differentiate 17+ from the more restrictive "Adults Only" rating, the way "R" differentiates from "X."Indeed, the use of the adjective "Mature" is a quirk of the ESRB. PEGI's "Mature"-level rating is simply 16. CERO uses an A-D scale, where D is equivalent to "M", and then Z equivalent to AO. Hell, the OFLC in New Zealand uses "Mature" to designate games recommended for 10 and up!
One rating board's use of a term does not set its definition. Do not be so foolish.
Originally posted by PeachYeah telling me I missed the point when the word mature on a rating means anything but mature. Handling concepts such as gore, sexual content, et.c has to do with maturity itself. That's why 7 year olds shouldn't play these games like gow because generally on average they aren't mature enough to handle them on their age.
Let me explain.No, there is too much. Let me sum up.
I know more about how the ESRB works than pretty much anyone here. A HUGE portion of my job involves enforcing it.
An M-rating on a game DOES NOT MEAN IT IS ACTUALLY MATURE, IT JUST CONSISTS OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT APPROPRIATE FOR MINORS. It has nothing to do with the plot or anything like that, simply that the gameplay itself is considered too violent, gory, or sexual for minors. That is it. It's the same as an R-rated movie. It's considered restricted content.
How about you stop arguing until you actually comprehend the damn argument? Seriously, you've missed the point so many times now that I have to really wonder.
Originally posted by General KalieroSo you're saying they use words they don't mean. Please, please, please tell me you aren't serious. We say it's a mature rating but we don't really mean the word mature, right?
palm
Once again you have missed the point. The ESRB (which is not an official or required entity, by the way) merely uses "Mature" to differentiate 17+ from the more restrictive "Adults Only" rating, the way "R" differentiates from "X."Indeed, the use of the adjective "Mature" is a quirk of the ESRB. PEGI's "Mature"-level rating is simply 16. CERO uses an A-D scale, where D is equivalent to "M", and then Z equivalent to AO. Hell, the OFLC in New Zealand uses "Mature" to designate games recommended for 10 and up!
One rating board's use of a term does not set its definition. Do not be so foolish.